First Serious E-Shoot: Erin + Mitchel

[Marloon]

Limited myself to only natural lighting + 5DMkII + 35L

Learned a couple of things.
- need to bring a huge reflector next time
- need to bring a 3 stop ND filter
- Both i have to buy. LOL
- 85mm f1.8 doesnt cut it - sell both copies

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_8kmPwYzNa_s/SsF5-jne7YI/AAAAAAAAAM4/L_sywBpZkVs/s800/IMG_6857.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_8kmPwYzNa_s/SsF6hEvlLPI/AAAAAAAAANM/_rJBY_Cv2hQ/s800/IMG_6888.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_8kmPwYzNa_s/SsF6ujXjXgI/AAAAAAAAANQ/wcbAnJWetIk/s800/IMG_6892.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_8kmPwYzNa_s/SsF3S2acu4I/AAAAAAAAALc/K0IuVQ0DUJo/s800/IMG_6753.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_8kmPwYzNa_s/SsF7O9B8FYI/AAAAAAAAANg/sYqKQoZKOFc/s800/IMG_6925.jpg

HARSH C&C WELCOMED!

[J.Bat]

The PP seems awkward to me for an E-Session.

[Kyle Gibson]

I'm curious, why didn't the 85mm work for you?

[Marloon]

The PP seems awkward to me for an E-Session.

Thanks for your input! :D

[Marloon]

I'm curious, why didn't the 85mm work for you?

the 85mm f1.8 didnt give me the FOV or the blurred DOF that i wanted. i wanted to catch the wide as well as their up close reaction. a 50L makes more sense to me now that i tried the 85mm length. i realized that i really want and need the 1.2 aperture to achieve the shots that i want.

-Marlon

[MelonieDawn]

dofmaster.com great site! itll help you get the perfect DOF for almost any camera/ lens

or the fstop app on an iphone/ ipod touch if you have one

[viet]

Get proper exposure & learn to control light first, be it natural or flash. I doubt you'd get any different results with a different lens.

[Marloon]

Get proper exposure & learn to control light first, be it natural or flash. I doubt you'd get any different results with a different lens.

do they look underexposed to you? this is stuff i need to know.

[Marloon]

So since people didnt like the PP, i've re-pped again... and here they are. please tell me if you guys find them underexposed and what not (i am working on hardware calibrated monitors so they look fine to me).

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_8kmPwYzNa_s/SsLBf74FJPI/AAAAAAAAAOI/ZhBC8DJgMtE/s800/IMG_6857.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_8kmPwYzNa_s/SsLBgLac53I/AAAAAAAAAOM/lbY4CILmLEY/s800/IMG_6888.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_8kmPwYzNa_s/SsLBglTQwzI/AAAAAAAAAOQ/TupXV5GeEHQ/s800/IMG_6892.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_8kmPwYzNa_s/SsLBfmwTEYI/AAAAAAAAAOE/LvVcqNNdnVY/s800/IMG_6925.jpg

C&C welcomed. :D

[Amorous]

I like the second PP better. The first PP had too much purple. I don't think the shots are underexposed, but there are harsh shadow on some shots. I don't think you need a "big" reflector either. Just an external flash like 580 EX II or 430 EX II will take care of the harsh shadow.

There is nothing wrong with 85mm f/1.8 lens. It's a very fine lens. You just need to have the right combination of aperture and distance (camera to subject, and subject to background). I used 85mm (don't have it any more) for this shot. The bokeh is very creamy, and I don't think you can get any better than this.

http://kaitcilla.smugmug.com/photos/86948713_WQiKK-L.jpg

[Marloon]

I like the second PP better. The first PP had too much purple. I don't think the shots are underexposed, but there are harsh shadow on some shots. I don't think you need a "big" reflector either. Just an external flash like 580 EX II or 430 EX II will take care of the harsh shadow.

There is nothing wrong with 85mm f/1.8 lens. It's a very fine lens. You just need to have the right combination of aperture and distance (camera to subject, and subject to background). I used 85mm (don't have it any more) for this shot. The bokeh is very creamy, and I don't think you can get any better than this.

http://kaitcilla.smugmug.com/photos/86948713_WQiKK-L.jpg

thanks for your input. i guess ill use my 85mm f1.8 more and more. i'll give it a try. im waiting for it to get sold... i have 2 copies of it, i took the best copy. ill keep it for events as its AF is faster than the 1.2 version.

[viet]

do they look underexposed to you? this is stuff i need to know.

I wouldn't say you under exposed them, but your exposures are very inconsistent due to different lightings of the location you picked for their shots.

Learn to get comfortable enough with flash to supplement or completely take over control of your lighting situation, that way you are always in control and not left to the mercy of the sun.

Also watch for the background, too cluttered or too busy will make your subjects appeared lost.

Learn your gear, and keep reminding yourself to get everything right in the camera, and use post processing as a way to enhance your photographs, not to correct mistakes you make. The way I see it with photography, is that it'll be a bad picture no matter how much processing you apply if it was bad to begin with. I hope this helps.

[Marloon]

I wouldn't say you under exposed them, but your exposures are very inconsistent due to different lightings of the location you picked for their shots.

Learn to get comfortable enough with flash to supplement or completely take over control of your lighting situation, that way you are always in control and not left to the mercy of the sun.

Also watch for the background, too cluttered or too busy will make your subjects appeared lost.

Learn your gear, and keep reminding yourself to get everything right in the camera, and use post processing as a way to enhance your photographs, not to correct mistakes you make. The way I see it with photography, is that it'll be a bad picture no matter how much processing you apply if it was bad to begin with. I hope this helps.

thanks for the tips. this definitely helps...

i had ALL of my lights on me but never used them at that time, but ill be using them next time. I went to review my photos once again, and i definitely see what you mean. Thanks for your tips.

[AlanU]

How did the couple like the colour rendition? Are you trying to create oldschool film stock look?

People may love or hate the PP. I tend to appreciate some flavour from presets from LR or your own unique blend. The PP you've used is not subtle for an E session. In most cases I like to see true colour rendition as well as some colour deveation from the real world. Even tweeking a colour path may create some neat shots. I see you use alot of desaturation in majority of your photos. To me your defeating the purpose of the excellent colour rendition the 35L achieves.

Marlon how would you trigger your non Canon flashes? Fill flash may help "pop" the subject(s).

Using your 85 f/1.8 is similar to a 50mm on a crop body. You could have created similar photos being a tad further from your couple compared to using the 35L. The 85mm is a wicked lens on a FF or crop body. Some of the photos you've taken you must have been very close (or your cropped alot). Some may find this invasion of space so this is where an 85mm would give more breathing room between you and the couple. You could have created similar FOV using your 70-200 with creamier bokeh. (just looked at your gearlist...good grief you sold your 70-200 didn't you??)

Using a 50L at f/1.2 aperature with couples wont be the best solution if you intend to get both in focus up close. If your talking about the bokeh the 50L is king compared to the very good 35L.

[Jackie8o4]

I like the second PP better. The first PP had too much purple. I don't think the shots are underexposed, but there are harsh shadow on some shots. I don't think you need a "big" reflector either. Just an external flash like 580 EX II or 430 EX II will take care of the harsh shadow.

There is nothing wrong with 85mm f/1.8 lens. It's a very fine lens. You just need to have the right combination of aperture and distance (camera to subject, and subject to background). I used 85mm (don't have it any more) for this shot. The bokeh is very creamy, and I don't think you can get any better than this.

http://kaitcilla.smugmug.com/photos/86948713_WQiKK-L.jpg


Do you remember what f-stop you used for this photo?

[Marloon]

thanks for the great c&c. I always appreciate your c&cs on my posts. It definitely helps!!!! I hope to see your c&cs again on my next posting coming up.

How did the couple like the colour rendition? Are you trying to create oldschool film stock look?

People may love or hate the PP. I tend to appreciate some flavour from presets from LR or your own unique blend. The PP you've used is not subtle for an E session. In most cases I like to see true colour rendition as well as some colour deveation from the real world. Even tweeking a colour path may create some neat shots. I see you use alot of desaturation in majority of your photos. To me your defeating the purpose of the excellent colour rendition the 35L achieves.

Marlon how would you trigger your non Canon flashes? Fill flash may help "pop" the subject(s).

Using your 85 f/1.8 is similar to a 50mm on a crop body. You could have created similar photos being a tad further from your couple compared to using the 35L. The 85mm is a wicked lens on a FF or crop body. Some of the photos you've taken you must have been very close (or your cropped alot). Some may find this invasion of space so this is where an 85mm would give more breathing room between you and the couple. You could have created similar FOV using your 70-200 with creamier bokeh. (just looked at your gearlist...good grief you sold your 70-200 didn't you??)

Using a 50L at f/1.2 aperature with couples wont be the best solution if you intend to get both in focus up close. If your talking about the bokeh the 50L is king compared to the very good 35L.