Will there ever be a tiny FF canon?

[bbss]

I've recently had both 5dm2 and 5d. But sold both due to their considerate heft.

Is the next FF Canon a small form factor one. This seems to be what is missing from their lineup. And what would be a natural next move.

I doubt they have the technology or competance to pull this off. Like with laptops, it's easy to make a powerpack when size is not to be factored in. It is the powerpack ultraportables that makes the highest demands on pure brainpower.

Do you think they are up for it? They already had the 1d og 5d series on the market some years for 'warming up'.

[SMP_Homer]

I dunno how you can have a full frame sensor in a box, an EF mount on the front, a viewfinder, and somewhere to hold it, and make it smaller!
Sure there are components that can be made smaller to save weight and space, but the big ones (mount, sensor, viewfinder/mirror) can't change... if you change those, you're no longer FF

[beanster]

devil's advocate: I really like the size.

[datadump]

i think the 5d2 is "tiny" and light... compared to my 1dm3. so.. i guess its all perspective heh heh.

[LBaldwin]

What about rangefinder size? I think that Canon should re-invent this aspect of the market. I think a small RF kit with a WA, normal and tele would cool to have for travel, and I want actual interchangeable glass not add ons.

[SuzyView]

I don't think there is a possibility of anything FF in a P&S right now. The cost would be nuts and it wouldn't fit with the current technology. If the heft isn't for you, then live with a wide angle crop smaller body. FF isn't for everyone.

[datadump]

What about rangefinder size? I think that Canon should re-invent this aspect of the market.


i second that!

[LBaldwin]

i second that!

I have a good friend that has collected the RF cameras from Canon made in the 50's and they are really fun to play with. I have a few RF cameras including yashica Lynx 5000e. No doubt Sigma's rangefinder could be an alternative, but I want L glass..

[Hermes]

Surely it won't be that long before electronic viewfinders make it possible to eliminate the mirror, prism (maybe the shutter too), as well reducing lens & camera size.

[bbss]

i think the 5d2 is "tiny" and light... compared to my 1dm3. so.. i guess its all perspective heh heh.
You need to be a weightlifter to handle the 1 series! It's not for the common people. Although, if one wants something heavy, do it for real!

I think 5d series is an inefficient design. With this considerate heft, I would have expected more speed and rain sealing.

500d with original 5d processor. Making it speedier, due to 12 vs 15mp, say 5 f/s. Now, this would have been something to pay for.

[Hermes]

You need to be a weightlifter to handle the 1 series! It's not for the common people. Although, if one wants something heavy, do it for real!

I think 5d series is an inefficient design. With this considerate heft, I would have expected more speed and rain sealing.

500d with original 5d processor. Making it speedier, due to 12 vs 15mp, say 5 f/s. Now, this would have been something to pay for.

I think you may be overlooking the fact that not many people who are at the level of needing a full-frame camera, will want it to be "fun-sized".

I find the 5D size and weight pretty-much perfect. Anything smaller or lighter and it becomes harder to grip properly and hold steady.

[bsmotril]

I'm predicting a micro four thirds format Canon in the not too distant future. Recent cost reduction in the manufacturing process for very high res LED screens will make this possible and profitable.

[krb]

Here's how to get a small FF SLR body:

- Get a 5D, 5D mk II, D700, whatever.
- Get the battery grip for your choice of camera
- Attach a 70-200 f/2.8 lens
- Use the above kit for a couple years.
- Remove the grip and start using a 50mm 1.4 lens. The camera will seem incredibly compact.

[amfoto1]

There have been hordes of very small FF cameras... They use 35mm film. Compare an AE-1 Program with a Motor Drive MA and you choice of FD-N lens with any comparable modern Canon model. It's pretty amazing how things have grown since the days Canon was actually trying to build more compact SLRs and lenses.

With computer tech and electronics shrinking in size every year, FF DSLRs shouldn't need to be so big (and seem to keep getting bigger/heavier with each new generation).

At the same time, hopefully cameras won't get too small either. There's an ideal balance, that needs to work well with the lenses, too.

[Jannie]

It is probably coming, but a high IQ small camera if not FF, other than the new Leica which I believe is FF.

Once upon a time in a far off land , the camera people called portable was a SpeedGraphic, which had bellows and used 4"x5" sheet film but could in fact be hand held. 35mm ca
eras like the Leicas came onto the scene and photographers like Henri Cartier Bresson and showed us a new way of shooting and how to do this without being obtrusive. Yes today the cameras are large and to me anything smaller than a 1D I call a small camera, but they are not really.

I think where we will continue to see progress in small is in cameras like the new Olympus and Panasonic and while I don't think we will see them in full frame, I am likely to think we will eventually see them with the kind if I Q that the 5D classic has.

[Bob_A]

There have been hordes of very small FF cameras... They use 35mm film. Compare an AE-1 Program with a Motor Drive MA and you choice of FD-N lens with any comparable modern Canon model. It's pretty amazing how things have grown since the days Canon was actually trying to build more compact SLRs and lenses.

With computer tech and electronics shrinking in size every year, FF DSLRs shouldn't need to be so big (and seem to keep getting bigger/heavier with each new generation).

At the same time, hopefully cameras won't get too small either. There's an ideal balance, that needs to work well with the lenses, too.

Another example is the Olympus OM-1. It had a big bright viewfinder yet was one of the most compact SLR's made.

I'd love to see a smaller format FF camera with a pro or semi-pro build. Maybe not as small as an OM-1, but something like a FTb or AE-1 would be great.

[Chet]

Seeing you used the word EVER, my vote will be 2017.

[Natural Images]

Here's how to get a small FF SLR body:

- Get a 5D, 5D mk II, D700, whatever.
- Get the battery grip for your choice of camera
- Attach a 70-200 f/2.8 lens
- Use the above kit for a couple years.
- Remove the grip and start using a 50mm 1.4 lens. The camera will seem incredibly compact.

+1 :lol:

[NaKiD EyE]

get a Leica M9.

[cdifoto]

I doubt they have the technology or competance to pull this off.
I don't think anyone does.

[cdifoto]

You need to be a weightlifter to handle the 1 series! It's not for the common people. Although, if one wants something heavy, do it for real!
There are a lot of "common people" using 1 series...

It's not about the weight; it's about being accustomed to it.

[cdifoto]

There have been hordes of very small FF cameras... They use 35mm film.
But they have no digital components: No LCD and its required architecture, no CF card slot and its required architecture, no Li-Ion battery and its required architecture, no image processor and its required architecture...

We'll get one eventually but it probably won't be tomorrow.

[NickSimcheck]

We'll get one eventually but it probably won't be tomorrow.

Day after?



:lol::lol:

[cdifoto]

Day after?



:lol::lol:
Thursday. I ain't saying which one.

[krepta]

Thursday. I ain't saying which one.The Thursday after pigs start to fly. :shock::lol: