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cory1848
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 01:00
About a year ago I did an on location model shoot for a TFCD deal. She signed a model release and photos were delivered as promised. This was her first time and at the end of the shoot I remember her saying that she probably wont do this again. Nothing we did, just she said she wasn't comfortable.

Fast forward until tonight... I get an email from her...

Hey!
Im not sure if you remember me, but we worked with each other on a
beginner modeling shoot a long while back. As much as I enjoyed
working with you, and shooting together....is there anyway you can
possibly make the images gallery of my unedited pictures online
private? Or password access only? Just something along those lines?

When anyone googles my full name "Her name here" your website gallery
is the first link to come up in the search. And, the pictures are
easily accessible and viewable to anyone. (Including my current
prospective employers). ..not the greatest thing currently.

Thank you very much for your time!!
Hope your company has really taken off for you!

So, normally I wouldn't have a problem meeting this request as I have done so with my wedding clients...However this was a trade deal and if I remove or hide the gallery, that kind of makes the whole trade thing null and void...

So what would you all do in this situation? Stick to my guns and piss her off? Or comply and write it off as lost time? I haven't shot much with models since then, however I do plan to return to that as an addition to weddings. I would need this gallery viewable in order to market myself.

The only option I can think of would be to remove her name from the gallery so it no longer indexes her name in the google search...

Thoughts?

kenwood33
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 01:06
Is it very difficult for you to make the gallery private?

In fact i do not understanding why the proof gallery remains online after a year.

BillwYellowstone
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 01:13
I would just remove her name, use yours, as it is your work. his way she disappears in the search engine. (Maybe), searches seem to pick up targets long since gone.

Todd Lambert
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 01:14
Why not just change the galleries name so that it's not her name anymore?

That way she wouldn't come up in searches, fixing that problem, although it may take awhile for the search engines to update their indexes.

marcadrianphoto
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 03:56
HI,

I guess its up to you whether you hide the gallery, but when pictures taken its your property ...

cory1848
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 08:03
The gallery would include any photos I would want to use for Portfolio. That is my concern. I could make it private but again, that defeats the purpose in my mind.

I will probably just create a new gallery with a generic name and move all the photos over to that and then lock the existing one...

I know the photos are mine and legally I could tell her to pound sand...However wanted to get opinions from people that have run into this and see how they have approached it.

Cosha
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 10:09
She comes across a nice person, and i know you have every right to tell her your not going to remove etc...

If it was me, i would change her name, give her a nick name or something so its not the first thing that pops up on a google search, its not a totaly loss, and as she already said, she never felt it was for her to do a model shoot again i would give her the grace and see if you can help her...

Also the fcat that you already removed her name from the email tells me you dont want these pictures or her name to be shared anyway :D

like i say she sounds legit and genuine, so maybe once let it go

as always this is just my opinion, do as you feel is right

Jon Foster
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 11:35
We don't know much about the situation between you and the model other that what you've posted but in this case I would remove the gallery, hide it, password protect it etc. If there really are shots in there that are stellar, change the name(s) and use the best one (or two etc) for your portfolio in a different context.

Keep in mind changing the names of pictures and galleries may not resolve for a long long time. Even so, if people stumble onto your site because of a old link on a search engine or forum post they may not find the name but if they recognize the model the trouble she is trying to avoid may still come about.

Also, are you using shots that are a year old now? Don't you try to rotate portfolio items to keep things fresh?

Jon.

cdifoto
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 11:39
So what would you all do in this situation?
Edit them. ;)

stathunter
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 11:45
She comes across a nice person, and i know you have every right to tell her your not going to remove etc...

If it was me, i would change her name, give her a nick name or something so its not the first thing that pops up on a google search, its not a totaly loss, and as she already said, she never felt it was for her to do a model shoot again i would give her the grace and see if you can help her...

Also the fcat that you already removed her name from the email tells me you dont want these pictures or her name to be shared anyway :D

like i say she sounds legit and genuine, so maybe once let it go

as always this is just my opinion, do as you feel is right

Agreed - I would edit her name so it will not come up in a google search ---- personally I never put clients names in my photos -- I want my name/company name to come up -- not their name - this seems like a simple and fair request from her.

BEEEsH
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 11:51
Edit the name or remove her.

This woman has moved on, and is in the workforce. If people start googling her name, its going to completely ruin her working environment.

These photos aren't going to win you any awards, and I'm sure you didn't lose your house trying to take them.

Todd Lambert
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 12:00
Edit them. ;)

Black bars across the eyes, to protect the innocent, eh? :p

cdifoto
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 12:05
She said she doesn't want the unedited proofs out on display. Completely understandable. As a photographer I wouldn't display those in the first place.

If you have too many proofs to edit them all, pick some great ones, edit those, and hide the rest.

Johnny V
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 12:39
At the very least change her name. But it might take a few months before Google forgets where the images are. Might have to take down the images for a few months as Google will probably remember the page even if you change her name.

inthedeck
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 12:51
She said she doesn't want the unedited proofs out on display. Completely understandable. As a photographer I wouldn't display those in the first place.

If you have too many proofs to edit them all, pick some great ones, edit those, and hide the rest.

+2.

Honeybee
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 13:15
Employers nowadays are using all sorts of reasons to let people go. I'd remove the photos from the gallery - period. Wait a few months, create a different gallery under your name and only post the best of her if you feel her photos mean that much to your repertoire.

Fastfwd13
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 13:27
Make both people happy. Editing her name won't be enough to make sure the search does not end up on the pics.

Make sure that the URL links to the page and pictures are changed. Basically re-upload the pics to another URL(gallery name) and change her name at the same time, maybe use just the first name.

Do a google search yourself after to make sure it worked. She sounds nice and is polite about her request. I think it's worth the effort.

RDKirk
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 16:01
Edit the name or remove her.

This woman has moved on, and is in the workforce. If people start googling her name, its going to completely ruin her working environment.

These photos aren't going to win you any awards, and I'm sure you didn't lose your house trying to take them.

I agree, although what's on the web is often on the web forever--especially pictures of pretty girls. But I would remove the images completely.

You had and have a good relationship with the woman, even if it's now ended. Why screw her over?

Presuming you've improved over the last year, your next TFP work will be better. For marketing, you would not want to use more than one image from a particular model anyway (unless she is somehow super special...which doesn't sound like the case).

BilZ
26th of September 2009 (Sat), 14:55
I would not post a models real name to start with. Give her a nickname for the shoot and keep her personal info private. Just my thought. But on this one the cats outta the bag already so I would make the gallery private, unlisted, and create a new gallery with a nickname for her.

BZ

bohdank
26th of September 2009 (Sat), 15:30
Make both people happy. Editing her name won't be enough to make sure the search does not end up on the pics.

Make sure that the URL links to the page and pictures are changed. Basically re-upload the pics to another URL(gallery name) and change her name at the same time, maybe use just the first name.

Do a google search yourself after to make sure it worked. She sounds nice and is polite about her request. I think it's worth the effort.

That's what I would do.

Analog6
26th of September 2009 (Sat), 15:54
I'd just remove her name from it - good public relations and problem solved.

charlieharper
27th of September 2009 (Sun), 01:53
.... I will probably just create a new gallery with a generic name and move all the photos over to that and then lock the existing one...This seems like a win-win for all concerned, you get to keep the photographs for your portfolio, and she is no longer "associated" with them.
Beware however, that when someone Googles "Sue Smith", the LINK takes them you your (now non-existent) web-page(s)...BUT there's ALSO the "cached" option for the search result, it is harder (but can be done) to get this removed from Google !!

I know the photos are mine and legally I could tell her to pound sand.......
While you've got nothing to lose by telling her your rights, I'd try and do the "right thing" by all, which the above seems to be a fair compromise.

Karma and all that !!

CH.

hawk911
29th of September 2009 (Tue), 09:19
I've had the same thing happen when I used her full name. I removed the last name, and kept her first name. It's good for both of you, and in the case of your portfolio, there's no benefit to having her name there; you just need the images. Are they that good that you haven't shot anything better in the last year and could easily replace them with something else?

brownbugger
29th of September 2009 (Tue), 09:22
Id agree with the above poster , getting her name out from there would help her not being googled into & would help you still have the images on display for the future clients.

cory1848
29th of September 2009 (Tue), 11:46
Ok, I removed that gallery. The one she was questioning was just a sample gallery anyways. I forgot I even had it still live. The final edited shots were posted in another gallery on my main site. The main gallery doesnt have her full name on it so its not indexed with google. So all is good.

hawk911
29th of September 2009 (Tue), 11:58
happy happy all the way around

woodsters
29th of September 2009 (Tue), 15:41
Next thing she will be telling you those are her pictures and she has the rights to them...lol :rolleyes:

AxxisPhoto
30th of September 2009 (Wed), 15:45
She said she doesn't want the unedited proofs out on display. Completely understandable. As a photographer I wouldn't display those in the first place.

If you have too many proofs to edit them all, pick some great ones, edit those, and hide the rest.

+3.

jblaschke
30th of September 2009 (Wed), 16:33
Ok, I removed that gallery. The one she was questioning was just a sample gallery anyways. I forgot I even had it still live. The final edited shots were posted in another gallery on my main site. The main gallery doesnt have her full name on it so its not indexed with google. So all is good.

Best solution. Make this a policy with all your models and the problem won't return.

charlesu
1st of October 2009 (Thu), 17:50
Make both people happy. Editing her name won't be enough to make sure the search does not end up on the pics.

Make sure that the URL links to the page and pictures are changed. Basically re-upload the pics to another URL(gallery name) and change her name at the same time, maybe use just the first name.

Do a google search yourself after to make sure it worked. She sounds nice and is polite about her request. I think it's worth the effort.


I agree with this. I've taken down pics in the past from TF shoots. Especially if it's creating some kind of real hardship for someone.

bsaber
1st of October 2009 (Thu), 18:06
Best solution. Make this a policy with all your models and the problem won't return.

+1.

FenixFoto
3rd of October 2009 (Sat), 14:32
Yeah. I never use a model's name. Especially first and last. In addition to the employment angle, opens them up to stalkers and such

goldenturtle
21st of October 2009 (Wed), 22:36
About a year ago I did an on location model shoot for a TFCD deal. She signed a model release and photos were delivered as promised. This was her first time and at the end of the shoot I remember her saying that she probably wont do this again. Nothing we did, just she said she wasn't comfortable.

Fast forward until tonight... I get an email from her...



So, normally I wouldn't have a problem meeting this request as I have done so with my wedding clients...However this was a trade deal and if I remove or hide the gallery, that kind of makes the whole trade thing null and void...

So what would you all do in this situation? Stick to my guns and piss her off? Or comply and write it off as lost time? I haven't shot much with models since then, however I do plan to return to that as an addition to weddings. I would need this gallery viewable in order to market myself.

The only option I can think of would be to remove her name from the gallery so it no longer indexes her name in the google search...

Thoughts?

As lawsuit happy as some folks are today, I would take them down as per her request. Besides its good to change your website to keep it fresh. People go to photographers web sites to see whats new... If some look and see the same pics frome x number months ago.. they may think you aren't staying topical and new. Just my .02 worth

charlieharper
3rd of November 2009 (Tue), 10:57
^^^^^^^^^^

Reported !!

CH.

johngalt_ny
10th of November 2009 (Tue), 16:58
You probably have the right to refuse but just because you can doesn't mean you should.

She's not being hard a**ed or demanding and she sounds like she's making a sincere request for very good reason.

Rename it or whatever seperates her from the search engines. Of course, Google probably has it cahched anyway but at least you did what you could.

Hedley
12th of November 2009 (Thu), 04:45
If you do change the name, it might be wise to let her know that it might well take google up to 3 months to index the changes

Richtherookie
17th of November 2009 (Tue), 13:20
I'd set down and do what I'd wish a professional photographer would do if it was my daughter.

I'd at least change her name.

Jeff Colburn
21st of November 2009 (Sat), 00:04
I wouldn't include a models name unless she was trying to establish a modeling career. I would remove her name, and if it's not a big deal, make her photos private.

Have Fun,
Jeff

SMP_Homer
25th of November 2009 (Wed), 11:45
Find out who her prospective employer is, and IP-block your domain :-)

Ask yourself... are those pics important to your website? Do you really lose out by not having them there for everyone else to see? If not, remove them. If they're important, then rename and re-work them to detach them as much as you can from this person