View Full Version : Has 70-200 f/4L always been beige?
lancea
20th of May 2005 (Fri), 23:34
Just out of curiousity and of no practical use at all ...
While deciding whether to order a 70-200 I came across a LOT of threads talking about why this (and other L lenses) were white. When my 70-200 arrived early this month I was pleasantly surprised to find that it wasn't white at all. Rather it's more of a beige. Very stylish and completely inoffensive.
I did a forum search and only found one thread that talks about this. Were these lenses every truely white? When I look at earlier reviews (e.g. http://www.slo-foto.net/reviews-56.html) it certainly does look whiter than white. It's even white on the official Canon page at http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=150&modelid=7345. But the current B&H web photos clearly show that none of the 70-200 lenses are white. Given all the amusing theories about why the L lenses are white, is this Canon's attempt to kill an urban legend? :)
willg
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 00:43
mine isn't white
tim
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 01:57
Neither's my F2.8, maybe someone has some white ballance issues ;)
Jopox
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 01:59
Mine isn't white either...:)
lancea
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 02:27
Hmm. Maybe it's just that the word "beige" is a synonymous with "mediocre". Yes Tim - maybe it is just a case of white balance - but you'd think Canon's shot would have been more accurate. Someone get them some Pringles :)
Ah well, at least it was a good thing that it wasn't what I expected. Thanks for your responses guys.
I Simonius
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 03:59
The very question I asked too
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=71587
lancea
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 04:22
Great minds think alike? :) Looks like you solved the puzzle. Funny. I did a Forum Search with "70-200 beige" and some variations, but didn't find your thread. Nice one anyone, thanks. And as for someone asking what the point of the thread is - well, let's not get started on all the threads about the red rings ... :rolleyes:
xuxu1
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 05:57
Now come on.....
Everybody knows that NEW Canon L lenses (except for the black ones) are all white! :lol: :lol: :lol:
The one you got must have been used and laying in the sun for some time already (some kind of a sun tan maybe?). :lol: :lol: :lol:
Funny when i got my new EF100-400 L IS, guess what...
It was´nt white either !!! :cool: :oops:
ED
condyk
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 06:16
there are two production lines for the Canon L lenses in Japan ... for smoking and non-smoking assembly workers.
blue_max
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 06:34
...and those that wash their hands after visiting the restroom and those...
Graham
I Simonius
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 06:38
Now come on.....
Everybody knows that NEW Canon L lenses (except for the black ones) are all white! :lol: :lol: :lol:
The one you got must have been used and laying in the sun for some time already (some kind of a sun tan maybe?). :lol: :lol: :lol:
Funny when i got my new EF100-400 L IS, guess what...
It was´nt white either !!! :cool: :oops:
ED
Check your camera - are you sure it's black?
Would you object if it wasn't?
pcasciola
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 07:01
Yes, they are all off-white/beige/cream colored. I started a similar thread before I purchased my first L lens, because every other lens looked white on B&H's site except for the one I was buying, so I thought I was buying the gray version or something. :rolleyes:
Here's the photo on B&H for the 300/4L and in actuality it's just about the same color as my 70-200/2.8L.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/items/129188.jpg
I Simonius
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 07:14
Yes, they are all off-white/beige/cream colored. I started a similar thread before I purchased my first L lens, because every other lens looked white on B&H's site except for the one I was buying, so I thought I was buying the gray version or something. :rolleyes:
Here's the photo on B&H for the 300/4L and in actuality it's just about the same color as my 70-200/2.8L.
snip
That is a much more honest representation than the pure white lenses on canon's site!
Cadwell
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 07:26
It's because most photographers are male. Men think in primary and secondary colours and the major shades. Red, green, blue, black, white, grey I can understand. "Beige" isn't part of my vocabulary. Neither are all those other colours that only seem to exist for women like “amethyst”, “fuchsia”, “taupe” or “mauve”. I have absolutely no idea what those colours are.... never have known and am happy NOT knowing.
So... my big "L"s are lighter than black, are not obviously blue or green therefore they must be WHITE! Simple :rolleyes:
:p :p :p :p :p :p ;)
PhotosGuy
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 07:30
I'm holding out for flourescent orange! ;-)
I Simonius
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 08:14
It's because most photographers are male. Men think in primary and secondary colours and the major shades. Red, green, blue, black, white, grey I can understand. "Beige" isn't part of my vocabulary. Neither are all those other colours that only seem to exist for women like “amethyst”, “fuchsia”, “taupe” or “mauve”. I have absolutely no idea what those colours are.... never have known and am happy NOT knowing.
So... my big "L"s are lighter than black, are not obviously blue or green therefore they must be WHITE! Simple :rolleyes:
:p :p :p :p :p :p ;)
yeah right and males only make B+W or primary colour pics :rolleyes:
Cadwell
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 08:35
yeah right and males only make B+W or primary colour pics :rolleyes:
No... cameras take pictures... they're gender neutral (unless of course you're French?)
I Simonius
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 09:11
No... cameras take pictures... they're gender neutral (unless of course you're French?)
I expect that's funny but I don't get it....... :confused: :confused:
lost
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 09:54
I believe he is making a reference to the french language. I could be wrong.
Persian-Rice
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 11:08
Most people don't balance properly, I notice that pictures are always wrong.
It has a touch of beige, mixed with grey. If anything, I would call it an off grey colour.
I Simonius
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 12:05
Most people don't balance properly, I notice that pictures are always wrong.
It has a touch of beige, mixed with grey. If anything, I would call it an off grey colour.
The reason I posted this:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=71587
is so people could compare the lens colour to the well known reference points either side of it i.e. 18% grey cards and the WHITE apple software pocket, illuminated by daylight
Compare that to this :
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=150&modelid=7345
and tell me its the same colour, just a question of balance
DocFrankenstein
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 12:09
I expect that's funny but I don't get it....... :confused: :confused:
Females have more color photo receptors on their retinas and better developed parts of the brain responsible for recognition of those colors.
So they are able to differentiate between hues much better then males. A guy sees 10 shades of blue... they're all just "blue" to him. When a girl sees 10 shades of blue, it's 10 separate colors.
Persian-Rice
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 12:25
Females have more color photo receptors on their retinas and better developed parts of the brain responsible for recognition of those colors.
So they are able to differentiate between hues much better then males. A guy sees 10 shades of blue... they're all just "blue" to him. When a girl sees 10 shades of blue, it's 10 separate colors.
That is is so unfair. First they get breasts now this?
Persian-Rice
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 12:29
Ya B&h makes them look brown, Canon white, real thing is in the middle. You would think they would properly balance the pictures, especially the ones on the EOS webpage. On the other hand, the whit'ish tone would fit in alot better on the Canon page then the real color, but that's somewhat misrepresenting it, even though it doesn't matter to me.
lost
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 12:39
I think white is the correct description. Aside from being male the reason I think this is that all other lenses are black. It is just to logical to consider the somewhat white lenses WHITE.
lancea
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 16:31
Apparently always a popular subject anyway. So I'm happy now and sure that if I buy a white car it won't ever be made by Canon. ;)
As for the suggestions, I'm sure condyk has the correct reason. The Japanese are prolific smokers, so that explains why truely white lenses are either unobtainable or extremely rare. As for your suggestion blue_max :shock: - I don't even want to think about it.
Thanks again for all the info - and so far as I can ascertain (dictionaries sometimes being confusing) the French words for "telephoto lens" and "camera" are masculine, but "photography" is femine. Go figure. :confused:
DocFrankenstein
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 16:46
Thanks again for all the info - and so far as I can ascertain (dictionaries sometimes being confusing) the French words for "telephoto lens" and "camera" are masculine, but "photography" is femine. Go figure. :confused:
It's not logical... it's an ethical interpretation.
IE in russian, the lens is masculine, camera is feminine and photography is neutral.
Matt_P
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 19:54
I prefer to think of my 70-200 F4L as being off-white. That's about as far as I go ;)
JulianL
21st of May 2005 (Sat), 20:27
You can make anything look white in post processing.
PhotosGuy
22nd of May 2005 (Sun), 18:18
So they are able to differentiate between hues much better then males. A guy sees 10 shades of blue... they're all just "blue" to him. When a girl sees 10 shades of blue, it's 10 separate colors.
Trivia: They're engineered to find plants. Guys are engineered to see motion (prey). ;)
Persian-Rice: :D:D:D
wibbly
23rd of May 2005 (Mon), 13:29
I see it now. Clip on repaceable covers. Then like mobile phones, you can have any colour/pattern you like...
J
PhotosGuy
23rd of May 2005 (Mon), 15:57
Clip on repaceable covers. White ones will cost more! ;-)
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