Adobe Camera RAW doesn't copy EXIF info into JPEG. Why?

[Kostyanych]

I use Adobe Camera RAW 3.1
I just did some conversion through the Bridge. And I saw that JPEGs got just a few lines from the original EXIF.

So the convertor doesn't copy EXIF info into JPEG.
Can I fix it? I didn't find any settings.... :(

[Kostyanych]

Any ideas?

[samdring]

are you using 300/10D and destroying your thm files perchance?

[tim]

Get the latest update to the raw convertor - this bug was fixed some time ago.

If you have the latest, then make sure you're using "save as" not "save for web". Save for web removes exif, save as keeps it.

[Kostyanych]

I have 20D.
I am using the latest Adobe Camera RAW (version 3.1, downloaded last week).

And I am talking about saving straight from Adobe Camera RAW (there is a Save button). I know about "Save for web", but it's not available from there...
So I just open Adobe Camera RAW, change settings, Press SAVE button.

That's the copy of EXIF in JPEG after this operation....

Camera
Make Canon
Model Canon EOS 20D
Date/time 15/06/2005 11:13:04 PM
Image
Image description
Artist Konstantin
Copyright
Exposure time 1/40 s
F-number f/4.5
Exposure program Normal program
ISO speed ratings 100
Date/time original 14/06/2005 12:44:33 PM
Aperture value f/4.5
Metering mode Pattern
Flash Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
User comment

That's it. Nothing else. :(

[Kostyanych]

I just tried to open file (not just save).
And then saved with a Save command.
Same result. :(

Tim, what version of Adobe Camera RAW do you have?
I have 3.1. Is this the latest?

Now I am not sure.... :(

[tim]

What other information do you want in your JPG EXIF? You could try opening it in photoshop proper, then using save as, see if it's any different.

I use CS2 and haven't had a problem, and CS1 worked fine for this too.

[Kostyanych]

What other information do you want in your JPG EXIF?

Focal Length, for example.... :)


You could try opening it in photoshop proper, then using save as, see if it's any different.

Sorry, Tim, I can't understand what do you mean 'Try opening it in photoshop proper'...
I think there is only one way to open RAW files in PS - Camera RAW.

Thank you very much. :)

May be my question was stupid. :)

[tim]

You can open a RAW document in Photoshop, though it probably calls ACR to do the work. Give it a go, it won't hurt and maybe it'll work :)

[Kostyanych]

I tired before.... Same result....

It looks like ACR doesn't take full exif ...

Well, forget about it. :) I think, there is no way to do it. I didn't find any options. :(
But it doesn't matter. :)

[lancea]

So the convertor doesn't copy EXIF info into JPEG.
Don't give up :) Camera RAW 3.1 does indeed copy focal length into the JPEG, amongst other EXIF data - at least for me.

What are you using to view the EXIF data in your JPEGs? I've tried it with BreezeBrowser Pro, ThumbsPlus, PolyView and ExifPro. These are all available as trial versions, and all of them show lots of values. I recommend you at least try ExifPro (from http://www.exifpro.com).

[Kostyanych]

:) Thanks for the support. :)

Can I ask you to send me a file just as example....
I will compare wtah have you got in EXIF to my files.. :)

I am using ACDSee 7.0.
But it can't show some specific stuff....
At least I remember the Canon EOS Viewer can show me a type of the lens from the EXIF (like Lens "100-300mm") as well as Focal Length for the shot, but ACDSee can show Focal Length only.

Anyway, Thanks for the link. I will have a look.

[lancea]

Here's a tiny bit of a shot cropped and saved straight out of ACR. I notice that the type of lens, i.e. 17-40, is not included. Things like flash, ISO, focal length, shutter, f-stop, exposure mode are however all there.

[tim]

There's no EXIF in that tiny pic at all, Lancea.

[lancea]

Works for me. I'm on a different computer now and I just saved the image, then viewed the EXIF in ThumbsPlus 7. It's there all right.

[tim]

Yeah you're right - the Opanda utility inside firefox can't see the exif info, but I can see it in ACDSee.

[lancea]

That's good. I'm afraid you don't qualify for a prize for identifying the building ;)

[tim]

This extension (http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/fxif/) works much better :)

[J Rabin]

Kost...
Am I missing boat here? Open an image converted through ACR. Go to File>File Info>Advanced EXIF or >Camera Data 1.
Are you saying info is not there when you do that?
J

Edit: Ooops. I read further and get it, it's a browser software limitation. Problem is that different browser software makers implement various subsets of EXIF "they" think consumer users will want most. J.

[Kostyanych]

Well, it seems to me I have got the answer. :)
It looks like ACR saves Exif a little bit different way. (Probably it's about different versions of EXIF).
So some EXIF info is getting invisible for some programs.
I checked my image (converted from the RAW) in ACDSee and in PS CS2 (File Info).
In PS I can see a couple of lines, which are mising in the ACDSee.
These two lines are FOCAL LENGTH and LENS. :)
Yes, in PS I can see the focal range (it says 24.0-85.0mm) of the lens and the focal length of the shot. That's the thing I was looking for. But the rest of exif is gone anyway...
But the focal length was the thing I was really missing....
So PS just moved this info somewhere so it's getting invisible for ACDSee.

[lancea]

Glad we've (sort of) resolved it. I guess there's just so much potential EXIF info that the developers simply choose what they prefer. It does however look like ACR doesn't copy everything either. Some things won't be very useful anyway once the image is changed (e.g. cropped).

[J Rabin]

Additionally...
Canon locks some of the EXIF as proprietary, and shows it to no browser software developer. iView MediaPro shows most fields. I think Photo Mechanic is one of the best also. PSCS doesn't put it somewhere, the developers just decide not to implement the full EXIF protocol.
J

[Kostyanych]

Looks like this...
I preffer to make my own selection what to save and what to delete.
But we don't have this choice...