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New Hobby
1st of December 2009 (Tue), 12:49
I have a bit of a head scratcher. I've been shooting preforming band shots and have noticed when I use flash the people who get most of the flash get a cool color cast to them. I have gelled the flash to set it to Tungsten lamp (about 3200K). I'm thinking I need to go lower with the gel.

Anyone have this issue and what type of gel was used to warm up the subjects?

Dermit
1st of December 2009 (Tue), 13:47
What do you mean by 'band' shots? Like rock and roll on stage with crazy spots and ambient lights all around? Or a high school marching band? If you are shooting live performance on stage type of bands I would say do not use flash. I shoot theater all the time and even if I was aloud to use flash I wouldn't.... it just kills the actual look of the setting.

New Hobby
1st of December 2009 (Tue), 14:13
What do you mean by 'band' shots? Like rock and roll on stage with crazy spots and ambient lights all around? Or a high school marching band? If you are shooting live performance on stage type of bands I would say do not use flash. I shoot theater all the time and even if I was aloud to use flash I wouldn't.... it just kills the actual look of the setting.

Shooting rock type with crazy spots. Was using it as more of a fill but it's changeling the color temp of the subjects.
In a perfect world I would not use flash but things like hats etc can cast some ugly shadows.

dpds68
1st of December 2009 (Tue), 14:18
Check out the Performing Arts section

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=81

New Hobby
1st of December 2009 (Tue), 14:23
Check out the Performing Arts section

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=81

Thanks. I poked around there for a bit and didn't see anything. I was thinking it was more of a flash question then a performing arts question.

dpds68
1st of December 2009 (Tue), 14:37
No Problem I was thinking in terms of seeing how others are handling the same lighting situations .

Dermit
1st of December 2009 (Tue), 14:38
Color temps of lights used for live performance is all over the map. There is no way anyone is going to be able to tell you how to balance your flash to an unknown color temp. Stage lighting often times purposely is non-neutral. You must realize that you should not always try and make the lighting neutral, especially when it comes to live performance and stage lighting. Again, I never use flash because it introduces a look that is not there, yes even for just trying to fill. If the shadows from the spots are distracting, change the angle you are shooting from so they are less so. Nothing will look as good as when you nail a great live stage shot under the lights they are providing. Flash will almost always kill shots like this.

When I shoot theater I set WB to tungsten and forget it. I may tweak it in post, but usually not by much. If the performers are lit in a blue light to convey darkness or cold, then that's how the shot should look when you capture it.

Wilt
2nd of December 2009 (Wed), 11:13
I lke to gel my speedlight flash on a semipermanent basis with a 1/8 CTO filter. My studio flash needs no such warming. Both comments are in the context of shooting weddings and events, not stage work.