View Full Version : Some Dusty Speedway PLUS England Goalkeeper!
gmen
8th of June 2005 (Wed), 18:20
A very dusty night at the speedway - enhanced by the presence of Paul Robinson (England & Tottenham Hotspur goalkeeper) who presented the 'Rider of the Night' award....
I'll start with the Robinson shot (he's the guy on the left)...
http://www.tgsphoto.co.uk/forum_images/cc001.jpg
Then some dusty ones...
http://www.tgsphoto.co.uk/forum_images/cc008.jpg
http://www.tgsphoto.co.uk/forum_images/cc004.jpg
Making a quick start...
http://www.tgsphoto.co.uk/forum_images/cc009.jpg
And some more racing...
http://www.tgsphoto.co.uk/forum_images/cc005.jpg
http://www.tgsphoto.co.uk/forum_images/cc002.jpg
http://www.tgsphoto.co.uk/forum_images/cc011.jpg
PhotosGuy
8th of June 2005 (Wed), 19:12
Nice shots!
gmen
9th of June 2005 (Thu), 12:20
Nice shots!
Thanks Frank!I'm hopeful that they'll damp down the track a little more for the next meeting as the dust storm was pretty intense at times!
--- Gavin
Croasdail
9th of June 2005 (Thu), 12:30
I know there has been this discussion a million of times - and far be it for me to critique your work - ( but what the heck - let's throw caution to the wind) - on the last image - had you come up 1 stop and been able to have all 4 riders in the pack in focus - do you think that would have helped or detracted making it so there was no one center focus and attention.... I mean I am being really a nit here as the images are already perfect - just wondering if in this case it would be uber-perfect.
Then again - once you have the exposure nailed - why mess with it.
Cheers.
gmen
9th of June 2005 (Thu), 12:46
I know there has been this discussion a million of times - and far be it for me to critique your work - ( but what the heck - let's throw caution to the wind) - on the last image - had you come up 1 stop and been able to have all 4 riders in the pack in focus - do you think that would have helped or detracted making it so there was no one center focus and attention.... I mean I am being really a nit here as the images are already perfect - just wondering if in this case it would be uber-perfect.
Then again - once you have the exposure nailed - why mess with it.
Cheers.
It's a fair point! I shot the image in question (with the 135mm f/2) at 1/400s, f/2.8 at ISO1600 - so I didn't have a stop in hand without going to ISO3200. I might be shooting some more speedway this weekend... if so I'm inspired to experiment with stopping down a little as it will be a daytime meeting.
My only concern is that once the DOF extends further across width of the track (to encompass all the riders), the backgrounds are so cluttered with adverts, fences, spectators and general c**p that they'll start to intrude. However, once I introduce a little bit of panning then then may not be the case.
--- Gavin
Cadwell
9th of June 2005 (Thu), 13:14
Nice shots Gavin. It seems Paul Robinson does a very good "rabbit trapped in headlights" impression when being photographed. He should take some lessons from the speedway rider in appearing natural in front of a camera.
In terms of the DoF affect, I like it shallow. It gives the images a much more 3D quality. I suspect a larger DoF would make the images look flatter.
Croasdail
9th of June 2005 (Thu), 13:28
Absolutely don't want to mess with something that is working really well already - that is for sure. And not knowing the venue - I can 't really speak with any authority anyway. It looks like there is about 6 - 8 feet in focus. With that lens - I don't really know how much more would be in focus stopping down 1 stop - could be a couple of feet to either side - or much worse. You surely want to stay away from getting that fence in focus. Just absorbing - trying to figure out what rules are absolute... and when playing with might be in order. If you feel adventurous next time out - share what you learned. Cheers all....
Simon Harrison
9th of June 2005 (Thu), 14:19
Great shots as usual. Really like that start line shot. Perfect shutter speed to blur out the back wheel while keeping everything tack sharp.
Cheers,
Simon.
skade
9th of June 2005 (Thu), 16:35
Fantastic shots as always gmen! Those two guys in the first shot are just HOT! Thanks for that lol
PhotosGuy
10th of June 2005 (Fri), 07:50
I thought that the dust added interest to the shots?
What's that hanging off the back of the bike in #s 3-6? Looks like a handle & a mud flap?
robekert
10th of June 2005 (Fri), 11:10
Gavin,
Nicely crafted shots. I crave this golden, almost horizontal, light. It is some of my favorite light to shoot in. Too bad it does not hang around long. The portrait is very good too. I think your DOF choice was fine for these shots.
Cheers,
Rob
DwightMcCann
10th of June 2005 (Fri), 12:34
I like 'em just as they are ... grand work!
gmen
12th of June 2005 (Sun), 02:14
I thought that the dust added interest to the shots?
What's that hanging off the back of the bike in #s 3-6? Looks like a handle & a mud flap?
*lol* The dust certainly does add interest but it also adds an ever-thickening brown layer to your clothes and camera gear! More dust here...
http://www.tgsphoto.co.uk/forum_images/cc012.jpg
As for that thing hanging off the back of the bike, I think it is a small mudflap-type dooberry - it appears to be designed to stop the track shale flying too high in the air. You can see the shale-trail in the shot above. Hmmm...
Skip Souza
12th of June 2005 (Sun), 12:13
I am sooo envious of your talent to get such sharp, colorful shots. I am not particularly fond of speedway yet I find myself waiting in anticipation for your posts.
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