black and white prints on my 20d

[biggin]

first off does any one use the black and white mode built in to the 20d and if so are you having any luck getting them to look good. does anyone have any suggestions on an online pro-lab that prints true black and white prints on the proper papers?

[tim]

I always shoot in color, and I convert in photoshop using one of the many possible methods. I quite like using calculations, you can get some cool effects.

[biggin]

so tim you don't like b&w straight out of the camera at all? I used a program called virtual photographer, it has alot of effects, but what I got back from the lab looked real bad so I don't know if it was the lab or what!I guess I will have to play around with all the ways to convert and see what works the best. I have used the hue-saturation layer method before and it looked good on screen but I never really printed any out.Thanks for your input!

[MrThanh]

i shoot in colour and convert in photoshop as well.

how does everyone else convert to b&w?

personally, I use Lab Color mode, delete channels a&b, back to Grayscale mode, and then adjust levels to get it how i want it to look. the difference is very subtle compared to going straight to grayscale mode, but i think its really worth that little bit of extra work.

[lucasdigital]

i shoot in colour and convert in photoshop as well.

how does everyone else convert to b&w?

personally, I use Lab Color mode, delete channels a&b, back to Grayscale mode, and then adjust levels to get it how i want it to look.

Ditto!
In shots that feature delicate tonal shifts the Lab method works well.
You get better gradiation because your not dealing with three seperate colour channels that you get with the default RBG model.

[glangston]

Black and white with the red filter.

Just messing around.

http://home.socal.rr.com/glangston/infrared.jpg

You can probably do this kind of stuff in Photoshop.

[mdr]

Don't like the out of the camera B&W results. Severe limitations and lower quality.

Shoot in colour, then use channel mixer to convert to B&W. This gives you B&W filter control at the post processing stage, which is much more versatile than using B&W filters when shooting.

[*Zwitter*]

i shoot in colour and convert in photoshop as well.

how does everyone else convert to b&w?



I de-saturate, but converting shots to b/w leaves me feeling like a phoney...

must be a 35mm hang up from way back - I guess I'll get over it :D

[d'homme]

Shoot color. U can always get B&W through PS. But if you shoot B&W in camera, no way to get color.

[markubig]

how does everyone else convert to b&w? Here's a thread where it was discussed recently.

http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=77119

Cheers!

[Huckaback Photo]

If you use photoshop actions get yourself "DigiDaan B & W-2.0
open an image and just and just play the action, simplicity.
there is some adjustment to make if desired,
it does not work good on all images as certain pictures are just not suited to black and white.

for info and download
http://www.digidaan.nl/indexframedigidaan.html?channelmixer/index.html

Martin (Huckaback Photo)

[Huckaback Photo]

For top quallity Black and White prints a dedicated printer may be the answer with special inks.
for a start check out this site. for loads of info. indeed if you are after fine art printing this is possibly no 1, the control is incredible.

http://www.piezography.com/index.html

Martin (Huckaback Photo)

[lkorell]

This one was shot in B&W mode - and printed without using any conversions.

I've been experimenting with B&W mode and I add orange filter setting with fairly good results.

[lkorell]

forgot to add....I'm printing with the Epson R800 and getting really rich B&W. I'd love to try the newer Epsons like R2400 to see how well it does on the larger paper.

Of course for professional printing, I use a lab. I only do limited proofing on my own setup. For larger jobs with lots of proofs I have the lab make a proofbook.

Lou

[richard_a]

I have shot many photos using the B&W effects of the 20D and am quite pleased with the results.

Also, if you shoot B&W with RAW there are a couple of things you should be aware of. If you view the RAW file in Zoom Browser and/or FileViewer it will maintain the B&W tones. You can then process the RAW file in B&W. However, if you view the RAW file in say C1LE or RSE, you will see the colored version. The B&W conversion is done in camera and is software based. Thus when shooting in RAW you can then either do the processing in color or in B&W.

I personally like shooting in B&W tones as it gives me immediate feedback on what the scene will look like with these tones.

[badrotation]

I sometimes shoot sepia toned images from my 20d... I find that they look better from the camera for some reason.. as for straight B/W, I will usually do that in PS.

[martin-images]

Use colour files then u got best of both worlds

Martin
Black and white Gallery @

http://martin-images.smugmug.com/gallery/464835/1/19326347


first off does any one use the black and white mode built in to the 20d and if so are you having any luck getting them to look good. does anyone have any suggestions on an online pro-lab that prints true black and white prints on the proper papers?