View Full Version : About when does the 10D start to wear out?
ShutteringFocus
12th of June 2005 (Sun), 17:58
I'm in the market for a used 10D. Some of these cameras that are available have been around for a while and a number of them have as many as 50,000+ shutter snaps on them.
That sounds like a lot to me, but maybe they can handle it.
Is there a number of shutter snaps that is like the wall? A number that I should try to stay under?
twalker294
12th of June 2005 (Sun), 22:14
The shutter on the 10D is rated for 20,000 cycles. I have just under 24,000 on mine and it hasn't failed yet. I have no doubt that it will and when it does, it's about a $200 repair if I remember correctly. I'll repair it and continue using it. It's a workhorse and I've been nothing but pleased with mine. 50,000 does sound like a lot of use -- I'd try to find one closer to the 10-20,000 range personally...
Todd
bikefreak
12th of June 2005 (Sun), 22:18
I know you are talking about the 10D, but one of the selling points on the 20D compared to the Rebel XT is the 20D has a 100,000 cycle life compared to the 50,000 for the Rebel. That is if I read the information correctly.
DW
twalker294
12th of June 2005 (Sun), 22:28
I know you are talking about the 10D, but one of the selling points on the 20D compared to the Rebel XT is the 20D has a 100,000 cycle life compared to the 50,000 for the Rebel. That is if I read the information correctly.
DW
Where are you getting your numbers from? If you are correct then my number for the 10D must be off because I know the 10D is rated for more cycles than the Rebel. I have looked on Canon's page as well as searching with Google and I can't find any concrete shutter rating for the 10D. I know that 20,000 is stuck in my mind but I may be wrong...
Todd
Jesper
13th of June 2005 (Mon), 00:50
Where are you getting your numbers from? If you are correct then my number for the 10D must be off because I know the 10D is rated for more cycles than the Rebel. I have looked on Canon's page as well as searching with Google and I can't find any concrete shutter rating for the 10D. I know that 20,000 is stuck in my mind but I may be wrong...Well, where are *you* getting your numbers from (20,000)? Canon doesn't officially specify the number of cycles that the shutter is rated for for the non-1-series cameras. Cameras like the 1D, 1Ds etc. do have official specs and the numbers are between 100,000 and 200,000. There's no official spec for the 10D, 20D or Digital Rebel, but I think you can expect your 10D's shutter to last more than 20,000 shots.
By the way, if the shutter breaks, it's not so that you have to throw away the whole camera - the original question seems to sound like that ("About when does the 10D start to wear out?"). You can have the shutter replaced.
Canuck
13th of June 2005 (Mon), 05:22
I haven't had any problems yet...I cracked 12,500 yesterday evening and still going strong.
Cadwell
13th of June 2005 (Mon), 05:29
The commonly accepted figure for the 10D used to an MTBF of 50,000. That's why Canon made a fuss about "doubling the shutter lifetime" when they launched the 20D - although I agree, Canon never published figures for the 10D.
Pekka
13th of June 2005 (Mon), 05:33
D30: 20,000
D60: 45,000
So 10D must me equal or more (maybe 60,000). These figures are average - they can last longer, or less.
1D does 150,000 and Mark II does 200,000.
acura nsx pilot
13th of June 2005 (Mon), 09:02
Stupid newbie question but " How do you find out how many shutter snaps the cam took ? "
Pekka
13th of June 2005 (Mon), 09:41
Stupid newbie question but " How do you find out how many shutter snaps the cam took ? "
Only Canon repair can tell. There is an internal total counter which is not visible to end user (don't ask why).
twalker294
13th of June 2005 (Mon), 09:43
It depends on how you have your numbering scheme set up in the camera. I have mine set to not reset the numbers each time I empty the card, as I have a feeling most people do. Then you just have to look at the filename to know what the counter is at. Image IMG_2400.JPG is the 2400th picture you have taken, unless you have rolled the counter over which happens after 9999. I have rolled the counter on mine twice so my IMG_2400.JPG is picture number 22,400.
Todd
Anders Östberg
13th of June 2005 (Mon), 10:12
Q: About when does the 10D start to wear out?
A: Just about when your most important photo session has started.
:)
ron chappel
13th of June 2005 (Mon), 22:37
Those that say canon doesn't specify actual numbers are right.
From a variety of owners experiences on the net it seems 60000 may be the upper limit of the D30,D60,10D (and one could safely assume the 300D and 350D also)
I've heard several stories of hard users replacing shutters around the 60000 mark but not nessesarily from failure.One was a D30 which was not timing acurately anymore (the shutter sync speed had dropped)
MarkH
14th of June 2005 (Tue), 00:18
I'm in the market for a used 10D. Some of these cameras that are available have been around for a while and a number of them have as many as 50,000+ shutter snaps on them.
That sounds like a lot to me, but maybe they can handle it.
Is there a number of shutter snaps that is like the wall? A number that I should try to stay under?
From the replies here the answer is obvious - at 50,000+ shots fired you should pay about 200 less because the shutter could need replacing at any time.
If you can find a 10D working well with only 10K-20K shots fired then the shutter should hopefully be good for at least 2 or 3 years of decent use.
Simon Harrison
14th of June 2005 (Tue), 06:03
My 10D took 65,000+ before the shutter went and had to be replaced (£130 in UK). Bear in mind that the shutter lifes quoted are mean times before failure i.e. some will go before the number quoted and some will last longer.
Cheers,
Simon.
ron chappel
14th of June 2005 (Tue), 08:18
I'm often amazed at the price quoted for a complete shutter replacement on a digital SLR ,considering the camera has to be allmost completely disassembled to do this .
JABACo
5th of July 2005 (Tue), 16:49
I don't know when the normal 10D begins to wear out but my shutter began to go the fritz around 70,000 snaps. I just replaced it with a 20D and will be sending my 10D in for a shutter replacement.
ScottE
5th of July 2005 (Tue), 20:22
I don't know about the 10D, but my D60 started to wear out the first time I had a good look at a 20D. So many things were improved that the D60 seemed to have suddenly aged into obsolescence. It still takes good pictures though, if you have time to wait for the slow start up, slow auto focus and long delay between action shots.
Croasdail
7th of July 2005 (Thu), 23:27
My 10d passed 100k last month and is still clicking away just fine. The meter needed service - but that is it.
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