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heyimnick
15th of October 2009 (Thu), 07:49
Do you think it would be a smart move by Canon? Personally, I would love to see it.

muusers
15th of October 2009 (Thu), 08:01
I dont see how a name for a cameraserie relates to the making of a whole new series of lenses, and downgrading the "L" designation.

For me, the fact that a EF-s lens can't be used on ALL eos-camera's is enough to NOT assign the 'L'.

majipoor
15th of October 2009 (Thu), 09:24
I think the only reason to produce EF-S lenses is to be able to offer some cheaper options to crop owners which are mostly reluctant to spend too much $ on lenses. It is easier (= cheaper) to design a lens for a small sensor.

I don't see the need to have EF-S L lenses: EF L lenses can be used on any DSLR and you just need to take the crop factor into account to make your choice. It would be a silly decision IMHO.

Lisa
15th of October 2009 (Thu), 09:29
I think the only reason to produce EF-S lenses is to be able to offer some cheaper options to crop owners which are mostly reluctant to spend too much $ on lenses. It is easier (= cheaper) to design a lens for a small sensor.

I don't see the need to have EF-S L lenses: EF L lenses can be used on any DSLR and you just need to take the crop factor into account to make your choice. It would be a silly decision IMHO.

Mostly, But you need to take into account the 17-55mm 2.8 IS. It costs the same as some L's.

TeamSpeed
15th of October 2009 (Thu), 09:31
Good threads on this topic already, here is one: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=650967&highlight=why+efs

Basically no, EFS won't be labeled as L.

heyimnick
15th of October 2009 (Thu), 12:41
I dont see how a name for a cameraserie relates to the making of a whole new series of lenses, and downgrading the "L" designation.

For me, the fact that a EF-s lens can't be used on ALL eos-camera's is enough to NOT assign the 'L'.

Because Canon is stepping up their game with the 1.6s. Why wouldn't they make higher quality EF-S lenses for higher quality APS-C cameras? Just a though.

ed rader
15th of October 2009 (Thu), 12:48
Because Canon is stepping up their game with the 1.6s. Why wouldn't they make higher quality EF-S lenses for higher quality APS-C cameras? Just a though.

price. plus do you need weathersealed lenses on minimally sealed cameras?

ed rader

timnosenzo
15th of October 2009 (Thu), 12:49
Do you think it would be a smart move by Canon?

Not really, but no one knows for sure if they will ever do it. I mean, they claimed the Pro1 had an L lens. :rolleyes:

400193

Lisa
15th of October 2009 (Thu), 12:49
Because Canon is stepping up their game with the 1.6s. Why wouldn't they make higher quality EF-S lenses for higher quality APS-C cameras? Just a though.

Why should they? The price would be about the same and only 1.6 crop bodies could use it.

Lisa
15th of October 2009 (Thu), 12:52
Not really, but no one knows for sure if they will ever do it. I mean, they claimed the Pro1 had an L lens. :rolleyes:


Fixed lenses are a different story.

heyimnick
15th of October 2009 (Thu), 14:47
price. plus do you need weathersealed lenses on minimally sealed cameras?

ed rader

I thought the 7D was weathersealed? Hmm, research might be off lol.

TeamSpeed
15th of October 2009 (Thu), 14:56
I thought the 7D was weathersealed? Hmm, research might be off lol.

It is better sealed, but how much is better is yet to be determined.

KenjiS
16th of October 2009 (Fri), 02:20
Because Canon is stepping up their game with the 1.6s. Why wouldn't they make higher quality EF-S lenses for higher quality APS-C cameras? Just a though.

They already did, the 15-85 is MUCH higher quality build-wise than the older ones

My guess is there will be some higher end EF-S optics, We're going to see a few more like the 17-55/15-85 [Maybe a really nice upgrade to the 10-22..and maybe another prime or two]

EF-S stuff to me is going to replace Canon's upper end consumer tier...lenses like the 28-135 and that..

fi20100
16th of October 2009 (Fri), 02:48
No EF-S L lenses... ever. The L lenses will always be usable on all EOS dSLR cameras.

toxic
16th of October 2009 (Fri), 02:59
Weathersealing isn't an "L" requirement...only certain, newer lenses have it.

I think there'll be more high-end EF-S lenses, they just won't be labeled "L".

lowcrust
16th of October 2009 (Fri), 15:32
Not really, but no one knows for sure if they will ever do it. I mean, they claimed the Pro1 had an L lens. :rolleyes:

400193

Is that thing for real? I've never seen it before.

/*off to wikipedia!*

tkbslc
16th of October 2009 (Fri), 15:53
Because Canon is stepping up their game with the 1.6s. Why wouldn't they make higher quality EF-S lenses for higher quality APS-C cameras? Just a though.

They do have some higher quality EF-S lenses, they just don't call them L.


17-55
60 f2.8
15-85 (supposedly)
10-22.

I think the bigger problem is people who think a lens has to be L to be good enough for them. Optically, the 17-55, 60 f2.8 and 10-22 are as good as their L counterparts on FF.

czeglin
16th of October 2009 (Fri), 16:29
I don't see the need to have EF-S L lenses: EF L lenses can be used on any DSLR and you just need to take the crop factor into account to make your choice. It would be a silly decision IMHO.
Exactly. 1.6 is a pretty darn large crop factor! If they made a crop equivalent of the 70-200 f/2.8 IS I would be all over it. The 70-200 is a bit long for me as-is and definitely heavier than it needs to be. Even the primes don't necessarily translate well. There is undoubtedly less value in a TS-E 17mm on a crop than on a FF. You're forced to pay for a huge image circle that you're not even using. There isn't a crop equivalent (10-11mm).

CyberDyneSystems
16th of October 2009 (Fri), 16:31
All the current L series already are "for" the Crop cameras....

they just happen to fit old Film cameras too.

frankchn
18th of October 2009 (Sun), 10:08
Even the primes don't necessarily translate well. There is undoubtedly less value in a TS-E 17mm on a crop than on a FF. You're forced to pay for a huge image circle that you're not even using. There isn't a crop equivalent (10-11mm).

If you are going to use a L TS-E lens, you probably care enough about image quality (and/or rich enough) to get a FF camera go on along with it.

W.r.t. the 70-200, what about the Tokina 50-135mm f/2.8 Pro DX AF?

Stealthy Ninja
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 02:26
Weathersealing isn't an "L" requirement...only certain, newer lenses have it.

I think there'll be more high-end EF-S lenses, they just won't be labeled "L".

Agreed.