Which LCD Monitor? HP LP2475w or Dell U2410

[Sakura1234]

I did some search around, and it seems these two LCD monitors are often preferred due to the H-IPS panel (or whatever it means).

HP LP2475w or Dell U2410?

Or anyone have any other suggestion?
(Note I'm in Aus, so bargains in US isn't going to help me :( )

[ChasP505]

The main difference, which may not be important to you, is that the Dell U2410 has a 12 bit internal LUT, just like the high end NECs and Eizos. This allows you, with the proper calibration software, to do more calibrations adjustments directly within the monitor's hardware, instead of having the 8 bit video card LUT do all the work. Better color accuracy, smoother tonal transitions, etc.

The U2410, from what Dell claims, is factory calibrated to a higher standard than your typical consumer level monitor.

[Sakura1234]

The main difference, which may not be important to you, is that the Dell U2410 has a 12 bit internal LUT, just like the high end NECs and Eizos. This allows you, with the proper calibration software, to do more calibrations adjustments directly within the monitor's hardware, instead of having the 8 bit video card LUT do all the work. Better color accuracy, smoother tonal transitions, etc.

The U2410, from what Dell claims, is factory calibrated to a higher standard than your typical consumer level monitor.

Well, I have the Spyder3 Pro, so I guess Dell would work out better then?

[ChasP505]

Well, I have the Spyder3 Pro, so I guess Dell would work out better then?

Nope... you'd need software that has "DDC" functionality, to allow the software to make direct adjustments to the monitor without you physically working the control buttons.

I think both of these wide gamut monitors can be a bear to calibrate if you're not experienced. it wouldn't hurt to do a Google search on "calibrating HP LP2745W" and "calibrating Dell U2410". You'll find other people's experiences and can make a more informed decision.

[basroil]

Just remember though, U2410 and hp 2475w use the same base panel, so why not go with the cheaper, better supported dell?

[crashthenet44]

...And both have the same panel uniformity issues and the Dell has the whole sRGB dithering problem. Do yourself a favor and read this thread (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1441159) over at Hardforum about the U2410 before you make a purchase. To me the uniformity issue with the LG panel that both Dell and HP use is a real deal breaker. As much as I like the price of the Dell, I'm going to bite the bullet and spend the extra $500-$600 on an LCD2490WUXI2 or LCD2690WUXI2.

EDIT: If anyone here has first hand experience with the U2410 I'm sure the OP(and myself) would like to hear from you.

[Sakura1234]

Hmm. so for which LCD should I choose at around $500? Any ideas?

I've heard people mention the problem with these monitors, but I don't see any better options. :confused:

[crashthenet44]

This is rub with getting a 24" IPS panel for so cheap. There's a reason the NEC and Eizo equivalents are at least twice as expensive.

If you are dead set on a 24" LCD then I'd wait a little bit. See if the A01 revision of the U2410 addresses the color shift issue. Though I wouldn't hold my breath, as I think all this revision is going address is the dithering problem.

There are some interesting options in the 23" realm. The NEC EA231WMi and Viewsonic VP2365wb are both E-IPS panels that come in around $300. Problem is they are all fairly new with little info from a real world persepective.

There's also the Eizo EV2333WH that just appeared on the scene. It's a PVA panel, but appears to have gotten a Very Good rating over at Prad Review. It looks like the price will be somewhere in the $500-600 range.

Of course there is always the 2209WA. Seems to the consensus choice for budget LCDs. Plus it won't break the bank either.

[Sakura1234]

Well I'm not really dead set on a 24". 22 or 23 will do as well.

[basroil]

for 22, dell's 2209WA is good, but forget what neighsayers say, get the U2410, you won't regret it, especially if you have a gaming console. They said the same thing about my 2408WFP (sRGB issues, pink bands, uneven backlighting), yet I don't see any sRGB issues (who the hell would use sRGB on a monitor that supports hardware calibration like the u2410 anyway? ), never seen the pink band, and the uneven backlighting is limited to the corners where the tools are anyway (and nowhere near as bad as they said it was). It's up to you, but I'de suggest going somewhere and viewing the two side by side in a well controlled environment. And if you can't, you can always buy one, return if you don't like it

[Sakura1234]

for 22, dell's 2209WA is good, but forget what neighsayers say, get the U2410, you won't regret it, especially if you have a gaming console. They said the same thing about my 2408WFP (sRGB issues, pink bands, uneven backlighting), yet I don't see any sRGB issues (who the hell would use sRGB on a monitor that supports hardware calibration like the u2410 anyway? ), never seen the pink band, and the uneven backlighting is limited to the corners where the tools are anyway (and nowhere near as bad as they said it was). It's up to you, but I'de suggest going somewhere and viewing the two side by side in a well controlled environment. And if you can't, you can always buy one, return if you don't like it

Honestly, that's what I'm thinking. I doubt the problem is so big it'll irritate me. I mean I used a 19" TN monitor for like 2+ years already.

The thing is, 22", 23", 24" really makes not much difference to me.

All I need is a good solid decently sized LCD monitor. :lol:

[basroil]

Honestly, that's what I'm thinking. I doubt the problem is so big it'll irritate me. I mean I used a 19" TN monitor for like 2+ years already.

I had a 17" for three years, then a 19" for two, and when I finally got the 24" it seemed huge... But then I got used to it. Then came my second 24", and that seemed like a rediculous waste of desk space... but then I learned that I could watch fullscreen 1080p video on one and edit photos or do other things on the other, and I learned to love it quickly :D

[Sakura1234]

Just remember though, U2410 and hp 2475w use the same base panel, so why not go with the cheaper, better supported dell?

Cheaper? Yes.

Butter supported? I just got off the phone, and I wouldn't call a company that have problem talking to its customer in english "better support".

[Bobster]

been using a 2475 for the past 10 months without a hitch, but i know u guys in the US have had trouble with your models

[BluewookieJim]

I've been extremely happy with my 2475. I've had it well over a year now. If anything, I wish I had another one, as I'm currently pairing mine with a Dell 19" standard LCD display in portrait orientation.

[basroil]

Cheaper? Yes.

Butter supported? I just got off the phone, and I wouldn't call a company that have problem talking to its customer in english "better support".

I think you have "support" and "customer support" as synonyms, they aren't. Dell has a zero-defect policy on all ultrasharp and the u2410 monitors, so if there is a single dead pixel, new screen for you. And that carries over throughout the warranty period (in case you get an extended warranty). Driver support is also very good with dell, I can still find drivers for my r450 I got over a decade ago.

[doubledragon]

been using a 2475 for the past 10 months without a hitch, but i know u guys in the US have had trouble with your models

no problems here ... should I be looking for some specific problem? i've had my 2475w for about a year.