Bid for Service : Phographing new city hospital?

[twistedinsight]

Good morning all,

I have recently received a request for a bid to perform photography services for my town's new multi-million dollar Hospital. They are requesting all in all a total of 170 images, ranging from mainly interior shots to 10 exterior shots. The pictures will be used anywhere from low-resolution websites to high res applications in brochures, newspapers, posters, tradeshows backdrops, etc.

They will receive a disk of high-resolution images fully edited with no watermarks, etc. The clinic will retain the copyright to all of the images taken under the contract.

I do my photography business on the side of my regular 7-5 day job as a network administrator, but my business is competing head to head nicely compared to the competition that has been in town for years. I believe this to be a great chance to get my name out to the part of the community that has yet to use my services, but I also do not want to undercut myself, or competing firms. In the same light, I do not want to overcut them and lose the bid due to this reason.

I have thought about comparing my prices to a full days of service that I get paid for a wedding, which my package price w/ CD involved is $2,800.

Thoughts / comments?

Thanks so much in advance!

[PhotosGuy]

The clinic will retain the copyright to all of the images taken under the contract. I'd prefer to see, "The clinic will retain two year unlimited rights to use all of the images taken under the contract. I retain the ©." In the same light, I do not want to overcut them and lose the bid due to this reason. Did you ask the question, "What's your budget for this work?"

$2,800 might be in line with your location, whatever it is, but you've pulled it out of the air? Be prepared to figure out the details - days shooting; hours processing; hours hand-holding the client...

[troutfisher]

Just looking at your gear list I would budget to hire a TSE lens

[twistedinsight]

I'd prefer to see, "The clinic will retain two year unlimited rights to use all of the images taken under the contract. I retain the ©." ...

I will definitely make sure I retain the copyright, and that they will have unlimited use granted to them. The terms of the length of this copyright will not be up for discussion I have been told, so I will have to abide by their requests on this. (gotta love it)

Did you ask the question, "What's your budget for this work?" $2,800 might be in line with your location, whatever it is, but you've pulled it out of the air? Be prepared to figure out the details - days shooting; hours processing; hours hand-holding the client...
I have not asked this, I did not know if it was appropriate to ask this or not. I figured if they were going the competitive bid route, they would weigh quality and bid amount against savings / etc for the best bid.

Is it a normal practice if a business is asking for bids to request a budget information? The reason I ask, is I'm guessing they're taking the bid amount as leverage for who will be chosen, so if we're asking what they're willing / wanting to pay it would in a way defeat the purpose would it not?

I'm very curious, not shooting down...this is my first rodeo with prices that aren't fixed as opposed to my wedding prices :)

Thanks!



Just looking at your gear list I would budget to hire a TSE lens

TSE lens, I have never really used a tilt shift lens. Would it be ideal for such an event? just curious if anyone has used this for commercial / landscape/location photography

[Floriantrojer.com]

Definitely get a TS lens for the work!!! Anything else will be disappointing for the interiors, seriously! Judging by your gear list you have no lens that would be good for architectural work, especially interiors. You need something wider than 50mm, and preferably a TS lens!

As for asking, I wouldn't really. It is a bid, they probably make it open for bids and don't pick a photographer themselves because they want to see numerour offers and take the most attractive one to them.

Charge what you think your time and skills are worth, don't charge what you think is just right to not over- or undercut.

Chances are that there will always be the one's that are more expensive than you, and always some that will do it for next to nothing. Figure out a good price and be ready to justify why you charge it.

As with anything in life, you win some (bids) and you loose some. There's no formula written in stone.

[Park Street]

I would need a shot list to even start to bid this. 170 architectural images is a massive amount of work. I would bet that the 170 images would be spread out with some being architectural, some staff, some procedures, etc. Of course until you have a shot list there is no way to determine how long shooting this is going to take. My advice - Get more information.

[twistedinsight]

Definitely get a TS lens for the work!!! Anything else will be disappointing for the interiors, seriously! Judging by your gear list you have no lens that would be good for architectural work, especially interiors. You need something wider than 50mm, and preferably a TS lens!

As for asking, I wouldn't really. It is a bid, they probably make it open for bids and don't pick a photographer themselves because they want to see numerour offers and take the most attractive one to them.

Charge what you think your time and skills are worth, don't charge what you think is just right to not over- or undercut.

Chances are that there will always be the one's that are more expensive than you, and always some that will do it for next to nothing. Figure out a good price and be ready to justify why you charge it.

As with anything in life, you win some (bids) and you loose some. There's no formula written in stone.

Some great advice, thank you very much! Really opened my eyes on a few things.

I would need a shot list to even start to bid this. 170 architectural images is a massive amount of work. I would bet that the 170 images would be spread out with some being architectural, some staff, some procedures, etc. Of course until you have a shot list there is no way to determine how long shooting this is going to take. My advice - Get more information.

I did not include the shot list in the OP....

Here is the shot list they gave me:

Location # of photos
Exterior 8
Cafateria 5
Admissions 5
Respiratory 10
Emergency Dept 20
Pharmacy 5
2nd Floor General 20
Labor & Delivery 15
Administration 5
Board Room 2
Gift Shop 5
Radiology 20
Surgery 20
Laboratory 10
ICU 10
Business Office 10


Thanks everyone so much, the input is greatly appreciated!

[twistedinsight]

Definitely get a TS lens for the work!!! Anything else will be disappointing for the interiors, seriously! Judging by your gear list you have no lens that would be good for architectural work, especially interiors. You need something wider than 50mm, and preferably a TS lens!

As for asking, I wouldn't really. It is a bid, they probably make it open for bids and don't pick a photographer themselves because they want to see numerour offers and take the most attractive one to them.

Charge what you think your time and skills are worth, don't charge what you think is just right to not over- or undercut.

Chances are that there will always be the one's that are more expensive than you, and always some that will do it for next to nothing. Figure out a good price and be ready to justify why you charge it.

As with anything in life, you win some (bids) and you loose some. There's no formula written in stone.

also, I do have a 24-70mm f/2.8L , so on FF that will give me a little more on the wide end, but I will look into the TS lenses.

Any suggestions ;)

[Park Street]

Some great advice, thank you very much! Really opened my eyes on a few things.



I did not include the shot list in the OP....

Here is the shot list they gave me:

Location # of photos
Exterior 8
Cafateria 5
Admissions 5
Respiratory 10
Emergency Dept 20
Pharmacy 5
2nd Floor General 20
Labor & Delivery 15
Administration 5
Board Room 2
Gift Shop 5
Radiology 20
Surgery 20
Laboratory 10
ICU 10
Business Office 10


Thanks everyone so much, the input is greatly appreciated!

Ok. My next question would be are there to be people in these shots? If so are the shots to be journalistic or staged?

I would be that they are basing this list on someone coming in and taking snapshots not staging the shots. What could they possibly use ten staged shots in their business office for?

[Shootfilm]

I would research the competition in your area. Archtectural photography companies that do large scale building dont just run out malequipt. I watched a firm shoot a simple parking structure for the local trasit company. They had loads of gear and lighting. They used reflectors 20 ft square to get the lighting just right. Their strobes were not the little AB's used in studios they were monsters that lit entire floors.

SF

[jacuff]

I have not asked this, I did not know if it was appropriate to ask this or not.

TSE lens, I have never really used a tilt shift lens. Would it be ideal for such an event? just curious if anyone has used this for commercial / landscape/location photography

I think you mis-understood Frank's rhetorical question. Asking the hospital what there budget is won't be the best move. It is a question you should ask yourself. WHAT IS YOUR BUDGET, not what is their budget? Their budget is probably the lowest bidder.

TS-E lenses are ideal for this type of job. They will help you control the perspective more. You can keep your vertical lines vertical. While you can spend time in photoshop to correct this, you'll get much better resolution to do it in camera with the proper lens.

[Alleh]

Depending on the creativity they are looking for in the images this could be as many as 5 or even more days of shooting.

If they had come to me for the job I would be expecting they wanted well thought composition and creative images as well as the standard depending on the subject and would probably charge between $10k-$20k once I looked into the details and figured out what would all go into the images.

Sorry to judge but unless they are just looking for a cheap option for some quick photos I don't think you could handle a job like this at the higher standards or photography.

A few bad things could happen. One you charge a low fee that you feel falls in line with how you would produce the job and the quality you would provide and they do hire you then get pissed when you don't provide what someone else would have charged $20k for. Another could be you bid higher and more in line with professional production levels and then they get really pissed when you don't provide what they expected.

Maybe you will get lucky though and bid directly in line with what they want to spend and provide them exactly the quality the had expected.

[twistedinsight]

Hey everyone,

Again thanks for your input. My town is very small, population of about 11,000. As far as high end, commercial architectural photography, we do not have this available anywhere close. The only place I can think of that might be available would be Shreveport (2 hours) or Dallas (4 hours away), which would definitely be a possibility but I believe they're keeping this local.

Either way, I am trying to just get a basis for what I should charge for a project such as this. It is known that in this town that I specialize in Wedding/Portrait/Event photography, and after seeing my website that does not have many if any examples of this type photography, I was contacted with their interest.

I know my output will not be that of one considered the higher in standards of commercial photography, but I am confident that I will definitely give them a Unique viewpoint, that can be considered extremely commercial, yet unique/artistic. I was just curious of how I should go about pricing that will 1) be worth it in the end for me and 2) weigh the possibility of using this as an outreach to the community and get my name out more.

I hope I am not coming across as being defensive, b/c i am not and respect all of your suggestions and input. It really means a lot, and it really has and will help out in my decision.

I'm mainly in a pinch b/c tho in Dallas where someone may not bat an eyelash at spending $12,000 on wedding photography and a hospital might could care less about dropping $20-30k on a project such as this, I live in a town where it's unheard of to charge $3,000 for a wedding and everything is so much smaller scale, which is my reason for asking opinions on this.

Again, i really appreciate it,and any further information I'm incredibly thankful for!

Thanks again everyone!

[LBaldwin]

Yes, but the prices in town don't matter. The prices of the building, equipment etc are what matters. Do you honestly think that the Xray, cat scan and heart monitors were cheaper cause you live in a small burg.

They want you to shoot because they know that you will give up all rights, charge a lot less than a photographer with a larger business.

For what you are doing I would be charging 1500 per day AND usage fees for each type of image. Trust me they know this and 2800 is way way too low for a CD full of image that you have no control over how they are used.

This is at least a 10k gig...

[Floriantrojer.com]

To further discuss that pricing issue, I feel it is not right to say this is a $5k or $50k job.

Every one has different needs. What are yours?!

You may need a lot less than another photographer in terms of overhead. What's your cost of doing business?

While for a high-end photographer this may be a $15k (ballpark figure) job, for you it may be a $5k job. It is up to the hospital to decide which one the take.

The $15K guy may get the job because of 500 light stands he will bring and the price may convince the hospital he'll do a great job. But maybe they'll see that one is not worth 10K more over you, who may do an almost equally good job. YOU JUST CAN'T KNOW.

If you'd be happy doing the project for 3K or 5K, go and charge that! It's you who will eventually have 5K or NOT have 5K because you charged more even though you didn't feel you should.

There is a photographer on another message board who sold two photos to a large hotel chain for 9,000 Dollars, for about 400 prints to be made and hung in their buildings, the company pays for printing, etc.

Another photographer may well say the price is way too low if you narrow it down to cost per print, but he's in the end.....NOT the one who just made 9 grand selling two pics, and keeping his rights too.

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Long story short: If it works for you, go for it.

[airfrogusmc]

I would need a shot list to even start to bid this. 170 architectural images is a massive amount of work. I would bet that the 170 images would be spread out with some being architectural, some staff, some procedures, etc. Of course until you have a shot list there is no way to determine how long shooting this is going to take. My advice - Get more information.

I agree Park. I wouldn't even try to shoot this in one day. And learning to use a T&S lens on a job is a disaster waiting to happen;). THIS IS NOT A WEDDING and you shouldn't even think of pricing and shooting under that mindset.

You are right this is an opportunity but it is a double edged sword. You also have to deliver the goods and 170 photos in one day for this kind of work is awfully aggressive. I work in healthcare almost everyday and I would never give up my copyright. If for some reason the client insisted I would tell them my concerns then adjust the price accordingly.

Also is there going to be an art director or graphic designer on location. If so, this will also be a time consideration. Have you ever worked with other creative people on a photo shoot? If there are going to be people in your shots, are there going to be hair,make-up and stylist on the shoot?

Small town or not like someone has already mentioned imaging equipment cost the same in B.F.E. as it does in L.A.

[PhotosGuy]

Is it a normal practice if a business is asking for bids to request a budget information? The reason I ask, is I'm guessing they're taking the bid amount as leverage for who will be chosen, so if we're asking what they're willing / wanting to pay it would in a way defeat the purpose would it not?
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I think you mis-understood Frank's rhetorical question. Asking the hospital what there budget is won't be the best move. It's my normal practice. (Need some pricing help... please :)) Why spend the time on a RFP if I have no interest in doing the work? Most pro ADs will tell me as we have a common interest in getting the work done right. Business clients will have seen my samples & are talking to me because they liked what they saw. Don't forget the "L factor", either. Everyone starts out with the Kit lens & would like to add an "L" for the same price, no? But they come up with the $s for the "L" because of the higher perceived quality of the results.

As for "leverage", you'll always have those people who will, or have to, put price before quality. For those who "have to" as in there just isn't enough money now, sometimes you can pare down the job for the present budget, & pick up the rest at a later time. For those who are just looking for the lowest bidder, let them educate themselves on the real cost of working that way & some of them will add a new concept to their vocabulary... "Reshoot". ;)
also, I do have a 24-70mm f/2.8L , so on FF that will give me a little more on the wide end, but I will look into the TS lenses. A TS lens would be great for this, but keep a few things in mind.
1. The wider ones are f/4, which means they will be sharpest at f/8-11, & this might give you lighting headaches.
2. You can get much the same results with an XWA lens keeping the camera back absolutely vertical & cropping out the excess image +...
3. In some cases, you can use a longer focal length & shoot from a greater distance when the situation will allow it. I did not include the shot list in the OP....
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I would be that they are basing this list on someone coming in and taking snapshots not staging the shots. What could they possibly use ten staged shots in their business office for? That's not a shot list, it's a wish list, & I suspect that they have no idea what they really need as opposed to what they say they want.
An AD will have a pretty good idea of what he needs for the "brochures, newspapers, posters, tradeshows backdrops, etc.", & will have rough concept layouts for you to work from. This is why I like working with pros. Most times the AD will be there on the day(s) of the shoot & will work with you. (They like to get out of the office, too.)
For these people, you're going to have to pin them down to provide an AD-clone who is responsible for being there through the entire shooting process. A "The Buck Stops Here" type of person who has some authority & who can smooth the way for you & assume responsibility for the content of the images. Otherwise be prepared for, "Why didn't you get this?", & "Who's that person? They don't work here", etc.

I suggest that, if/when you light & shoot, you work from the outside-in. Shoot the whole room, then move in for the MS (medium shots) & CUs (close-ups).

OTOH, maybe their expectations are that you'll just do a walk through & pop off some quick shots of everything you see. Either way, this will be a great "WTF WAS I THINKING?" experience for you. Good luck with it!

[Shootfilm]

If its a public funded hospital it may be a closed bid process. They should supply you with a bid packet upon request.

SF

[TeeJay]

I will definitely make sure I retain the copyright, and that they will have unlimited use granted to them. The terms of the length of this copyright will not be up for discussion I have been told, so I will have to abide by their requests on this.

Forgive me for saying, but I'm not sure you understand "Copyright". You either hang on to it, or you don't. Make sure you know which is required.


...I have recently received a request for a bid to perform photography services for my town's new multi-million dollar Hospital...

My guess is they can afford for the job to be done properly! :)

TJ

[aroundlsu]

If you aren't sure how to use a TS lens you may be better off renting the 14mm 2.8 from LensRentals.com.

http://www.lensrentals.com/rent/canon-14mm-f2.8-l-ii/for-canon

The TS would be great but if you don't understand how to use it you can get some seriously messed up shots.

However with this budget and them dictating copyright terms like that, I'd have to pass on the job.

I assisted a "real" architectural photographer a few years ago and we spent 2 - 3 hours lighting a single shot with small hot lights. Over an entire night of work I think we shot 4 photos total. He probably charged in excess of $10,000 for the night (he drove down from Tennessee, I can't remember his name for the life of me).

While they may not be looking for that kind of quality, I would at least want to properly light every location. That would take probably a full week for that set list and a small crew. So at least $10,000 over 5 days to pull that off. Plus you dictate the licensing terms.

Or you can just go in and snap some pictures for the day..

[amfoto1]

Unless you (and they) are prepared to and want to do a major, multi-day shoot with a series of shot setups, hiring crew to help, buying or renting equipment, etc., you could approach this on a much more rudimentary level. Just what is needed completely depends upon their expectations. Maybe they want a lot of sophisticated shots. Or maybe just a bunch done fairly quickly in a journalistic style. You really need to know, before you can put together a quote. You need to ask a whole lot more questions, before you can possibly quote the job.

Now, a lot of first time photo buyers simply do not understand licensing of images and ask for the ridiculous. Or sometimes experienced, savvy buyers start at the extreme and actually plan to negotiate back to something more reasonable.

I'd explain to them that it costs a great deal more to own all the copyrights outright, or to have completely exclusive, irrevocable right of use to all the images produced. Sure, you can do that, but it's very expensive and adds a great deal of unnecessary cost. People often think they need this sort of ownership of the images, when in fact a more reasonable and sensible deal would be better for them and everyone involved.

Here's how you can "explain" it to them. Your bid can have multiple offers for them to select from:

Under one offer - call it Option A - sure, go ahead and propose complete ownership of copyright, or the full, irrevocable usage license of all images. For a large shoot like this, I'd offer at somewhere between $10,000 and $25,000 per image, a heavily discounted rate. Let's say you go there over the course of five days and shoot 500 to 1000 images per day. Add it up, or just let them do the math. And help them realize that they are buying not only the good usable images but also all the outtakes for this amount. (If asked to do this with a smaller number of images, say a dozen or so, I'd increase the fee for transfer of copyright to between $50,000 and $100,000 per image. These are actually reasonable amounts, since an image sold for stock over a lifetime might have easily this value, or even greater.)

Alternatively, another choice called Option B might show ala carte licensing of selected images from the shoot (just the ones they need and want to use), with no transfer of copyright, and at a series of reasonable rates: brochure with press run of 10,000, single time image use, $250, renewable for a second press run for $150. Three years' display of low resolution image on website, $100 per image, renewable for an additional three years for $75 pers image. Images used in more prominent ways might be charged more. Images used in less prominent ways, less. That sort of thing. Be sure to cite a minimum number of images to be purchased (based upon what they tell you they will be needing), because you are discounting for volume. You can leave it open to additional negotiation, should they change the number of images they need.

Not saying these are the "correct" amounts, I'm just using some numbers for illustration purposes here. What you will be offering is going to depend upon the usage of each, individual image. They need to tell you in a lot more detail what they plan and need. Then you need to work throught them and calculate your offer. If it were me I'd offer a pretty favorable licensing fee in each case, since they plan to use a large number of images.

Neither of the above includes your day rate or expenses. These would be a separate part of the bid.

Figure the flat day rate you establish times the number of days you will be on site shooting. Part of your expenses will be post processing, which might be half your shooting rate, probably at least an equal number of days. There would be a charge for the "proof" DVD or CD. Also cost of any rental equipment, travel, meals, support staff, consumables related to the job, etc., etc., etc.

We don't know the going day rate for shooters in your area, nor do we know your level of experience. Normally I'd expect $1500 to $3000 day rate, where I live (half day rate of $800 to $1600). A top rated, nationally recognized specialist might charge $4000 to $5000 a day, and would likely come with higher expenses (travel, lodging).

Post-processing is often charged at one half the shooting rate, so $750-$1500 a day, but is usually calculated on an hourly basis.

Basically, I think you need to ask them a whole lot more questions to have any hope of providing a quote. They might get some kid with a kit camera off Craigslist to shoot the whole thing for $500 and turn over a disk, but only get a few marginally usable images. Or they might bring in a top pro with tons of experience and end up paying 6 figures for the shoot. Or choose something in-between, such as you.

You should get and quickly read/consult the books "Pricing Photography" and "Good Business Practices for Photographers" off Amazon, if you don't already have them. These will help you put together a complete quote that's fair to both yourself and your client, as well as a fair and professional contract for the job, image licensing agreements and any other necessary forms. You'll have to adapt their recommended pricing to your situation, to a large volume job.

Oh, and part of your bid and contract should require proper model & property release ("Good Biz Practices" includes a sample of the ASMP release, which many consider one of the best) for all recognizeable people and places in the images.

[Shootfilm]

You cant just bid blindly. If its a legit bid process they will have everything laid out in a bid packet just like they did with the contractor that built the place. They can charge you a fee for a bid pack but if its a legit bid process they must provide the packet. If they are asking for estimates which are different from bids then you have to do your own homework.

SF

[tomd]

Like mentioned above, will there be people in these shots? Or are they empty rooms just before the hospital opens? If people are involved, it sounds like you'll need quite a few model releases. That too takes time to manage. Could you bid something like: $ XXX for the shoot and CD and $XXX per hour for post processing?

[airfrogusmc]

I work in healthcare (photography) and most of my clients will get bids on big jobs but they usually have already made the choice of who they are going to use. It rarely has anything to do with the lowest bid. In fact in true open bids usually the really low bids and the high bids get thrown out.

[sfaust]

Lots of good advice given here twistedinsight, with regard to the complexity and size of the project.

I would also join the bandwagon. This is a multi-week job if you factor in all the work. Client meetings, scheduling, brainstorming, rescheduling, pre-production, production, post production, paperwork (releases, licensing, registration, bid, revisions, delivery memos, etc). Make sure all that time is accounted for.

Based on my experiences I can easily see this being a $10K to $30K project, depending on the rights asked for, the production values the client may be looking for, and the market size/area. I can't see it being smaller even in the small markets. Pricing not only takes into consideration the market size, but also the client size, how the images will be used, the photographers experience and skill level, the creativity and complexity of the project, and so on.

The size of the market does have bearing in pricing, but that doesn't mean everything gets thrown out the window either. Even in small markets, industry standards still apply. They may be smaller or less restrictive, modified in some way, but they are still there.

Pricing photography is very different depending on the industry. Editorial, retail, architecture, weddings, journalism, advertising, scientific/technical, etc, are all priced in different ways. Applying one to another generally doesn't work, and its also a giveaway to those within the industry that the photographer is inexperienced within that industry.

And all the specifics need to be addressed before any pricing can take place. I.e., there are 10 shots listed in the Labortaory. Without specifics, those could take 5 minutes each, or 5 hours each. A huge difference in cost which needs to be reflected in the bid. The same goes for all the other items.

And as mentioned, are they thinking of using models or employees? Are makeup services required? How much retouching are they expecting on the exteriors to clean up telephone poles, wires, etc, or just leave them all in? Who is responsible for obtain releases for people in the images? Are released even required? Are the surgical shots just the empty room, or during an actual or staged surgery? Are any of the rooms or scenes staged? The list goes on and on. If you don't ask and get it written down, you can bet there will be confusion, misunderstandings, and it will negatively effect someones budget.

Then there are the contractual issues. Ie, if a model sues because someone didn't get a release in a situation where it was required, is the photographer or client held responsible. If its not spelled out, guess who gets stuck with the legal fees? Or perhaps the job was delivered and the files were not prepared properly for the print process used and the clients job was ruined. If that's not covered in the bid, the photogapher could be held responsible for the print run which could be in the tens of thousands. These details are usually worked out in the bids.

The main point that I am trying to make with the examples above, is that there is a whole lot more to a job of this size then just the photography. A lack of industry, technical, or business experience could easily allow the photographer to be taken advantage of, unwillingly exposed to potentially devastating financial risks, poor performance damaging their reputation in their marketing area, not delivering to a clients expectations because their visions were different, and many other pitfalls.

Make sure you know how deep the water is, and where the rocks are, before diving in. And since its business and involves an exchange of money, make sure its all spelled out what happens is someone does hit a rock ;)



The $15K guy may get the job because of 500 light stands he will bring and the price may convince the hospital he'll do a great job. But maybe they'll see that one is not worth 10K more over you, who may do an almost equally good job. YOU JUST CAN'T KNOW.


I disagree. IMO if a client looks at a group of photographers portfolios, its pretty easy to sum up their general skills, experience in specific areas, overall production quality, etc. And genereally people at that level of an organization are also experienced at buying media sevices, and have the basic knowledge to assess a portfolio from a photographer or designer.

[twistedinsight]

SO much great information here, it's MUCH appreciated!!

As per the instructions in the bid package, there will not be any people allowed in the images. They want the images to strictly include JUST the facilities and no people whatsoever. The pictures will be taken the week before opening the facilities, in February.

This has given me a lot of needed information, and if anyone else has anything else to supply please let me know! I really appreciate it!

[airfrogusmc]

I was curious if you got the job and if so how did you price it and how did it all turn out?

[zelseman]

As am I, I just read this thread and im interested in what came of this.

[twistedinsight]

Hey everyone,

I put in my bid for $7500, which would include everything they asked for except they would have unlimited print/publication rights for 5 years. I didn't hear anything back :)

This town is cheap. I'm eager to see what comes from it. There are some good photographers out there in Mag (one is a_morris on these boards) and hopefully one of them got it, but I have yet to hear.

We shall see, when the site comes up I'll revisit this post and show you images from the lucky photographer that took over this project :)