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JPR Images
17th of October 2009 (Sat), 18:22
With several weeks of flashed football photography I think I am finally getting comfortable with it. I have been mounting my Canon 580 about 1.5' under my camera on the monopod and using a Canon battery pack with an off shoe cord. I am using a Canon 1DMIII with Sigma 120-300 f2.8 lens with the following settings: ETTL II on flash, ISO 800, 1/250 shutter speed and f2.8

http://jprimages.com/img/v2/p531720800-4.jpg

http://jprimages.com/img/v1/p500687635-4.jpg

http://jprimages.com/img/v4/p267348730-4.jpg

http://jprimages.com/img/v0/p20101531-4.jpg

Works well for band shots.

http://jprimages.com/img/v4/p442217344-4.jpg
warrior6901
17th of October 2009 (Sat), 19:32
These look very good. What kind of pp?

I am going to try this set up with my new 7D and my 70-200L. I had the flash on a bracket above the camera and get so much red eye. Hopefully the change in flash location will eliminate that problem.
JPR Images
17th of October 2009 (Sat), 19:58
I shoot jpegs and run them through Lightroom doing minor adjustments and some cropping. I try to do as little as possible because I am usually in a hurry to get photos processed and posted.
NicolasRubio
17th of October 2009 (Sat), 20:17
Those are some good shots! What about increasing the ISO and shooting at 1/300 or even ISO1600 for 1/500 (with HSS)? I see some blurry feet in some of them!
Cdellama
17th of October 2009 (Sat), 20:30
Very nice shots. I'm sure there are probably numerous threads regarding this but why can't you shoot with the flash mounted on the camera? What is the benefit of mounting it below or higher??? Thanks.
dave007007
17th of October 2009 (Sat), 20:54
Nice shots
JPR Images
17th of October 2009 (Sat), 21:04
With the 1DMarkIII the max sync speed is 1/300 but I like the exposure better at 250. I could use HS sync but it really does reduce the reach of the flash. I have not tried mounting the flash on the hot shoe because of the red eye problem that others have mentioned. Researching the different forums lead me to put together the set up I am using and for now I am pleased with it. That said I am always looking to improve my photography and reading these forums proves helpful. Thanks for the comments.
Dan-o
17th of October 2009 (Sat), 21:42
JPR I think Nicolas was being sarcastic. Very well done on these, great exposure.
str8six
17th of October 2009 (Sat), 21:54
How do you mount the flash to the monopod? I could see an advantage of it down there that it would open up the faces behind the cage. Thanks.

(great shots btw)
NicolasRubio
17th of October 2009 (Sat), 21:56
JPR I think Nicolas was being sarcastic. Very well done on these, great exposure.

I wasn't, I just didn't know that HSS reduced the reach of the flash! :D
asysin2leads
17th of October 2009 (Sat), 22:16
Here's a good little read about normal sync speed vs. HSS.

Linky Here (http://webs.lanset.com/rcochran/flash/hss.html)
jmorales
17th of October 2009 (Sat), 22:35
Very nice shots for evening FB. How did you mount the flash to the monopod? Did you create a custom mount of bought one?
NicolasRubio
17th of October 2009 (Sat), 22:57
Here's a good little read about normal sync speed vs. HSS.

Linky Here (http://webs.lanset.com/rcochran/flash/hss.html)

That was a very interesting read, thank you!
asysin2leads
17th of October 2009 (Sat), 23:14
That was a very interesting read, thank you!

You're welcome. I found it interesting as well. I thought that HSS would be more effective, too.
JPR Images
18th of October 2009 (Sun), 08:22
Here are some photos of my set up. I have made one minor change in that I now reverse the bracket and have the flash pointed down which allows the off shoe cord to be closer to the camera and the flashhead further away.

http://jprimages.com/img/v0/p1024809814-3.jpg

http://jprimages.com/img/v0/p622974597-3.jpg

http://jprimages.com/img/v3/p858696565-3.jpg

http://jprimages.com/img/v0/p798824204-3.jpg
NVcameraman
18th of October 2009 (Sun), 15:46
This is how I mount my flash to the monopod. It is a cheap $2 L bracket from Lowes with a hose clamp holding it to the shaft
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3063/3043124765_e77ab5dcf3_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3017/3043126751_bd1ab74171_b.jpg
DDCSD
18th of October 2009 (Sun), 15:51
Very nice shots. I'm sure there are probably numerous threads regarding this but why can't you shoot with the flash mounted on the camera? What is the benefit of mounting it below or higher??? Thanks.


You get really nasty red eye in your shots at longer distances with flash. The further you get the flash away from the lens, the less red-eye you have to deal with.
DDCSD
18th of October 2009 (Sun), 15:53
Tremendous shots JPR. Some of the better flashes football shots I've ever seen.

How far over ambient were you? The stands and field are really bright (not in a bad way, just looks like there's a lot of ambient).
str8six
18th of October 2009 (Sun), 16:21
Well done guys (flash mounting). thanks for sharing.
Cdellama
18th of October 2009 (Sun), 22:54
You get really nasty red eye in your shots at longer distances with flash. The further you get the flash away from the lens, the less red-eye you have to deal with.

Thanks for the info!
JPR Images
19th of October 2009 (Mon), 16:38
Tremendous shots JPR. Some of the better flashes football shots I've ever seen.

How far over ambient were you? The stands and field are really bright (not in a bad way, just looks like there's a lot of ambient).

I am generally looking for two to three stops. Usually ISO 800, 1/250, and f2.8 works out to about right on the fields I have shot on so far.