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apple
30th of May 2005 (Mon), 13:57
This shot was taken the last time the Yankees came to Kaufman Stadium.

The batter had already rolled the first strike bunt foul down the 3rd baseline. The second strike bunt was popped up foul on the 1st base side. This last chance bunt dribbled to the pitcher whose only play was at first. Man on 2nd went to third on the sacrifice.

My brother-in-law uses the photo to show his little league players how it's not done.

My question is what is the call if the ball hits homeplate then the bat??

Photo taken with 300D with the kit lens. All C @ C appreciated

Alan B
30th of May 2005 (Mon), 14:14
:confused: I read and re-read what you put.And i still dont get what your on about(with the rules)sorry :rolleyes: .

Still its a good shot of not what to do :cool:

gmen
30th of May 2005 (Mon), 14:21
I'm flabbergasted! Why did the guy bunt??

Er... second thoughts... what is actually happening here??

I've read the description of what's going on and, like Alan says, I'm none the wiser... sorry!

Give me cricket any day *lol*

apple
30th of May 2005 (Mon), 14:43
Okay..
Rookie up to bat. He is TOLD to lay down a sacrifice bunt by the manager. He screwed up the first two attempts and instead of pulling back the bat and taking a ball, he attemted the third try at a bunt. A bunt foul is a third strike so it was a pretty stupid (in my opinion) thing to try.

My question is this-- If the pitched ball hits homeplate BEFORE any contact, then the batter bunts the ball fair what is the call? is it a ball? is it a hit or what? That is not what happened (I think) but what if it did?

tucked
30th of May 2005 (Mon), 15:45
Hey apple...

I guess if you spend enough time at "the K" we can get alot of what "not to do" pictures of the Royals.

fslshooter
3rd of June 2005 (Fri), 07:56
My question is this-- If the pitched ball hits homeplate BEFORE any contact, then the batter bunts the ball fair what is the call? is it a ball? is it a hit or what? That is not what happened (I think) but what if it did?

It should be ruled a ball. If the pitched ball hits the ground or home plate before it crosses the home plate plane the correct call is ball.

MazerRakhm
3rd of June 2005 (Fri), 08:02
It should be ruled a ball. If the pitched ball hits the ground or home plate before it crosses the home plate plane the correct call is ball.

I thought bunting was techically a swing so he would still be called third strike and out? ???

I'll have to find an expert...

DavidEB
3rd of June 2005 (Fri), 08:26
I agree with Mazer -- regardless of whether the pitch is a ball, if the batter swings or offers a bunt, it's a strike. For the same reason, if a batter swings at an out-of-zone ball and hits a foul, it's a strike.

Personally I don't think a sac bunt to advance the runner from 2nd to 3rd is ever warranted. Just my opinion, though.

Gerdav43
3rd of June 2005 (Fri), 09:33
Personally I don't think a sac bunt to advance the runner from 2nd to 3rd is ever warranted. Just my opinion, though.


Unless of course you are tied or down by one with one or no outs. Then a single or a fly out will score the run. Truly depends on the situation. GO PHILLIES (we're on a roll):D

I put the last sentence in to attract all sorts of abuse. I enjoy it. I've been a fan since the 70's. How much can your abuse hurt. I've endured the PHILLIES for three decades.:mad:

apple
3rd of June 2005 (Fri), 18:40
Thanks for the replies.
I'm a Yankees fan in Royals territory so this week has been rather hard on me. A sweep by the Royals--whooda thunk it.

I must admit that I really chimped after getting this shot. Everybody around me couldn't believe that what they thought they saw actually happened. That shot earned me a beer and a bag of peanuts. Does that make me a PRO!???:lol:

dkord
3rd of June 2005 (Fri), 19:16
Well, if he advanced the runner, he got the job done.
Maybe there's less then 2 outs and the Manager is playing for a run? Otherwise it's a unexpected strategy.
About the question, I think if the ball hits the ground before reaching the its ruled a ball. If it crosses the front of the plate and he misses it's a strike. But if that bat touches the plate then he could be called out.
I'm no Ump but I think that's how the ruling goes.

That shot earned me a beer and a bag of peanuts. Does that make me a PRO!

hehe for what the ballparks charge? Yes!

fslshooter
3rd of June 2005 (Fri), 20:15
My question is this-- If the pitched ball hits homeplate BEFORE any contact, then the batter bunts the ball fair what is the call? is it a ball? is it a hit or what? That is not what happened (I think) but what if it did?

Please forgive my earlier reply -- I didn't answer the question. Here's the skinny:

A ball is a pitch which does not enter the strike zone in flight and is not struck at by the batter. If the pitch touches the ground or home plate then bounces through the strike zone it is a ball. If the batter hits the ball with his bat and the ball goes into fair territory then the ball is in play. If the batter swings and misses or commits to a bunt and does not put the ball into play then it's a strike.

The correct answer to this question is that he put the ball into play. Whether or not it was a hit depends on what happened after that.