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Lore
15th of October 2009 (Thu), 20:36
This game is to help those of us who are trying to learn new tricks when it comes to editing.

Here's the breakdown of the game. I will post a picture that I choose, resized to exactly 1024 pixels maximum on the long side. Outside of being resized it has to be unedited...meaning no adjustments to any levels, it has to look like it did as it came out of the camera.

The game will last 72hrs and whoever can produce the best edited image (as judged by me) will be picked and it'll be their turn to post their unedited picture for all of us to take a crack at.

The participants must have their "Image Editing OK" turned on and they must provide at least a simple breakdown of how they edited the image, some entrants are a little vague on this point, please give us all details so we can learn and share tips. For instance if you use the unsharp mask tool or Smart Sharpen, provide us with the adjustments you used so others can try them out.

You can post multiple images, but the first image you post will be the one that is judged - all other images will be considered for knowledge and tip use only.

Also, please keep all comments, be they positive or negative, to yourself until after the game has ended.

If you happen to be the winner of the game please start the next one with the title of the game and the following number. For example…the next game should read "Before & After #228".

This is all about having fun so have at it!!!

Contest ends 12 Noon on Monday the 19th.
2336x3504 img - http://www.eideticmemories.com/ba227lg.jpg
http://www.eideticmemories.com/ba227sm.jpg

Data
17th of October 2009 (Sat), 19:08
Photoshop CS4

Healing Brush over few skin blemishes
Copy Layer x2
Set top layer to Screen
Merged down
Copy Layer again
Gaussian Blur
Set Layer to Multiply

Light Room 2.5
Adjustment Brush -Exposure on the dress just to bring some detail back

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2480/4020911712_8fa6e5a8fa_b.jpg

NigelD
18th of October 2009 (Sun), 10:58
Duplicated background. Used threshold for black white and grey point and adjusted levels. LAB mode colour boost. New layer, fill 50% grey and selectively darken and lighten eyes, teeth and dress
Crop
High pass filter to sharpen. Flatten and post

marcoj70
18th of October 2009 (Sun), 12:20
Camera RAW: recover highlights, adjust skin tones, vignetting
PS:
select background to new layer: gaussian blur
select head and arms to new layer: heal skin imperfections
copy layer: recover skin shadows
copy layer: gaussian blur; mask with picture itself, tweak mask with curves and then with dodge and burn to retain details.
on the whole picture: desaturate greens

Timphoto
18th of October 2009 (Sun), 18:42
Opened in Camera Raw 5.4
Temperature +2, Tint -8 (adjustment to minimize blown highlights on dress)
Recovery 76, Fill 35, Vibrance +12
Opened in CS4
Some dodging and burning.
Selected and adjusted background for hue, saturation.
Copied background layer, Fliter - Blur - Gaussian Blur, layer mask, selected bride, applied at about 30% opacity.
A little Liquify filter and some healing brush applied to the underarm area.


http://tjb.smugmug.com/photos/684960000_xRqX2-X2.jpg

Brett
18th of October 2009 (Sun), 22:12
I hate saying what I did to the image; it makes it sound like I have any clue what I'm doing.
But, here goes:

Curves adjustment layer
Solid color adjustment layer light tan/yellow, lowered opacity
SCAL, dark blue, lowered opacity
Curves again
Burn dress to attempt to recover blown highlights (largely unsuccessful), other burning on flowers and elsewhere
Dodge face and some shadows
SCAL for contrast enhancement: black, soft light, lower opacity
Skin smoothing and re-touching, see here: http://www.christyschuler.com/retouching.swf
A few other things I tried; some were rejected and some kept, not sure which. Definitely burned the BG some.
Vignette
Re-size
Sharpen slightly.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd305/frickindeal/ba227lg_edit.jpg

monty28428
18th of October 2009 (Sun), 23:06
ACR - wb, exposure and highlights reduction
CS3 - crop, usm 20,60,0, clone stamp texture into blown out areas on chest, blur/clone tool on white background, duplicate layer + blur + mask.

givtu
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 07:09
Here's my version:
Healing Brush & Clone tool on face
Dupe layer & dodge eyes, dodge/burn/saturate eyes, add catch light, then mask to show only eyes
Dodging shadowy areas on face
Shadow/Highlight, then apply image with soft light w/mask to recover highlights
Whiten teeth with selective color
Soften facial skin with dupe layer, high pass, invert, overlay, then mask off for facial skin only
Glow effect: dupe layer, gauss 20, overlay, curves to tone up shadows and tone down highlights
Soft focus effect: Dupe original layer, gauss 20, reduce opacity to 30%, mask to remove effect from eyes, nose, mouth
Sharpen (self-made action) too many steps to list, but basically masking edges and using unsharp mask.
Vignette using lasso tool, feather, dupe, color burn
http://www.garvinworks.com/images/potn/contest.jpg

spitfire23bc
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 08:12
GIMP:
Duplicated layer twice, screen mode on upper, merge down
Duplicated this, multiply mode, Gaussian blur radius 100, merge down
Duplicated again(!), played with channel mixer to greyscale
Masked out flowers on B+W layer
Blurred layer beneath, set to colour mode
Vignette, 20% opacity
Resized to 1024px

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1901289/ba227_edit.jpg

Lore
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 13:32
Sorry for the delay, had to rake the leaves :rolleyes:... I'm exausted... so... sorry for the lack of individual lore c&c I have 10 mins to relax and drink water before I have to go pick up my kiddos from school....

marcoj70 takes this round - you best took care of what I found what most took away from this photo & that was the heavy shadows in her eyes... live & learn... pay attention to that sun :rolleyes: I also even like the desaturated background & over all look... my husband said she looked plastic... I personally didnt think so... ;)

Anywho, great job everyone... I look forward to 228 marco, take it away :cool:

Camera RAW: recover highlights, adjust skin tones, vignetting
PS:
select background to new layer: gaussian blur
select head and arms to new layer: heal skin imperfections
copy layer: recover skin shadows
copy layer: gaussian blur; mask with picture itself, tweak mask with curves and then with dodge and burn to retain details.
on the whole picture: desaturate greens

spitfire23bc
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 14:14
Nice job marcoj70. Good work everyone.

Data - great minds think alike... inspiration from Digital Photography School?

Data
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 15:52
Congratulations marcoj70. Nice job!

spitfire23bc, I got the idea from another forum though was not Digital Photography School. Just the way recent discussions there have gone. :)

Everyone, Nice entries, Well done all :)

NigelD
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 16:13
Nice edit marcoj70. Good job everyone.

monty28428
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 17:17
Congrats marco!!

Well done everybody!

Kendoway
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 17:26
Marco - great job and congrats! Super entries everyone.

I totally got hung up on this one (for no reason at all), as I really wanted to remove the shadow under her nose. I tried EVERY TRICK I knew (spot healing, cloning, patching) to try and remove that shadow and just couldn't pull it off. Every time, I'd end up with something that just didn't look natural - but I'd be curious to see how a professional would tackle that task (if they would even try at all).

It's a great shot Lore, and you did a nice save even with bright mid-day sun to work with.

Here's the "shadow mustache" I couldn't get rid of :(

http://i34.tinypic.com/izyn3s.jpg

monty28428
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 17:54
Fill flash :-)

spitfire23bc
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 18:26
I totally got hung up on this one (for no reason at all), as I really wanted to remove the shadow under her nose. I tried EVERY TRICK I knew (spot healing, cloning, patching) to try and remove that shadow and just couldn't pull it off. Every time, I'd end up with something that just didn't look natural - but I'd be curious to see how a professional would tackle that task (if they would even try at all).

Kendoway, now that you've pointed that out, it's become glaringly obvious in all of the pictures, it completely draws my attention and is irritating me no end - ARG! :rolleyes:

Kendoway
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 20:45
Fill flash :-)

Yeah maybe Monty.

With 100% blow out daylight, I probably wouldn't think to use a flash - but then again, I'm not a wedding photographer kinda guy.


Spitfire - I noticed it right off the bat, which is one of the real disadvantages of shooting in mid-day sun. Even if I could successfully remove the shadow, it doesn't mean it would look right (she's got a shadow under her neck and other portions of her face), so any re-touch might end up looking too odd.

Anyhow, cheers :D

monty28428
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 21:01
Broad daylight is the best time to use fill flash IMHO.

Brett
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 21:45
Congrats marco!
You really did do a good job of lifting the shadows on the face. Nicely done without overdoing it.

Nice edits everyone. :)

An assistant holding a reflector (gold works well in bright sunlight for its warming effect) could have prevented the shadows in the original shot, but I don't see many wedding photographers going to that trouble. It was a sunny day, and she'll remember it that way, so it's a fine shot anyway, IMO. :)

Timphoto
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 22:18
I was at a daytime wedding recently where the photographer used a reflector very effectively for exactly that reason. I have to admit though that I didn't notice the shadow under the nose until it was mentioned here. Oh well...

marcoj70
20th of October 2009 (Tue), 02:33
Thanks everyone!
About the conversation on shadows, you really have to start thinking of your flash as a fill tool, or more in general as a tool to improve the ambient light, and not only as your main light source.
In this case (outdoor, with no studio lights, and without a couple of people holding reflectors and light boxes), the only solution is really direct fill flash. However, when I shoot people at midday outdoors, I usually try to avoid doing it in the direct sun, and look for a nice shaded setting. If i can find a place where the subject gets indirect sun light reflected off a wall or floor, that's really good. Then I use fill flash (better if bounced) to compensate the darker subject areas against the lighter background.

Kendoway
20th of October 2009 (Tue), 08:59
Thanks for the advice on flash fills, quite helpful.

Lore
20th of October 2009 (Tue), 11:01
Marco - great job and congrats! Super entries everyone.

I totally got hung up on this one (for no reason at all), as I really wanted to remove the shadow under her nose. I tried EVERY TRICK I knew (spot healing, cloning, patching) to try and remove that shadow and just couldn't pull it off. Every time, I'd end up with something that just didn't look natural - but I'd be curious to see how a professional would tackle that task (if they would even try at all).

It's a great shot Lore, and you did a nice save even with bright mid-day sun to work with.

Here's the "shadow mustache" I couldn't get rid of

http://i34.tinypic.com/izyn3s.jpg

Fill flash :-)

I was at a daytime wedding recently where the photographer used a reflector very effectively for exactly that reason. I have to admit though that I didn't notice the shadow under the nose until it was mentioned here. Oh well...

;) I did notice the shadow stashe as well & in PP on the actual photo when I gave the 275 keepers in the end I ended up giving her, I shot her backyard wedding in June, it was my first time shooting anything that scale... will I EVER shoot weddings or be a wedding photog? NO not my bag... but for her sure thing, she knew going in I had never done them but was honored a friend captured her big day... and for free, cant beat it. My 30D & appropriate rented glass had fun.

Do I have a flash? Nope ;) Sunny Summer Wedding didnt figure I'd need one... DO *I* know better now & was shooting that wedding a big learning experience on light... YOU BET... I now have 2 reflectors & have been playing with light while shooting my children since & my next purchase will be a flash for sure, even BEFORE getting my 7D :eek: I decided to grab the glass I want and flash first... then I'll grab the 7D after.

Blah blah blah... drinking coffee & feeling chatty... :lol:

Anywho... this is a small sample of my PP on this photo & what was given to my friend... all the photos since it was a summer wedding had this same look to them , basically my own created LR action "Loreify" :cool: then individ editing in PS from there.

http://www.eideticmemories.com/IMG_8165.jpg

I now since June know more editing techinques than I did then... I would have done more about some of her face shadows... on her cheeks... in the end tho she loved them all so YAY.

hawkeye60
20th of October 2009 (Tue), 11:36
I didn't spend too much time on this but more time and effort and it could be done rather convincingly. ... mostly cloning and painting, some noise, a little smudging.

Kendoway
20th of October 2009 (Tue), 11:44
I shot her backyard wedding in June, it was my first time shooting anything that scale... will I EVER shoot weddings or be a wedding photog? NO not my bag... but for her sure thing, she knew going in I had never done them but was honored a friend captured her big day... and for free, cant beat it.

... in the end tho she loved them all so YAY.

I shot a friend's wedding in June for free (same as you - I told them up front I wasn't a pro) and it was a CRAZY amount of work! Shot about 2000 pics, of which about 180 were keepers. They loved the photos so much they gave me a check for $500. I'll never do it again though - just too nerve wracking.

Nice re-touch Hawkeye & Lore. I couldn't figure out how to remove that shadow!

monty28428
20th of October 2009 (Tue), 18:23
Nice job Lore -- I'm sure she was very pleased with your work!