so.. what happend to the 60d ?

[BS~forever]

there were alot of rumors about a 60d, are they still going to make one cuz im starting to feel like i need an upgrade but im not ready for a 7d

[apersson850]

No worries, it's still cooking, just not ready for the plate quite yet.

[Marloon]

relax... itll have lots of megapickles for your liking.

http://waxturds.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/pickle2co.jpg

[nphsbuckeye]

It'll be here soon enough.

[mutau052]

there were alot of rumors about a 60d, are they still going to make one cuz im starting to feel like i need an upgrade but im not ready for a 7d

Why don't you upgrade your glass first. Your camera is just fine.

[BS~forever]

Why don't you upgrade your glass first. Your camera is just fine.
yea im still deciding on what lens to get first lol :P im leaning towards the 17-55 cuz i'm really getting bored from my kit lens :(

[mutau052]

yea im still deciding on what lens to get first lol :P im leaning towards the 17-55 cuz i'm really getting bored from my kit lens :(

I think most here would tell you to get a 50 f/1.8 first, I use my 50 more than any other lens.

[BS~forever]

I think most here would tell you to get a 50 f/1.8 first, I use my 50 more than any other lens.
yea im getting that real soon, so are u ever gonna upgrade to FF ? i think ill just stop at xxD or a 7dMkii lol

[mutau052]

nope, no need to go to FF, I do mostly travel-sports-portrait so i'm happy where i'm at. I wouldn't have bought the 50D if i just didn't need an extra body.

My 20D is my "do worry i'll grab my camera" body, and my Sigma 50 1.4 i choose because it shares filters with the other two lenses, but i'm yet to actually pass filters around between them.

[BS~forever]

oh ok cool, so the xxD line is a very capable camera ? cuz i really feel like this ones is a childs toy :P ! its so light and plasticy

[ChioPhotography]

oh ok cool, so the xxD line is a very capable camera ? cuz i really feel like this ones is a childs toy :P ! its so light and plasticy


Ofcourse the xxD cameras are great. I've had 450D, it was fine but now that I've upgraded to 50D after 8 months, it feels so better :D

I suggest you to first get to know all about the camera like how and when to set something. After that, either sell the 500D and buy the 40D or save a little and get a 50D.


And about the 60D..Wait till the 20th october ;)
Since the 7D is close to the 50D, we can expect the 60D to be a 50D with video and less features than the 7D.

[Fidelity]

yea im still deciding on what lens to get first lol :P im leaning towards the 17-55 cuz i'm really getting bored from my kit lens :(

Just get the 17-55 and don't look back. It was the best move I ever made. No standard zoom is as sharp and versatile as the 17-55. It is even sharper than the 35L prime. And it has 3 stops of IS. It makes all your present and future 1.6x crop bodies (and you) better. I don't know why any serious photographer with a 1.6x crop body would be without one. I have used mine with a Rebel XT first, then a 40D and now a 50D.

[TSY87]

im new to the camera rumor game but is there any definitive proof that the 7D isnt in fact the "60D?"

It seems to me that the rumors of what the 60D was gonna be, turned out in the form of the 7D. It also seems like such a small gap between the 50D vs 7D that canon would be splitting hairs.

[krepta]

im new to the camera rumor game but is there any definitive proof that the 7D isnt in fact the "60D?"

It seems to me that the rumors of what the 60D was gonna be, turned out in the form of the 7D. It also seems like such a small gap between the 50D vs 7D that canon would be splitting hairs.To some extent, yes. There have been many discussions around here on this subject matter. There was a video released by Canon in which it was stated explicitly that the 7D is not a replacement for the 50D and is a brand new line of camera. Now, Canon has never explicitly mentioned that there will be a 60D, but by logical deduction from the statement they did provide, a 60D should come to existence at some point in the near future. Whether or not you take this as "proof" is up to you.

As far as the rumored specs are concerned, many people like to overhype upcoming cameras with specifications they wish for, even though often such specs are characteristic of higher-end models. More "professional" or semi-pro features have been desired for the xxD line for years, so it's nothing new, really. When you set expectations too high, you're bound to be disappointed. There is a big difference between rumors based off realistic expectations and rumors born out of pure fancy. Some rumors pinned the 5D Mark II to be a Full Frame 7D (of course, there was no 7D at the time, so I am speaking of the specs, not the camera), and those who believed this to be true we disappointed, even enraged. Those who were more conservative in their prediction welcomed the 5DII as it was. That's not to say it could not have been a little better here and there (e.g. the AF system), but that's another discussion beside the point.

[Fidelity]

It's puzzling to me that the current 7D is not the 60D. It is a natural progression of the xxD series. I don't know what they'd try to shoehorn in between the 50D and 7D both functionally and price-wise. I was hoping that the 7D would be a new cheaper 1.3x body. I wonder if Canon is transitioning to a single digit naming convention for all their bodies with updates being "Marks?"

[Stealthy Ninja]

Tomorrow = 60D mark my wurds! :lol:

[ssim]

My goodness, there seems to be alot of people in here that seem to have the inside track with Canon. I am more inclined to just wait and see what comes, whether that is tomorrow, next week or next month.

[Stealthy Ninja]

It's tomorrow because I had a minor thought about the 60D today. So it must be true.

[krepta]

It's puzzling to me that the current 7D is not the 60D. It is a natural progression of the xxD series. I don't know what they'd try to shoehorn in between the 50D and 7D both functionally and price-wise. I was hoping that the 7D would be a new cheaper 1.3x body. I wonder if Canon is transitioning to a single digit naming convention for all their bodies with updates being "Marks?"Here is my answer (previously posted):
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=8745923&postcount=8

[BS~forever]

Tomorrow = 60D mark my wurds! :lol:
:D:D:D

[amfoto1]

7D is not a replacement for the 50D. Canon has made this clear and they ain't about to give up the lucrative market niche around $1000-1200 where the 50D has been a popular contender.

The 7D is their first effort to compete more directly with the D300/300s in the $1600-1700 market niche. In other words it's Canon's first somewhat more pro-oriented APS-C camera. Canon has lacked such a camera and have been getting their collective butts kicked in this niche. In fact, it's as if Canon didn't even know this market segment existed until Nikon started exploiting it, probably most notably starting with their D200 intro. We'll just have to see how the 7D fares.... But it seems to have made a good start.

Eventually it's quite likely a 60D upgrade will supercede the 50D. We can only speculate what features it will have... You can bet that video will be one of them, though. WHen is another thing we can only guess at. Canon has updated this segment of their line-up approx. every 18 months. Whether adding the brand new segment above it will slow down that replacement/upgrade schedule or not... well, we can only guess.

[lowrider]

Both Krepta and amfoto1 have nailed it. Canon never played in the 7Ds field before, and needed an entrant. They needed to have a competitor for the D300s, and now they have one. As stated the 50D and the upcoming 60D is and will play in a different field.

Lou

[Gideon]

I'm just waiting for the 60D, upgrading from 450D...

I want the SDHC compatibility...

[krepta]

I'm just waiting for the 60D, upgrading from 450D...

I want the SDHC compatibility...The xxD line has been utilizing CF cards rather than SD cards. I don't see any reason for the 60D to change in that regard.

[TSY87]

I'm just waiting for the 60D, upgrading from 450D...

I want the SDHC compatibility...


im willing to bet the "60d" is going to use CF cards.


I'm still not 100% sold on the idea of a 60D but am definitely open to it. All i would really want is the AF system the 7d uses + the 100% viewfinder. I couldnt care less about video or more FPS, or even more MPs.

[krepta]

I'm still not 100% sold on the idea of a 60D but am definitely open to it. All i would really want is the AF system the 7d uses + the 100% viewfinder. I couldnt care less about video or more FPS, or even more MPs.If a 60D comes out, I can guarantee you it will not have the 7D's AF nor a 100% viewfinder. It might get an improved AF algorithm (over the 50D), but it's likely to retain the 9 AF points. I would like to see 11 AF points maybe. And it is also sure to have video. Whether it's all the video options like the 7D remains to be seen.

[Natural Images]

Be patient! 60D is on its way. Everybody expected the new camera to be a 60D but instead we got a 7D. Canon updated/incorporated so much that they decided to make a whole new class instead of following the old xxd series class. But like I said be patient, it'll come, most likely next year sometime. When it comes though I can guarantee it will inherit most of its features from the 40D/50D, I highly doubt they will incorporate anything new that's of any value (maybe a Digic 5 processor and more mp's).

[Max F]

I'm waiting for the 60D. I'd like it to have everything that the 7D has but thats not going to happen obviously. I'll take the same ISO performance, same video, microadjust, spot metering and megapixels. I can live without the fps, advanced focusing, 100% view, and weathersealing.

I currently have a xti and shoot almost exclusively center point so the lack pro type focusing and fps are not really deal breakers ( but the price of a 7d is for me). My main reason for upgrading would be for the iso performance and video.

[krepta]

Be patient! 60D is on its way. The 7D was supposed to be the 60D, but since Canon updated/incorporated so much that they decided to make a whole new class. But like I said be patient, it'll come, most likely next year sometime. When it comes though I can guarantee it will inherit most of its features from the 40D/50D, I highly doubt they will incorporate anything new that's of any value (maybe a Digic 5 processor and more mp's).Just a little correction, the 7D was never intended to be the 60D. It was created to compete with Nikon's D300s and bridge a gap in Canon's EOS lineup.

[Natural Images]

Just a little correction, the 7D was never intended to be the 60D. It was created to compete with Nikon's D300s and bridge a gap in Canon's EOS lineup.

The 7D was intended to start a whole new class but everybody was expecting a 60D, I guess thats what I was trying to say.

[krepta]

The 7D was intended to start a whole new class but everybody was expecting a 60D, I guess thats what I was trying to say.Aah, sorry! Yes, that is true, many were expecting a 60D this time around.

[Stealthy Ninja]

I'm waiting for the 60D. I'd like it to have everything that the 7D has but thats not going to happen obviously. I'll take the same ISO performance, same video, microadjust, spot metering and megapixels. I can live without the fps, advanced focusing, 100% view, and weathersealing.

I currently have a xti and shoot almost exclusively center point so the lack pro type focusing and fps are not really deal breakers ( but the price of a 7d is for me). My main reason for upgrading would be for the iso performance and video.

IMHO the 7D is worth the price difference.

BODY ONLY...
7D retails in HK: 13,480 (you can get it for $12,000)
50D retails in HK: 9,280 (you can get it for $8,180)

in USD:

7D retails in HK: $1,728 (you can get it for $1,538 )
50D retails in HK: $1,189 (you can get it for $1,048 )

Only $4000 ($500) difference. By the time the 60D comes out the 7D price will be less and you'll be able to save up that extra $4000 ($500) for sure.

:) ;)

That said, the FPS won't be much different and if you REALLY don't need the better AF (worth the extra money IMHO, because you never know when you'll need it in the future) it won't benefit you that much I suppose.

If high ISO is for you, try a 2nd hand 5D, it's great! No micro adjust or video though.

[krepta]

If the 60D comes out in spring 2010 (as many anticipate), I don't think that the 7D's price will have gone down by then. The 60D will most likely start out around USD$1200-1300 body-only (the 50D will come down in price once again). The 7D is currently at USD$1700, a ~$500 difference with the xxD line, as you said, Ninja. I think it will be a year before the 7D comes down in price, and it will only come down about $100-$200 at best. Its current price point is already fairly competitive and offers an excellent value.

Of course, if there is no 60D until next summer or fall, then it is more likely that the 7D's price will have dropped by then. :)

[Stealthy Ninja]

In Hong Kong it will be a bit less as demand drops. Officially though, the price won't come down.

So many camera stores in Hong Kong creates good competition. When you need to buy online or only have one shop around, then it's different. :)

[krepta]

In Hong Kong it will be a bit less as demand drops. Officially though, the price won't come down.

So many camera stores in Hong Kong creates good competition. When you need to buy online or only have one shop around, then it's different. :)That's true, the price at retailers is usually less than the MSRP, and it could drop a little even if the MSRP does not. Do you usually get pretty good deals in HK?

[Stealthy Ninja]

HK prices:
http://www.ygdragon.net/index.php?page=photo/cameraprice.htm

A lot of the time you can get cheaper than the prices on that site, but it's a good guide.

To get US dollars divide the price by 7.8. :)

The key to getting good prices in Hong Kong is to know where to go. Generally you can save a couple of hundred or so by going to the right shop. Example, my favourite shop (Kinefoto). BUT they have limited stock, so... you know, you're taking you chances.

You can also get grey market stuff (no warranty) which is often CHEAPER than the 2nd hand market. Which is good if you want to spend like 2nd hand, but get something new.

For example, a 70-200 2.8L IS costs $12,900 in a shop (with warranty) it costs $12,000 2nd hand. It cost $11,590 on the grey market! (Personally, I'd prefer to pay $12,900 and get a warranty... but you can get a good deal if you want.

Kinefoto (my fav shop, the guy behind the counter is the guy to get to serve you if you can, there's another guy there who wears glasses who speaks English well, but is a bit rude (still not as bad as some other shops on the same street):

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3431/3729243112_0b245d66e5_o.jpg

[mouettus]

I'm personnally just waiting for this camera to come out to upgrade. I really want HD video feature and maybe a little better ISO performance (and I'm not talking about higher ISO's here).

I don't care for dual processors, I don't care for more than 9 points AF (as I mainly use center), I don't care for more FPS, gazilion megapixels and all the extra features you can get on the 7D

What I do care about (and willing to pay 1400ish CAD for) is a good and solid body that holds well in the hand (love the 50d for that), good little LCD screen that has a good GUI, 12ish mpx, fast shutter that doesn't make the camera shake when it moves (like my Rebel XS)

There IS a market at that price point cuz I really want one and I'm ready to shell that money into it. No way I'm spending 2k$ on a body + another 2k on lenses!!! Maybe 800$ is not much for you but I can get my damn car's suspention fixed for that money! haha

[ChioPhotography]

Yeah, I'm going to upgrade only if it will have better ISO performance. Like really really better. The Full HD and all is good to have but that's not why we are buying DSLRs.

I also write rumors and my suggested specs about 60D and other 2 cameras on my blog :p http://the-digital-photographer.blogspot.com/2009/11/canon-eos-60d-rumors_27.html