Hasselblad "true focus" system

[Bob_A]

Hasselblad has an introduced a new innovation (their "true focus" system) that just goes to show that there is plenty of room for improvement for future AF systems. It's an interesting read:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09092802hasselblad.asp

[chestercopperpot]

Wow - that is awesome! (if it works.) :D

[imahawki]

That would be useful!

[texaskev]

Very cool. Man that's a lot of money!

[livinglight]

Looks pretty simple, but that's it - simple ideas that are actually implemented and work are great ideas.

I'd imagine it takes around $10 in hardware to be able to do this, so unless HB hold a tricky patent on it, this will be the selling point for new DSLRs in a few years time.

Interestingly, it's the same sort of sensors that are used in in-lens IS systems anyway. Wonder if Canon or Nikon could get the data out of the lens and use that to implement something similar.

[HYBEagle]

No way the hardware that precise would cost only $10. The yaw detector and the chip sets along would probably cost thousands of dollars to manufature.

[RiaGurl]

60MP. you'd need several 32giggers. and terabytes on the comp to boot.

[Bob_A]

60MP. you'd need several 32giggers. and terabytes on the comp to boot.

yup, but if you can afford one of these a few hundred for hard drives and memory cards is hardly a dent in the budget :lol:

[frankchn]

No way the hardware that precise would cost only $10. The yaw detector and the chip sets along would probably cost thousands of dollars to manufature.

Doubt it - I think you just need an accelerometer to measure the change the camera angle as you adjust your composition by tilting the camera - and solid state accelerometers are now so common that they are found in iPod touches. Unless you work in an environment with an ever-changing direction of the acceleration due to gravity etc (in which case I think you can turn it off) - it should work pretty reliably.

I don't think the software will be that hard to write either - but this may only work with lenses that already report distance information for E-TTL II.

[fs454]

Just curious, who uses these cameras? Considering they cost around $45,000?

[TheHoff]

Just curious, who uses these cameras? Considering they cost around $45,000?

A friend of mine is VP of marketing for a retail clothing store. The photographer he uses rents the Hasselblads with Phase One backs for their catalog and store display shoots. Not too many individual photographers would find it financially prudent to spend so much of their own money into quickly depreciating technology.

[RiaGurl]

i have seen pro's that make $30,000 for 1 product shoot, for a big agency. those that i saw, were renting the camera for the weekend/week, fyi. not sure how much renting it costs, but probably $1000-2,000 is my guess which is a lot les than owning it.

[328somewhere]

Wow thats crazy. 30k for one shot. I need one of these.

[RiaGurl]

well the guy took a lot of shots (it was for a motorola phone), but yes 1 shoot, 30 large. must be nice. he rented the H3D, and actually had help from an assistant to show him how to use it! LOL

another assistant set up the product shot, someone else did all the transfer stuff to the computer, etc.

he just showed up to click the shutter and to give a little direction. photographer...ya right...that bastard. you would be surprised at how very little a pro photographer actually does, when having someone else or another do essentially everything.

[cccc]

I think it would implement an iPhone-like accelerometer.

[RiaGurl]

in a way the 7D features this with it's electronic viewfinder and the orientation based af points. i don't know what canon calls it though, but there has to be a thingy that makes it know how the camera is.

[wrussi]

well the guy took a lot of shots (it was for a motorola phone), but yes 1 shoot, 30 large. must be nice. he rented the H3D, and actually had help from an assistant to show him how to use it! LOL

another assistant set up the product shot, someone else did all the transfer stuff to the computer, etc.

he just showed up to click the shutter and to give a little direction. photographer...ya right...that bastard. you would be surprised at how very little a pro photographer actually does, when having someone else or another do essentially everything.

aw man i'd love to get paid 30k to press a button!

[RiaGurl]

a lot of the major players do little or nothing except press the button. they have people doing the lighting and everything else.

[HYBEagle]

I am pretty sure that photographer doesn't keep the entire 30K all by himself. A big portion of it would go to his assistant's wage. And there are probably other spense too.

[RiaGurl]

i'm sure that he didn't pay 2 of those assistants that well, as they were interns from school. they'd be lucky if they got $1,000 a piece...really lucky, but i doubt they even got half that. He rented a studio...yes rented one, for the weekend. In all i guarantee he pocketed at least $20 grand after expenses.

it shows you that you really need absolutely zero tools to have high end assignments/shoot professionally as you can rent absolutely everything.

[HastyPhoto]

wont be too long before the camera sees exactly what your eye is looking at and focuses on that.

[dufrenbk]

wont be too long before the camera sees exactly what your eye is looking at and focuses on that.

THAT would be sweet! That almost seems possible, but with lots of research, time, and money.

[TheHoff]

I'm just now back from the future and I brought you this camera...

http://bg1.msrv.store.bg/prdimg/10095/profesionalen-fotoaparat-tialo-canon-eos-3.jpg

[airfrogusmc]

Wow thats crazy. 30k for one shot. I need one of these.

No first you need to get the client that will pay that for a shot;)

[RiaGurl]

ya it's the client that has the money to give, but apparently there are a lot of them. it's all a who you know game, cuz this dimwit photographer (recognized in the community most definitely), didn't seem to have a clue to what he was doing honestly.

The kid that was assisting could have done the shoot, to tell you the truth. How's that for politics for ya.

[Tareq]

So i am just learning by myself now how to use this high end camera, lighting, photoshop,...etc, then i will try to find clients and assistants so i will be sure that i know what i am doing.

[Kyle is raaddd]

i'm sure that he didn't pay 2 of those assistants that well, as they were interns from school. they'd be lucky if they got $1,000 a piece...really lucky, but i doubt they even got half that. He rented a studio...yes rented one, for the weekend. In all i guarantee he pocketed at least $20 grand after expenses.

it shows you that you really need absolutely zero tools to have high end assignments/shoot professionally as you can rent absolutely everything.

Haha to be honest, I would gladly set up the lighting if the photographer gave me $1,000 :P

Of course it would suck, knowing that he has the other $29,000, but 1k is still pretty good!

[RiaGurl]

So i am just learning by myself now how to use this high end camera, lighting, photoshop,...etc, then i will try to find clients and assistants so i will be sure that i know what i am doing.
i don't know if this is sarcasm. you have a pretty impressive gear list, which may lead me to believe you know exactly what you are doing;)

[Karl Johnston]

Wow thats crazy. 30k for one shot. I need one of these.
Nope, you need the client who will pay you 30k for that one shot..whatever you use to create it is up to you

[Kyle is raaddd]

i don't know if this is sarcasm. you have a pretty impressive gear list, which may lead me to believe you know exactly what you are doing;)

Haha I definitely think that it is sarcasm ;)

[Tareq]

i don't know if this is sarcasm. you have a pretty impressive gear list, which may lead me to believe you know exactly what you are doing;)

Haha I definitely think that it is sarcasm ;)

It is sarcasm ;)

[RiaGurl]

It is sarcasm ;)
i figured. again impressive and expensive. i'm sure it's paid itself off.

[Tareq]

i figured. again impressive and expensive. i'm sure it's paid itself off.

Nah, my hassy is sitting there collecting dust and dirt, didn't shoot with it much nowadays, even my Canon DSLRs are just watching me typing on here and they're crying to be used, i think i will never get paid of all my gear at all, but i will keep spend all my money on gear and just live the dreams.

I really don't want to pay hundreds or thousands to hire models to use my hassy and after that i just keep the shots in my computer or showing you and i never get paid and those models laughing at me and i can't find any agency to accept me to work with them, i called and went to few agencies for commercial and fashion in my country and all photographers are Westerners and they don't look for arabs [because those foreigners didn't leave anything to us], so it is different lifestyle a bit here than you, how do you think i can't get paid with my gear even at least 40-50%?

[Kyle is raaddd]

Nah, my hassy is sitting there collecting dust and dirt, didn't shoot with it much nowadays, even my Canon DSLRs are just watching me typing on here and they're crying to be used, i think i will never get paid of all my gear at all, but i will keep spend all my money on gear and just live the dreams.

I looked at your gear list,...

I still need to pick my jaw up off the floor.

[Tareq]

I looked at your gear list,...

I still need to pick my jaw up off the floor.

Yes, but when i go to some forums like LL or GetDPI then i see my gear is not that much comparing with people having LF and MFs[digital and film] and some DSLRs, i still don't have LF yet, not even 10 Ls yet, no Profoto lights yet, no Mac Pro, so what is about my gear? it is not that drooling to my eyes.

[Kyle is raaddd]

Yes, but when i go to some forums like LL or GetDPI then i see my gear is not that much comparing with people having LF and MFs[digital and film] and some DSLRs, i still don't have LF yet, not even 10 Ls yet, no Profoto lights yet, no Mac Pro, so what is about my gear? it is not that drooling to my eyes.

You also have to keep in mind this is coming from someone with a D40 with only the kit lens. I have a B800, but that's about as crazy as my stuff goes.

The fact that you have a hassy, TWO 1Ds's, TWO 1D's, and a 5D is just crazy to me.
Gimme one!!! I'm not picky :P

[Tareq]

You also have to keep in mind this is coming from someone with a D40 with only the kit lens. I have a B800, but that's about as crazy as my stuff goes.

The fact that you have a hassy, TWO 1Ds's, TWO 1D's, and a 5D is just crazy to me.
Gimme one!!! I'm not picky :P

I am not sure if that will be much pricey than buying all these, but i prefer if you come and live in my country near me, then you will have a full access [or maybe half access] to my gear! ;)

[Tareq]

I mentioned before that i really don't need all that gear, even that 5D or 1D2N is more than enough for me, but because i feel very bored and so upset in my country that with whatever gear you have you couldn't have something interesting to photograph to your opinion, so that i decided i should put my effort in getting more gear and not to improve and raise my skills, even if i am an artist here it is like i am drawing on the water, no exposed or consideration here in my country for many talented and creative artists and hobbyists.

[Kyle is raaddd]

I am not sure if that will be much pricey than buying all these, but i prefer if you come and live in my country near me, then you will have a full access [or maybe half access] to my gear! ;)

Haha I'll think about it ;)

I mentioned before that i really don't need all that gear, even that 5D or 1D2N is more than enough for me, but because i feel very bored and so upset in my country that with whatever gear you have you couldn't have something interesting to photograph to your opinion, so that i decided i should put my effort in getting more gear and not to improve and raise my skills, even if i am an artist here it is like i am drawing on the water, no exposed or consideration here in my country for many talented and creative artists and hobbyists.

Yes, that was why I was like " :O ".
It's just overkill! Haha but I love it.

Why can't you find things to photograph in your country?

[Tareq]

Haha I'll think about it ;)



Yes, that was why I was like " :O ".
It's just overkill! Haha but I love it.

Why can't you find things to photograph in your country?

Hot weather
High Humidity
No rains
No clouds [rarely every year we can see]
Traffic
Small country
Architecture and sturcture are not that so lovely and disappearing of historical places as the government demolish a lot of old and historical places to build new like-plastic city
What else i can say

Even with what we have already and i go to photograph it will not make my living or get paid me.

[Kyle is raaddd]

Hot weather
High Humidity
No rains
No clouds [rarely every year we can see]
Traffic
Small country
Architecture and sturcture are not that so lovely and disappearing of historical places as the government demolish a lot of old and historical places to build new like-plastic city
What else i can say

Even with what we have already and i go to photograph it will not make my living or get paid me.

Ohh,... Well I'm sorry!
Yeah, I probably won't make a living off of it either, but it is a great hobby (that does pay sometimes :D )

[Tareq]

Ohh,... Well I'm sorry!
Yeah, I probably won't make a living off of it either, but it is a great hobby (that does pay sometimes :D )

And i am wondering that as long if you are in USA then you should be better get paid more than me in photography, just you need to work hard and know what to do or whatever for that goal, otherwise if you are there with everything available in your huge country and you still get nothing then i am better here with nothing and i get something.

[RiaGurl]

isn't everyone rich there in the uae?

[Tareq]

isn't everyone rich there in the uae?

OH yeah, we are so rich here, and i am planning to buy 5 more cameras and 15 lenses and Profoto lights, how about Bronocolor? and my friends all are shooting with Phase One and H3Ds, no one here is using 5DII or D700, only 1Ds/1D[3 and soon 4] and D3X cameras and top lenses.

Oh man, i hate when people thinking that we are arabs are rich, i am sure that from all the rich people in the world only maybe 30-40% only are arabs, and honestly the rich people here in my country are 10% arabs, 90% non arabs.

[Kyle is raaddd]

And i am wondering that as long if you are in USA then you should be better get paid more than me in photography, just you need to work hard and know what to do or whatever for that goal, otherwise if you are there with everything available in your huge country and you still get nothing then i am better here with nothing and i get something.

Yes, I know I have many opportunities here in the USA, and I really do want to make the best of them :D

[Tareq]

Yes, I know I have many opportunities here in the USA, and I really do want to make the best of them :D

Good luck then! [I feel jealous ;):D]

[Kyle is raaddd]

Good luck then! [I feel jealous ;):D]

Well come on over here then!!

[RiaGurl]

OH yeah, we are so rich here, and i am planning to buy 5 more cameras and 15 lenses and Profoto lights, how about Bronocolor? and my friends all are shooting with Phase One and H3Ds, no one here is using 5DII or D700, only 1Ds/1D[3 and soon 4] and D3X cameras and top lenses.

Oh man, i hate when people thinking that we are arabs are rich, i am sure that from all the rich people in the world only maybe 30-40% only are arabs, and honestly the rich people here in my country are 10% arabs, 90% non arabs.
what?!

wtf? i never said OR implied that arabs are rich. not saying they are not. my comment was on the country. so...........? it's known to be rich is it not? just like there are rich suburbs here in the states....it's just a fact. beverly hills is known to be an affluent town....there's no denying it.

wow you seem to have taken the question in your own context. very revealing.

besides i asked a question, didn't i? and you veered and went off on another subject.

it's like you asking me what color my belt is and i go off and respond...."i hate how everyone thinks that leather is always colored" wtf?

[Tareq]

Well come on over here then!!

I was there [in NY and LA only], didn't enjoy much, thanks anyway! ;)

[Tareq]

what?!

wtf? i never said OR implied that arabs are rich. not saying they are not. my comment was on the country. so...........? it's known to be rich is it not? just like there are rich suburbs here in the states....it's just a fact. beverly hills is known to be an affluent town....there's no denying it.

wow you seem to have taken the question in your own context. very revealing.

besides i asked a question, didn't i? and you veered and went off on another subject.

it's like you asking me what color my belt is and i go off and respond...."i hate how everyone thinks that leather is always colored" wtf?

Sorry for that, but really there are many many people asked me if i am rich or people in my country rich or my country is rich just because they think i am from arab land or arabic country, so that i went off the topic, but at least i answered you and also i explained and told you more than what you need, just make it as a reference, and also i was meaning to say that for others who will read and may ask again or something else about it, so it is like i answer you and others indirect.

But anyway, we have money, i mean the economy here is not so bad, i don't know if my country is rich or no, sometimes there are hidden issues in politics and economy, i may get surprised that my country have a loan from others, who knows?!!!

[RiaGurl]

Sorry for that, but really there are many many people asked me if i am rich or people in my country rich or my country is rich just because they think i am from arab land or arabic country, so that i went off the topic, but at least i answered you and also i explained and told you more than what you need, just make it as a reference, and also i was meaning to say that for others who will read and may ask again or something else about it, so it is like i answer you and others indirect.

But anyway, we have money, i mean the economy here is not so bad, i don't know if my country is rich or no, sometimes there are hidden issues in politics and economy, i may get surprised that my country have a loan from others, who knows?!!!
yes yes it's fine. i don't know. i don't guess why beverly hills is rich...i could say that maybe a lot of celebrities and other business owners live there. i don't analyze why...we just accept, because it is the facts. every city has statistics like average salary, etc.

i wouldn't go analyzing why one would think so. just wondering since you live there. what the average salary would be. i could look it up i guess, if i knew what city, but as a whole as a country, i believe on average is more affluent than many many other countries. it's just a fact (if that's the case).

i would be hell ya i'm rich, if someone asked me and i was rich. there should be no shame in that. or the opposite.

ya nyc is a dump...literally...not a great place. i don't think l.a. in general is all that great either. then again...none of the major cities are...you need to go in the suburbs if you want to live a nice peaceful life.

[RiaGurl]

some info on uae i found

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ae.html

Qatar is a lot richer by comparison.

[Tareq]

yes yes it's fine. i don't know. i don't guess why beverly hills is rich...i could say that maybe a lot of celebrities and other business owners live there. i don't analyze why...we just accept, because it is the facts. every city has statistics like average salary, etc.

i wouldn't go analyzing why one would think so. just wondering since you live there. what the average salary would be. i could look it up i guess, if i knew what city, but as a whole as a country, i believe on average is more affluent than many many other countries. it's just a fact (if that's the case).

i would be hell ya i'm rich, if someone asked me and i was rich. there should be no shame in that. or the opposite.

ya nyc is a dump...literally...not a great place. i don't think l.a. in general is all that great either. then again...none of the major cities are...you need to go in the suburbs if you want to live a nice peaceful life.

some info on uae i found

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ae.html

Qatar is a lot richer by comparison.

True, I think Qatar is smaller than UAE and i heard that they are maybe the first or second in the world with the Natural Gas, also the population in Qatar is less than UAE, and government in Qatar support locals more than UAE, we were supported much more in the past but now not much anymore and the foreigners rule, i heard from our Hasselblad dealer that some Qatar people bought Hasselblad from them, i think maybe 5-6 UAE people in all UAE bought that hasselblad digital including me.

Really many UAE people has money here but to be honest, they wasted money on houses, expensive cars, marriage,.. and the end they complaint that they need more because they don't have enough money for something else, i mean if they spend on marriage no more for house, if house first then marriage is difficult, and later with children for food and school we are suffering, my only secret that i can tell why i could afford all these gear is because i am lucky enough that i live with my parent at same house so they pay for my food and house bill [electricity and water], sometimes rarely they can pay for my car fuel and sometimes when i travel they pay my phone bill, my dad bought the car for me, also each UAE citizen has a right to get a house so i had a house from government, but because the cost of building was little more so the government paid about 60-70% and my dad paid the rest, so all my salary now is just for my wife/children, phone/internet bill, food sometimes, car fuel, and ofcourse my personal things like photography and computer and travel and so.

[Tareq]

Back to topic, i wish to test that H4D, it may better in AF than my H3DII which is awful in focus.
I want to buy that Phase One DF, i tested only once for seconds in Photo Plus, WOW for focus, which they sell it separately and not with that digital back.

[Ook]

Bah! They stole my idea! http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=607058

:p

[EdBray]

Tareq, your gear list is impressive but if you are not using it then you might just as well have a decent bridge camera.

I believe that you need to find something to interest you photographically that may offer a different perspective or insight into your country that may appeal to prospective purchasers of your work. It would seem that you have become more obsessed with purchasing gear than getting out and taking pictures. The funny thing is to help improve 'your mojo' I am going to suggest you spend some more, although I feel that it may be prudent to sell some of your current kit, I mean to be honest, how many bodies can you use at any one time?

I suggest you buy something like an MPe 65 and an MT-24 and start to see what is in your world in a different light, that will hopefully give you a different perspective and help rekindle your passion for photography rather than for gear collecting or trying to obtain the ultimate image quality, a poor picture with no passion is not improved just by having been taken on a high end camera!

[Tareq]

Tareq, your gear list is impressive but if you are not using it then you might just as well have a decent bridge camera.

I believe that you need to find something to interest you photographically that may offer a different perspective or insight into your country that may appeal to prospective purchasers of your work. It would seem that you have become more obsessed with purchasing gear than getting out and taking pictures. The funny thing is to help improve 'your mojo' I am going to suggest you spend some more, although I feel that it may be prudent to sell some of your current kit, I mean to be honest, how many bodies can you use at any one time?

I suggest you buy something like an MPe 65 and an MT-24 and start to see what is in your world in a different light, that will hopefully give you a different perspective and help rekindle your passion for photography rather than for gear collecting or trying to obtain the ultimate image quality, a poor picture with no passion is not improved just by having been taken on a high end camera!

Thanks!

I heard that from many people, even i asked myself these thing.

In all cases, it is my money, people sometimes spend millions on something they really don't need it [palaces, planes, cars,....], so if i spend hundred thousands on gear without much usage will that make a difference?

I understand your points, if someone getting all that gear then he must use that for what is worthy otherwise it is wasting money and time and no point to collect.

I said many times on different forums that my reason to go with photography is personal, and i didn't think to be a photographer, and i found that i become more happy with gear than taking photos, also my situations in my area also bad and so difficult, the weather here is very bad even indoors most of the time, so that i have a thinking that i can't waste time to take photos here and there and have artworks or improving my photographic skills, also i don't want to wait decades to use only one or 2 cameras to learn and improve myself while others getting more or newer cameras and doesn't matter if they get improved or not.

For the meanwhile, i shoot sports in my area using my 1DmkIIN and 1DmkIII [300L + 70-200 f2.8IS], i shoot outdoor and some events with my 1DsIII [24-70, 24-105, 16-35L], and i use my 1DsII for work as a civil engineer because i don't want to use my 1DsIII or H3D on construction fields, 5D or 30D can be used as backup.

Anyway, i know myself and my situations, i don't like others to advise me like i am a kid or idiot, as i said it is my money, as long i wasted them and i am happy is better than i save millions and use one thing only and feel sad and disappointed forever, i am not in rush for taking or having photos, at least i get paid few times before, i won in 2 competitions, and waiting the third which i am working n submitting details and printed photos as requested, so with 3-4 years of getting into photography and had those achievement i should be happy, i don't care that i must be the top photographer now or a professional photographer, still i have my job and i am still working to get into photography business if i can then later i may change my job, but until that time i just have fun and enjoy collecting gear and shoot when i am in mood, getting that Macro lens with flash will not make me to go out more or shoot more as well, but thanks!

[Kyle is raaddd]

el oh el.
5D as a backup
http://gdd-tech.net/images/smilies/thud.gif

[Tareq]

el oh el.
5D as a backup
http://gdd-tech.net/images/smilies/thud.gif

1DsII is a back for 1DsIII
1D mkIIN is a backup for 1DIII
All FF cameras [5D, 1DsII, 1DsIII] are backups for H3DII

[Kyle is raaddd]

1DsII is a back for 1DsIII
1D mkIIN is a backup for 1DIII
All FF cameras [5D, 1DsII, 1DsIII] are backups for H3DII

Ahhh!!!
The insanity :P

[Tareq]

Ahhh!!!
The insanity :P

I am! ;):lol:

[mountbatten]

I live in a smaller country than yours and maybe you should try to see what you like to take photos of the most. A lot of problems in your country you mentioned in an earlier are the same here in Malta.
I take a lot of Macro as landscapes are somewhat limited an repetitive in a small country. I wish I had a better camera body but for now I am still using the 20D. Just enjoy photography and if recognition comes welcome it but always take photos to improve your technique and enjoy yourself. I wish I can make more money from photography but if I dont make money I will still try to take good photos to better myself and keep challenging myself.
Great gear list by the way and also great gallery!!!

[Tareq]

I live in a smaller country than yours and maybe you should try to see what you like to take photos of the most. A lot of problems in your country you mentioned in an earlier are the same here in Malta.
I take a lot of Macro as landscapes are somewhat limited an repetitive in a small country. I wish I had a better camera body but for now I am still using the 20D. Just enjoy photography and if recognition comes welcome it but always take photos to improve your technique and enjoy yourself. I wish I can make more money from photography but if I dont make money I will still try to take good photos to better myself and keep challenging myself.
Great gear list by the way and also great gallery!!!

Thanks!
Would you like to swap countries? Malta is way better than UAE, come here and see by yourself!

[RiaGurl]

wait a second...i must have missed the problems with one country or another.

is it because it's small? it that's the case, i know people that have stayed in 1 city for their whole lives, that i'm certain is much smaller than either of your countries, and they managed to capture many interesting and awesome shots.

what exactly are the problems again?

tareq, what do you mean the air is bad? and inside too? really? i kind of thought the uae would be a great place to visit. good to know from a native. please tell. and how do they treat american tourists?

[robojack]

This thread seems to have pretty much derailed.

[RiaGurl]

This thread seems to have pretty much derailed.
do you have a point?:) or do you like to make observations that may or may not be true and just leave it at that. if you make a comment, then make your point.

here let me add:

the sky is blue
snow is white
pee is yellow

so what...what is my point...i didn't list any...exactly...i should have.

go jack your robo:) btw, i like the brick shot.

[Kyle is raaddd]

pee is yellow

Sometimes :P

[RiaGurl]

Sometimes :P
well.....unless you're drinking green beer.

[robojack]

do you have a point?:) or do you like to make observations that may or may not be true and just leave it at that. if you make a comment, then make your point.

here let me add:

the sky is blue
snow is white
pee is yellow

so what...what is my point...i didn't list any...exactly...i should have.

go jack your robo:) btw, i like the brick shot.It's not as much about stating the obvious, as much as it was about trying to re-align the thread with the original topic. Course, considering how most people can't or won't afford this camera, it's understandable that people would rather talk about something else. ;)

Oh, and thanks for the compliment! :)

[RiaGurl]

i think that's why it digressed more than less. all threads will digress at least eventually.

[Tareq]

So should i sell my Hasselblad because i don't work with it, any recommendations?!!!

[EdBray]

So should i sell my Hasselblad because i don't work with it, any recommendations?!!!

If you don't need the money, and you are happy owning the kit, why would you? Surely not because people on here say so?

I have more equipment than I really need and a lot of it is only used occasionally, but whilst I get some pleasure from owning the kit I would not get rid of it unless I was desperate for the cash.

I would love to own a digital Hassy and I suspect you feel the same but are in the enviable position of owning one. Do what your heart dictates, you only live once!

[RiaGurl]

If you don't need the money, and you are happy owning the kit, why would you? Surely not because people on here say so?

I have more equipment than I really need and a lot of it is only used occasionally, but whilst I get some pleasure from owning the kit I would not get rid of it unless I was desperate for the cash.

I would love to own a digital Hassy and I suspect you feel the same but are in the enviable position of owning one. Do what your heart dictates, you only live once!
says who?:lol:

[Tareq]

If you don't need the money, and you are happy owning the kit, why would you? Surely not because people on here say so?

I have more equipment than I really need and a lot of it is only used occasionally, but whilst I get some pleasure from owning the kit I would not get rid of it unless I was desperate for the cash.

I would love to own a digital Hassy and I suspect you feel the same but are in the enviable position of owning one. Do what your heart dictates, you only live once!

No, in fact i don't want to get rid of any of my kit, but people here and there [in my area too] asking me to sell or get rid of something because i have too much and i don't need that, ok, i bought them after long team of search and research and i love owning them, why did i bought them then first place? and i am not in situation that i must get rid of something at all, but people really making the bird to be fallen from the sky!!! :D

[Tareq]

I need to learn more to deserve that Hasselblad, i suck in lighting :confused:

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/4104/a0002139.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2151/a0001859.jpg

[airfrogusmc]

So should i sell my Hasselblad because i don't work with it, any recommendations?!!!

Dude you can own whatever you want and I see all kinds of 1DsmkIII owners that are not qualified:lol:. Own what you want and make NO APOLOGIES. If you can afford to own ROCK ON. I have a freind that has a collection of every Leica M film camera made and all are mint. He's not a great photographer. In fact he hardly shoots with any of those cameras and he has one M series that was a special edition, very limited numbers made and could only be purchased from the factory invitation only. He can afford it. His family doesn't starve becasue he bought the stuff. If it brings you pleasure and it don't hurt no one; I can't see why anyone else would care. I personally think its very COOL (being an old 500C/M owner.

[RiaGurl]

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[Tareq]

Dude you can own whatever you want and I see all kinds of 1DsmkIII owners that are not qualified:lol:. Own what you want and make NO APOLOGIES. If you can afford to own ROCK ON. I have a freind that has a collection of every Leica M film camera made and all are mint. He's not a great photographer. In fact he doesn't hardly shoots with any of those cameras and he has on M series that wad a special edition, very limited numbers made and could only be purchased from the factory invitation only. He cam afford it. His family doesn't starve becasue he bought the stuff. If it brings you pleasure and it don't hurt no one; I can't see why anyone else would care. I personally think its very COOL (being an old 500C/M owner.

And i don't care, i am not crazy or idiot to sell something just others telling me to do, hehehe.

Anyway, the problem is that i am not a good photographer yet, and here is not many into Hasselblad the digital one, rarely i can see forums about Hasselblad [i registered in few of them and nothing much to get there], Canon/Nikon/Sony dominate the world of photography with the number of users

[airfrogusmc]

And i don't care, i am not crazy or idiot to sell something just others telling me to do, hehehe.

Anyway, the problem is that i am not a good photographer yet, and here is not many into Hasselblad the digital one, rarely i can see forums about Hasselblad [i registered in few of them and nothing much to get there], Canon/Nikon/Sony dominate the world of photography with the number of users

Just keep working at it and your not as bad as you think you are. ;)

The majority wouldn't buy Hasselblad or Leica so there are less forums for them and less people on them.

[RiaGurl]

ya i love your shots tareq.

[Tareq]

Just keep working at it and your not as bad as you think you are. ;)

The majority wouldn't buy Hasselblad or Leica so there are less forums for them and less people on them.

OK, i will keep shooting until my death or until i can't move my hands and body!

ya i love your shots tareq.

Thank you very much!

[Kyle is raaddd]

well.....unless you're drinking green beer.

Mmmmmm
http://www.odditycentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/green-beer.jpg

ya i love your shots tareq.

Me too :)

[moochies]

haha awesome

[sheewai]

(sorry OT - just want to add)

Bro Tareq u just need to kick-stir ur 'creativity juice' - there r so many 'type' of photography: ppl like to shoot cars, macro insects in the desert...many many;)

Saw ur gear list:eek: but sorry to say not awesome enough even on ur wish list:p...no 200mm f2 (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=506386&highlight=200mm)bw! its in my wish list...like forever:(

keep shooting - keep doing - keep at it n ur probably get it:cool:

best regards

[Tareq]

(sorry OT - just want to add)

Bro Tareq u just need to kick-stir ur 'creativity juice' - there r so many 'type' of photography: ppl like to shoot cars, macro insects in the desert...many many;)

Saw ur gear list:eek: but sorry to say not awesome enough even on ur wish list:p...no 200mm f2 (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=506386&highlight=200mm)bw! its in my wish list...like forever:(

keep shooting - keep doing - keep at it n ur probably get it:cool:

best regards

Thanks!

I have another "HIDDEN" wish list but for low priority gear, and that 200 f2L is on that list ;)

And who says my gear list is awesome?!!! it is still missing a lot to add to the collection to be good enough :p

[RiaGurl]

you're right. you need to ditch that old 100 macro and get the new 100L :D

[Tareq]

you're right. you need to ditch that old 100 macro and get the new 100L :D

What about to ditch that 16-35 too and get mkII version? How about to ditch my 5D classic and get 5DII or better to ditch my 1DIII and go with 1DmkIV?

[RiaGurl]

What about to ditch that 16-35 too and get mkII version? How about to ditch my 5D classic and get 5DII or better to ditch my 1DIII and go with 1DmkIV?
WOW! EXCELLENT IDEA! DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT! THE PRESSURE IS ON NOW.:D

[J_TULLAR]

Hot weather
High Humidity
No rains
No clouds [rarely every year we can see]
Traffic
Small country
Architecture and sturcture are not that so lovely and disappearing of historical places as the government demolish a lot of old and historical places to build new like-plastic city
What else i can say

Even with what we have already and i go to photograph it will not make my living or get paid me.

I agree it is most difficult to get creative in the middle east, sucks even worse when you see the same shots from other photogs in the area. But you just got keep trucking along and get creative, think outside of the box. One thing most people dont realize also is that you cant just take a bikini clad girl in the middle of the streets in the middle east without getting in huge trouble. I feel your pain, I have a hassy 39mp with 80/300 lense at work and sits there all day collecting dust too.

[Tareq]

I agree it is most difficult to get creative in the middle east, sucks even worse when you see the same shots from other photogs in the area. But you just got keep trucking along and get creative, think outside of the box. One thing most people dont realize also is that you cant just take a bikini clad girl in the middle of the streets in the middle east without getting in huge trouble. I feel your pain, I have a hassy 39mp with 80/300 lense at work and sits there all day collecting dust too.

In all cases i will not give up, also i will not die to have perfect photography for others, i should enjoy myself and one day on time i may do a surprise!

[RiaGurl]

what is perfect? i have seen some awesome black and white shots that look like you shot it at iso 25000 or something, that i would hang up on the wall, before i hang up an ultra sharp super saturated image.

[Tareq]

what is perfect? i have seen some awesome black and white shots that look like you shot it at iso 25000 or something, that i would hang up on the wall, before i hang up an ultra sharp super saturated image.

You people know about art more than us, what is a masterpiece or an art for you we may see it just nothing more than a snapshot or not good enough, believe me, many people here will look at that ultra sharp super saturated image more than a noisy grain B&W.

As i said, i think from next year i should think about photography different way, since last 4 years i didn't see i did something exceptional in photography really, i am wasting time while others are going up and improving so unbelievable.

[RiaGurl]

if you sell your gear, give me a pm. :D

[Tareq]

if you sell your gear, give me a pm. :D

I may sell my gear if i do nothing in photography with 2-3 upcoming years later

[RiaGurl]

what is your profession, did you say? just wondering.

[Tareq]

what is your profession, did you say? just wondering.

Civil Engineer

[Dooms_day]

I dont see the use of 60MP unless you're photographing from SO far away and need to see such a WIDE ammount of stuff...space photography would be the only example i could think of.

[RiaGurl]

well i was wondering the same. most people shooting with 60mp, are doing advertising stuff, that mostly ends up on letter size pages anyway...so ya...i don't know what the real point is. even billboards can be done with a 6mp camera. the viewing distance is usually so far, you would not discern the lower res.

[Bob_A]

You people know about art more than us, what is a masterpiece or an art for you we may see it just nothing more than a snapshot or not good enough, believe me, many people here will look at that ultra sharp super saturated image more than a noisy grain B&W.

As i said, i think from next year i should think about photography different way, since last 4 years i didn't see i did something exceptional in photography really, i am wasting time while others are going up and improving so unbelievable.

You have some terrific images in your gallery Tareq.

[Tareq]

well i was wondering the same. most people shooting with 60mp, are doing advertising stuff, that mostly ends up on letter size pages anyway...so ya...i don't know what the real point is. even billboards can be done with a 6mp camera. the viewing distance is usually so far, you would not discern the lower res.

True, and because of that i buy any camera even so high resolution, because if some photographers getting 39, 50, 60,... and they don't print billboard or so large prints that often then why they bought those cameras, i have a feeling it is just an issue of affordable, they can afford those cameras to play with so why not, doesn't matter we always have to have least camera that can do the job.

You have some terrific images in your gallery Tareq.

Thank you very much!
It isn't updated since long time ago, i have more great images to add but i didn't do yet.

[Dooms_day]

not to mention the expense of printing a billboard with all 60 million dots

[RiaGurl]

not to mention the expense of printing a billboard with all 60 million dots
i don't get this? i dont think they charge you by the dot. nor do i think they print by the dot, like it would be cheaper if you gave them a 3mp image vs. a 12 mp image.

[Tareq]

i don't get this? i dont think they charge you by the dot. nor do i think they print by the dot, like it would be cheaper if you gave them a 3mp image vs. a 12 mp image.

True, they charge by the size and paper type you want whatever camera is used, so 6mp is equal to 60mp for the same printing size.

[blackhawk]

Inertia focusing system... about time we had a guided AF.