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fotoworx
16th of September 2009 (Wed), 16:42
LOL I love hanging out here. I've learnt so much.
Does anyone else ever feel that it's really Canon Digital GearHead Forums and not Canon Digital Photography Forums ?
It's fun seeing the different models and IQ etc being discussed in minute detail. Some take it to almost religious levels.
The best thing about Canon Digital Camera's is they all take a good picture.
Don't sweat what you don't have. Everything we have today is going to be "obsolete" way wayyyyy before the glass ever is.
Photographer, GearHead or both? I'm unashamedly both. I love technology, but I've learnt that it costs a lot to be at the bleeding edge of it all the time.
I'm going to try to be happy with the gear I've got and try to improve my photography skills which sadly I must say are in no way worthy of the gear I already own, let alone the gear I lust over.
Is there a pill for the disease Canonitiss?
birdfromboat
16th of September 2009 (Wed), 17:09
I am constantly distracted by shiny metal objects. My name is Birdfromboat and I am a gear lustaholic. This hobby is my midlife Harley Davidson. Camera gear is safer, easier to store, and almost as good at keeping its value, but showing up with a 5d and a 24-70 isn't going to attract the same kind of attention.
I am definitely a photographer/gearhead/both, also unashamedly. I try to ask myself everyday- what did you learn about the art today?
fotoworx
16th of September 2009 (Wed), 17:15
I am constantly distracted by shiny metal objects. My name is Birdfromboat and I am a gear lustaholic. This hobby is my midlife Harley Davidson. Camera gear is safer, easier to store, and almost as good at keeping its value, but showing up with a 5d and a 24-70 isn't going to attract the same kind of attention.
I am definitely a photographer/gearhead/both, also unashamedly. I try to ask myself everyday- what did you learn about the art today?
LOL bw!
My wife reckons my hobby has been cheaper so far than a mid life crisis red convertable.........the so far part is correct :)
nphsbuckeye
16th of September 2009 (Wed), 20:13
I love this site for info on gear associated with photography. I wish there were more of an emphasis on the photography part though. I don't frequent the share forums too much because although there is a lot of good art, I don't see too much critique - if anything, the photographers get pissy when you say something to the contrary. Although my critiques in my art classes weren't too productive, we did spent more time talking about the intent and composition of the picture instead of what was taken; unlike here where, at times, people are more interested in using their gear than the picture part.
Depth
16th of September 2009 (Wed), 20:16
I can take pictures with it?
Why hasn't anyone ever told me of such a thing!?
fotoworx
16th of September 2009 (Wed), 20:23
I can take pictures with it?
Why hasn't anyone ever told me of such a thing!?
Sshhhhh OMG man.....don't let THAT secret out !!!!
;)
fly my pretties
16th of September 2009 (Wed), 21:26
You have a lot of gear. I went through your post history and all I could find in the scores of threads you've made was a picture of some pond weed and a shot of a pelican.
It shouldn't, and I wish it didn't, but it does annoy me. You have every right to spend your money the way you want, that is your free and undeniable right, but I just can't help letting it irritate me.
I just get the feeling that people with as much gear as you don't want to be photographers, they want to look like photographers. Like, your website is literally just a gear list. You registered a domain name and purchased hosting just to have a gear list? That's nothing more than an out-and-out boast. When you spend that much time letting people know what gear you have, I question your motives, and wonder if it's as important that everyone knows you own as it is actually owning it.
Whatever makes you happy, but it was only in may you were asking how to put a border around your images, yet you own over $2000 worth of digital editing software. Why buy it if you don't know how to use it?
As someone who lives and breathes photography, someone who scours the web looking for the best possible pictures and then saving them to open in photoshop to look at the colour profiles, exif data, drawing arrows to work out light sources and figure out processing techniques to improve my own photographic ability with what limited equipment I have, immitators like you just annoy me.
Like I say, you shouldn't, but you do. I should be better than that, but I'm not.
You even made an IDENTICAL thread to this less than three months ago.
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=704950
fotoworx
16th of September 2009 (Wed), 21:39
You have a lot of gear. I went through your post history and all I could find in the scores of threads you've made was a picture of some pond weed and a shot of a pelican.
It shouldn't, and I wish it didn't, but it does annoy me. You have every right to spend your money the way you want, that is your free and undeniable right, but I just can't help letting it irritate me.
I just get the feeling that people with as much gear as you don't want to be photographers, they want to look like photographers. Like, your website is literally just a gear list. You registered a domain name and purchased hosting just to have a gear list? That's nothing more than an out-and-out boast. When you spend that much time letting people know what gear you have, I question your motives, and wonder if it's as important that everyone knows you own as it is actually owning it.
Whatever makes you happy, but it was only in may you were asking how to put a border around your images, yet you own over $2000 worth of digital editing software. Why buy it if you don't know how to use it?
As someone who lives and breathes photography, someone who scours the web looking for the best possible pictures and then saving them to open in photoshop to look at the colour profiles, exif data, drawing arrows to work out light sources and figure out processing techniques to improve my own photographic ability with what limited equipment I have, immitators like you just annoy me.
Like I say, you shouldn't, but you do. I should be better than that, but I'm not.
You even made an IDENTICAL thread to this less than three months ago.
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=704950
Interesting post. I like your honesty, it's very refreshing.
I hope you also appreciate mine. I have never called myself anything but an amateur photographer and pointed out often my own lack of skills. I make no pretension to being anything more than a clumsy oaf stumbling along and learning this craft.....and LOVING every second of it.
I'm 47 years of age, I've worked hard and my family are very comfortable. I have the disposable income to own some "toys" and yes they can be top shelf. Am I going deprive myself of these luxuries and the pleasure of buying them, owning them and getting used to them affords me? No way in the world!
immitators like you just annoy me
Thats the only comment that I suppose bugs me enough to respond to singulary. I'm not an immitator. I have worked and raised a family, that family are now grown and my wife and myself have the free time to devote to hobbies. Time that neither of us had before.
I had film SLRs in the '70s and my own darkroom. Digital is a whole new learning experience for me. It's my journey, not yours.
You shouldn't be so quick to be critical of people.
Anyway, again, thanks for your honesty.
Cheers
DStanic
16th of September 2009 (Wed), 21:41
Wow... a website that is just a gear list! :shock:
i thought I was bad with my gear obsession, but I make sure I don't start collecting lenses just for the hell of it. I realize that the 24-70 f/2.8 and 24-105 f/4L both have their advantages and disadvantages over one another, but you also own a 17-85? why??? I would never have more then one unless one was for FF and the other EF-S. (incase you are wondering I'm gonna sell my 18-55 once I get a 17-55 IS).
I'm going to try to be happy with the gear I've got and try to improve my photography skills
Yeah, a 5DmkII and a 50D are just plain mediocre, I don't know how I can be happy with my crappy old 30D. :rolleyes: At first I thought this was just another "G.A.S." thread but the more I look at it the more I am getting annoyed too. :mad:
fotoworx
16th of September 2009 (Wed), 21:47
Wow... a website that is just a gear list! :shock:
Yep and something that I constructed by myself. The first time I have done anything along the lines of a webpage. It may not be a big milestone for others, but it was for me. I learnt a lot from doing that. From purchasing and setting up the domain and from using Dreamweaver.
It's a start, it's not the end. Hopefully it will continue to grow and be added to.
And the best thing about it.......I'm proud of it!......and no one else has to be ;)
fotoworx
16th of September 2009 (Wed), 21:52
but you also own a 17-85? why???
Good question.
Because when one of my sons says "Dad can I borrow a camera and a lens" I can happily give them the 50D and the 17-85mm
They're happy and I'm happy ;)
Mark_Cohran
16th of September 2009 (Wed), 22:35
Those of you that get irritated because someone else owns a bunch of gear really need to think before you post - and perhaps examine your own perspectives.
POTN, as a community, has always been proud of our friendly and welcoming attitude. Heck, we even let the Noink folks hang out here. :) If someone's gear list irritates you, then that's your problem, not that of the community at large. There's no reason to belittle anyone because they choose to own and can afford a significant amount of gear.
Now, if there is something productive to add to the thread, that's fine, but let's avoid the snarky remarks.
fotoworx
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 02:40
but it was only in may you were asking how to put a border around your images, yet you own over $2000 worth of digital editing software. Why buy it if you don't know how to use it?
What came first, the chicken or the egg?
FlyingPhotog
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 03:09
Honestly guys, a gear thread for the purpose of discussing gear threads seems kind of counterproductive.
It's second only to heated discussions over bodies/lenses that aren't even available to the public but everyone "knows" their opinion is the God's Honest Truth.
And you know what they say about opinions... ;)
weka2000
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 03:18
And you know what they say about opinions... ;)
Everybodys got one :lol:
fly my pretties
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 13:05
Interesting post. I like your honesty, it's very refreshing.
I hope you also appreciate mine. I have never called myself anything but an amateur photographer and pointed out often my own lack of skills. I make no pretension to being anything more than a clumsy oaf stumbling along and learning this craft.....and LOVING every second of it.
I'm 47 years of age, I've worked hard and my family are very comfortable. I have the disposable income to own some "toys" and yes they can be top shelf. Am I going deprive myself of these luxuries and the pleasure of buying them, owning them and getting used to them affords me? No way in the world!
Thats the only comment that I suppose bugs me enough to respond to singulary. I'm not an immitator. I have worked and raised a family, that family are now grown and my wife and myself have the free time to devote to hobbies. Time that neither of us had before.
I had film SLRs in the '70s and my own darkroom. Digital is a whole new learning experience for me. It's my journey, not yours.
You shouldn't be so quick to be critical of people.
Anyway, again, thanks for your honesty.
Cheers
That you are admittedly an amateur, admittedly take bad photos, yet you own more pro equipment than 90% of pros, THAT, I do not mind. That, in my opinion, is perfectly acceptable. Do what makes you happy, you only have one life, and if you've found what makes you happy, I respect and envy you for it.
It's the bragging that gets to me. I have to consider human nature when I look at your signature. Take a dude who's got his gear list in his signature, and it's a little XSI, a kit lens, and a 50mm 1.8... In my opinion, he's just letting you know what he's got so you know what he's shooting with. But then I look at yours, and you've taken all the time to put the big shiny red L's in place, you've got the website specifically dedicated to listing your material possessions, and that is why I question your motives.
The smart money is that you put it in there because you want everyone to know how great your collection is. You are bragging, and that's all there is to it.
I just don't like that. I don't like to feel someone is lording their financial status over people. It's probably because I'm working class, have a chip on my shoulder, and generally despise the middle classes while aspiring to be in the upper.
I don't doubt that this is entirely my problem. But it is what it is.
fly my pretties
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 13:08
Those of you that get irritated because someone else owns a bunch of gear really need to think before you post - and perhaps examine your own perspectives.
I just find the concept of someone saying "Don't sweat what you don't have" to be rather ironic and condescending when it's coming from someone with over $20,000 of equipment in their signature.
Am I wrong to feel that way?
I'm not trying to rock the boat here, because it's not the gear lists that annoy me, it's the motives behind them.
birdfromboat
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 13:38
and I thought this would turn out to be a fun post to follow. Could anything matter less than what someone else has or why they have it? I am still a gear head, but maybe a little less willing to admit it.
Mark_Cohran
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 13:55
I just find the concept of someone saying "Don't sweat what you don't have" to be rather ironic and condescending when it's coming from someone with over $20,000 of equipment in their signature.
Am I wrong to feel that way?
I'm not trying to rock the boat here, because it's not the gear lists that annoy me, it's the motives behind them.
Neither my gear list, nor ConDigitals is the issue here, rather it's an attitude that is counterproductive and unfriendly. If you don't like gear lists, don't read them, and certainly don't assume you know the motives behind them. Just don't express your irritation at someone simply because they are gear enthusiasts and enjoy equipment. That's counterproductive and has no place here. You are under obligation to read or post in any thread that you disagree with. Should you decide to post, you should do so within the guidelines and rules you agreed to when you joined.
fly my pretties
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 14:29
Neither my gear list, nor ConDigitals is the issue here, rather it's an attitude that is counterproductive and unfriendly. If you don't like gear lists, don't read them, and certainly don't assume you know the motives behind them. Just don't express your irritation at someone simply because they are gear enthusiasts and enjoy equipment. That's counterproductive and has no place here. You are under obligation to read or post in any thread that you disagree with. Should you decide to post, you should do so within the guidelines and rules you agreed to when you joined.
Only post an opinion or thought if it's positive. I get ya!
fotoworx
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 16:23
and I thought this would turn out to be a fun post to follow.
Me too, that was the point to it.
Wilt
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 16:47
at times, people are more interested in using their gear than the picture part.
pictures...is that what you pour milk out of?!
partsman
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 16:51
The only jealousy I have is that the OP managed to get all his kids raised by the time he was 47. I'm 56 and my third and final one is only halfway through college. When he's gone I'll own a 5dMkV and 2 9Ds, plus a big white lens so heavy I'll have to hire a lackey to carry it for me.;)
fotoworx
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 17:14
The only jealousy I have is that the OP managed to get all his kids raised by the time he was 47. I'm 56 and my third and final one is only halfway through college.
I chuckled at that!
My wife and I are into our 26th year of marriage. Our kids were brought up to have a strong work ethic and are now successful in their own right.
Lots of our friends partied through their 20's and 30's before settling down. We we're too busy changing babies bums etc for that, but now the dividend is paying off. Those same friends are now buying disposable diapers and having sleepless nights :)
One of my closest friends is 54 and he and his wife have a 2 year old.........I shouldn't, but I will have an evil LOL :evil:
Wilt
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 17:19
I chuckled at that!
My wife and I are into our 26th year of marriage. Our kids were brought up to have a strong work ethic and are now successful in their own right.
Lots of our friends partied through their 20's and 30's before settling down. We we're too busy changing babies bums etc for that, but now the dividend is paying off. Those same friends are now buying disposable diapers and having sleepless nights :)
One of my closest friends is 54 and he and his wife have a 2 year old.........I shouldn't, but I will have an evil LOL :evil:
Before you gloat, keep in mind you might find yourself with an unemployed 35 year old in your house, eating your food! :eek:
fotoworx
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 17:35
Before you gloat, keep in mind you might find yourself with an unemployed 35 year old in your house, eating your food! :eek:
LOL Wilt, that has crossed my mind. I've seen a few television shows with parents dealing with exactly that.
I've already told our kids (half jokingly ;)) that future grandkids can only come for day visits and no overnighters :mrgreen: I think my daughter-in-law believed me.
Wilt
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 17:37
LOL Wilt, that has crossed my mind. I've seen a few television shows with parents dealing with exactly that.
I've already told our kids (half jokingly ;)) that future grandkids can only come for day visits and no overnighters :mrgreen: I think my daughter-in-law believed me.
Just remember, one day you may be dependent upon your own kids to take care of you (and not send you to rot in a 'convalescent' home). 'Be kind to your daughters...(even the daughter-in-law)' they can be worth more than their weight in L lenses!
fotoworx
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 17:48
Just remember, one day you may be dependent upon your own kids to take care of you (and not send you to rot in a 'convalescent' home). 'Be kind to your daughters...(even the daughter-in-law)' they can be worth more than their weight in L lenses!
I wouldn't put that burden on them.
I have had to put my own mother in a convalescent home. We looked after her at home for 5 years before it got to much physically for us. We had a nurse come every day for 4 of those years and it still was too much for us. I love my Mother, I am what I am because of my Mother and Father (Dad passed away 29 years ago and was always unwell from injuries in the Pacific in WWII) but it was physically impossible for us to look after a bedridden person.
I visit her everyday, most days she knows that I'm there.
People can be very quick to judge and say things like "I would never put my father/mother in a home".
Nice thoughts, but the reality can be very different.
Wilt
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 18:19
I wouldn't put that burden on them.
I have had to put my own mother in a convalescent home. We looked after her at home for 5 years before it got to much physically for us. We had a nurse come every day for 4 of those years and it still was too much for us. I love my Mother, I am what I am because of my Mother and Father (Dad passed away 29 years ago and was always unwell from injuries in the Pacific in WWII) but it was physically impossible for us to look after a bedridden person.
I visit her everyday, most days she knows that I'm there.
People can be very quick to judge and say things like "I would never put my father/mother in a home".
Nice thoughts, but the reality can be very different.
I know! I have a 90 year old MIL and a 95 year old FIL in our house now. I dread the day that the MIL passes first, as he will be in need of constant attention because of very poor short term memory (although he is very lucid) and physical limitations, and even if we could be home we would not be able to manage his care sufficiently. Evil, but often necessary alternatives, are convalescent homes. Marriages have been ruined by the demands of home care.
Use your camera to preserve memories of your mother while you have her!!!
fotoworx
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 22:17
Use your camera to preserve memories of your mother while you have her!!!
Its funny that you say that. It's one thing that I don't want to do, not that I haven't thought about it of course.
Anyway, enough of the depressing stuff!
I need to go and buy some gear ;)
Hmm I feel like a change. Maybe I'll bin all this Canon stuff and try out Nikon. It might color co-ordinate better with my Hawaiian shirts :p
nphsbuckeye
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 23:00
pictures...is that what you pour milk out of?!
No, the baseball player.
Wilt
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 23:01
No, the baseball player.
I stand corrected ;)
fotoworx
17th of September 2009 (Thu), 23:06
No, the baseball player.
bw!
tkbslc
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 11:35
I just find the concept of someone saying "Don't sweat what you don't have" to be rather ironic and condescending when it's coming from someone with over $20,000 of equipment in their signature.
Yeah, kind of agree on this one although not as angrily.
fotoworx
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 17:08
Yeah, kind of agree on this one although not as angrily.
Boy oh boy there's some judgemental folk in the world, now ain't there just!
I've got about 1/5 of the gear I'd like. I love reading photography magazines and books (jeez is it all right with you guys if I spend my money on such luxuries???) and some of my favourite sections are the B&H ads etc
How do you guys go when you pull up at a red light and the guy next to you has a better car? Do you hate your neighbour if their house is better?
The GREEN MONSTER is well an truly alive isn't it.
tkbslc
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 17:23
Boy oh boy there's some judgemental folk in the world, now ain't there just!
I've got about 1/5 of the gear I'd like. I love reading photography magazines and books (jeez is it all right with you guys if I spend my money on such luxuries???) and some of my favourite sections are the B&H ads etc
How do you guys go when you pull up at a red light and the guy next to you has a better car? Do you hate your neighbour if their house is better?
The GREEN MONSTER is well an truly alive isn't it.
I said not as angrily, doesn't that mean anything? :)
As for your car anology, what if the guy rolled down the window of his porsche and said "Don't worry, your Hyundai is a fine car and still gets you to work on time. Sure it is no Porsche, but we have to start somewhere, right? In the end all cars are pretty cool."
You started a thread about how gearheads are silly and you are a gearhead. Telling people gear doesn't matter when obviously it does to you. Pointing out (or agreeing about) the irony does not make me jealous.
fotoworx
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 18:26
I said not as angrily, doesn't that mean anything? :)
LOL
My internet browser doesn't have a built in angry meter for me to gauge someones online anger;)
thebishopp
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 18:42
I said not as angrily, doesn't that mean anything? :)
As for your car anology, what if the guy rolled down the window of his porsche and said "Don't worry, your Hyundai is a fine car and still gets you to work on time. Sure it is no Porsche, but we have to start somewhere, right? In the end all cars are pretty cool."
You started a thread about how gearheads are silly and you are a gearhead. Telling people gear doesn't matter when obviously it does to you. Pointing out (or agreeing about) the irony does not make me jealous.
+1. I understand this point. In fact it reminds me of when rich people say to all the poor people that they don't understand how much suffering they have to go through being rich and us "poor" people should appreciate what we have lol.
I am not getting the feeling that the OP is like this just that it can come off that way.
fotoworx
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 18:52
+1. I understand this point. In fact it reminds me of when rich people say to all the poor people that they don't understand how much suffering they have to go through being rich and us "poor" people should appreciate what we have lol.
I am not getting the feeling that the OP is like this just that it can come off that way.
My apologies if I'm coming across that way. It's not, nor has ever been, my intention to portray myself as such.
Digital_zen
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 19:03
Or when people have so much gear and money invested in it and I have 5x as much talent and can't get the job that they come on the forums and ask how to shoot.
I find it rather funny and often quite often frustrating to be honest.
fotoworx
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 19:07
I have 5x as much talent
LOL I hope you see the irony there ;)
Digital_zen
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 19:30
What irony, the crazy usage of "x" instead of "times"? It was a photo-pun, didn't quite catch that? xD
fotoworx
18th of September 2009 (Fri), 20:28
What irony, the crazy usage of "x" instead of "times"? It was a photo-pun, didn't quite catch that? xD
A MP-E 65 with legs ;)
Get it :lol:
fotoworx
3rd of November 2010 (Wed), 23:14
LOL I love hanging out here. I've learnt so much.
Does anyone else ever feel that it's really Canon Digital GearHead Forums and not Canon Digital Photography Forums ?
It's fun seeing the different models and IQ etc being discussed in minute detail. Some take it to almost religious levels.
The best thing about Canon Digital Camera's is they all take a good picture.
Don't sweat what you don't have. Everything we have today is going to be "obsolete" way wayyyyy before the glass ever is.
Photographer, GearHead or both? I'm unashamedly both. I love technology, but I've learnt that it costs a lot to be at the bleeding edge of it all the time.
I'm going to try to be happy with the gear I've got and try to improve my photography skills which sadly I must say are in no way worthy of the gear I already own, let alone the gear I lust over.
Is there a pill for the disease Canonitiss?
14 months later and I still suffer from a bad case of Canonitiss..... :)
LowriderS10
3rd of November 2010 (Wed), 23:46
I love cameras for not only what I can do with them, but also in an of themselves as machines. I enjoy the gear threads...they widen my knowledge and help me decide on whatever I'm getting next. Before deciding on a 1D3, I started tons of threads about the 7D, 5D2, 1D2, 1Ds2, 1D3, etc...people gave me their opinions, examples, experiences, etc...that, along with hundreds of articles/reviews I read on the net is what helped me pick the camera which I'm convinced is perfect for me.
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