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randalcandari
5th of June 2005 (Sun), 22:16
Hi, has anyone tried editing a raw image from 350D in photoshop CS? Adobe's website says photoshop CS supports 300D. is the raw image on 300D and 350D the same?

Thanks!
-randal

tim
5th of June 2005 (Sun), 22:20
No, the 300D and 350D RAW formats are different. I think the latest version of adobe camera raw for CS2 from the adobe website supports the 350D, not sure if CS does.

randalcandari
5th of June 2005 (Sun), 22:27
yup, I saw the camera raw update for CS2 to support 350D, I was hoping Adobe would also include one for CS so I don't need to get a new version of photoshop.

by the way, isn't TIFF a raw format? would I be able to use noise reduction when editing it in Photoshop?

Thanks!

tim
5th of June 2005 (Sun), 22:28
Just checked, CS1 doesn't support the 350D RAW format. You could use RawShooter Essentials, which is free and very good, google it to find the download.

randalcandari
5th of June 2005 (Sun), 22:29
Thanks Tim.

tim
5th of June 2005 (Sun), 22:29
yup, I saw the camera raw update for CS2 to support 350D, I was hoping Adobe would also include one for CS so I don't need to get a new version of photoshop.

by the way, isn't TIFF a raw format? would I be able to use noise reduction when editing it in Photoshop?

No, TIFF is TIFF, RAW is RAW. Both are lossless, RAW is much more compact. You can use noise reduction like NoiseNinja no matter what file format you use.

schmoelzel
6th of June 2005 (Mon), 04:54
TIFF format is not RAW but TIF is RAW!! Does this make sense?? It didn't for me but if you use a Canon 1D and shoot RAW, all the shots will come out with a TIF extension which is recognized by PSCS v.1..............

PhotosGuy
6th of June 2005 (Mon), 08:36
RAW will get you a "full quality" TIFF after processing. A TIFF can lose some quality during editing.
I do most of my "PS editing" now with RawShooter & only use PS for the things that only it can do.

When you learn how to edit in PS, a tiff or psd file will keep complex changes on separate layers so that, when you learn more, or have a different use for the pic, you can easily re-edit it without losing any quality. Be aware that a tiff with layers can be 100MB or more in size.
That having been said, for simple pics that are only cropped & sharpened in PS, I usually delete the tiff 'cause RawShooter saves the changes made in conversion & I don't need to keep the 3X+ size of the tiff.

CyberPet
6th of June 2005 (Mon), 12:09
The DNG converter that came out recently, handles the raw files from the 350D. You can then open them in Camera Raw 2.4 in Photoshop CS. The DNG converter is a raw-file format too (and non destructive).

If you have Photoshop CS2, you need Camera Raw 3.1, to open 350D raw-files.

Rosalie
1st of February 2006 (Wed), 06:19
The DNG converter that came out recently, handles the raw files from the 350D. You can then open them in Camera Raw 2.4 in Photoshop CS. The DNG converter is a raw-file format too (and non destructive).

If you have Photoshop CS2, you need Camera Raw 3.1, to open 350D raw-files.


hello, could you let me know where i can download v 2.4 from ? i need a mac version though, not pc!

Rumjungle
1st of February 2006 (Wed), 09:24
Actually, PC is up to version 3.3.

Rosalie, you can get it directly from Adobe/support/downloads/photoshop. Here's a link (http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=39&platform=Macintosh).

jfrancho
1st of February 2006 (Wed), 09:45
Actually, PC is up to version 3.3.

Rosalie, you can get it directly from Adobe/support/downloads/photoshop. Here's a link (http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=39&platform=Macintosh).3.1 is when support for the 350d was added. The latest ACR for both MAC and PC running Photoshop CS2 is 3.3.

Rasalie, since you are using Photoshop CS, version ACR 3.3 will be of no use to you. You will need to download the Adobe DNG Converter and Camera Raw 2.4 update (http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=2703).

The flow is like this: Raw files from 350d --> DNG Converter --> DNG files --> ACR (PS CS) --> Tiff/psd/jpeg edited in PS CS --> posted to web, ar sent to printer.

Someone really needs to compose a "So you want to work in raw format, here are the minimum requirements..." post and make it sticky.

I have seen quite a bit of misinformation, or advice given that contradicts what will work in reality about raw processing. All the info is available on Adobe's site, if you are going that route. Remember, tou also have the option of using the software provided by Canon that came with your camera, or trying a third party converter such as Pixmantic's Rawshooter Essentials. They all do as well as you can do with your images.

Rosalie
1st of February 2006 (Wed), 18:01
3.1 is when support for the 350d was added. The latest ACR for both MAC and PC running Photoshop CS2 is 3.3.

Rasalie, since you are using Photoshop CS, version ACR 3.3 will be of no use to you. You will need to download the Adobe DNG Converter and Camera Raw 2.4 update (http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=2703).

The flow is like this: Raw files from 350d --> DNG Converter --> DNG files --> ACR (PS CS) --> Tiff/psd/jpeg edited in PS CS --> posted to web, ar sent to printer.

Someone really needs to compose a "So you want to work in raw format, here are the minimum requirements..." post and make it sticky.

I have seen quite a bit of misinformation, or advice given that contradicts what will work in reality about raw processing. All the info is available on Adobe's site, if you are going that route. Remember, tou also have the option of using the software provided by Canon that came with your camera, or trying a third party converter such as Pixmantic's Rawshooter Essentials. They all do as well as you can do with your images.

hey thank you for explaining, sorry its taken so long for me to get it, im cyrrently downloading, hope it works.

Yes when i decided to shoot Raw i had NO ideas it would be this complicated (from the computer side of things; plugin and convertors!), this valuble info should definatly be summed up in a sticky, because otherwise someone will come on here tomorrow and ask exactly the same questions as i did.. and that could go on forever :lol:

jfrancho
1st of February 2006 (Wed), 18:21
I agree, it's unbelievably complicated, but once you get going, it all comes together.

PhotosGuy
1st of February 2006 (Wed), 23:34
Yes when i decided to shoot Raw i had NO ideas it would be this complicated (from the computer side of things; plugin and convertors!), :D You should have tried doing it in a wet darkroom!

Rosalie
5th of February 2006 (Sun), 13:01
:D You should have tried doing it in a wet darkroom!

yes all this computer stuff REALLY makes me miss my bathroom - (my darkroom, now out of use though!):(

well im happy to say that i finally opened a raw image in ps cs from my canon 350D succesfully! i am very pleased with myself (and thank you all for not giving up on me)!:)

Unfortunatly sometimes it works, and then i come back 2 hours later and the error message comes up again saying that ps doesnt not support the format (eventhough its DNG and not CR2). Anyway i will figure that out im sure ....

So now that i have converted my images from CR2 to DNG, do i need to save both copies, or only DNG? will DNG work in all ps and image programs, or would it be wise to save both versions?

At the moment i have so many copies of one image:
CR2
JPEG (as i shot Raw+ jpeg)
converted CR2 = DNG
and an image i have worked on and saved as psd (or shall i save as tiff?)

so that makes 4!
How does everyone else sort their images? and do you save mulitple copies of one picture? (oh all i want is ONE PHYSICAL NEGATIVE!!) :rolleyes:

thank you!

jfrancho
5th of February 2006 (Sun), 13:46
I have several versions: raw, psd with layers, and several different output versions like web reso, print reso, monochrome, etc. If I were you I'd probably delete the cr2 off my storage drive, but burn a copy of them, in case you upgrade to CS2. The DNG should be supported by many versions of PS to come.