20D or 1D mark II... may be for WEDDING?

[Crost_10D]

Hi....
I currently have 10d and have been taking lots of good pictures. I'm very pleased with the camera... but anyway:
I want to ask those photogrphers who experienced both 20d and 1d mark II. I would like to start shooting wedding. Can you tell me what would be so different and helpful for me getting 1d Mark II versus 20d? Thank you, guys in advance. Crost.

[johnlo]

personally I think using your 10D is fine especially if you are just getting into shooting weddings. Make some money first, then invest into another and better camera. The different between the 1D and 20D is the price tag. Of course the 1D has better chipset, Bigger body (built in Grip), has IEEE 1394, optional wireless, and many others. They both are 8 megapixel.

use this chart to compare...
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ProductCompareNWAct&fcategoryid=139&modelid=9808

[Crost_10D]

Thank you, Johnlo.
I really think it's a good idea.
Thanks for the link.

[johnlo]

I forgot to add.. I personally LOVE the 1D. If it wasnt because of the price tag, I would have gotten that instead of the 20D. of course not to say the 20D isnt great. I think if you are planning to upgrade, go for the 1D. better yet, go for the 1Ds. :-D

[AjP]

if u can afford 1D or 1Ds, go for it, 20D is great for wedding too, 1D and 20D has same image processor, same mega pixels, the difference in several functions, battery grip... if u just starting and in limited budget, get 20D and if it will go well, you can get 1D or 1Ds and use 20D as back up

[NJames73]

My camera is still on order so I can't 100% say, but maybe I can help you narrow it down from all the research I have done.....My wife and I shoot weddings. This is her primary source of income...I think she has about 30 or so booked for this summer.....Anyway.....we were set to buy the 1DM2.....(I wanted the 1Ds)....after much talk...(with an owner of both 1Ds and 1DM2) and much research on the internet.......we landed on the 20D......sure there are some features you lose by choosing the 20D but from what I can tell the image quality is the same (as the 1DM2)......We decided on the 20D....and spent the remaining monies on glass.....Now I have a great start in that area and can always upgrade in the future body wise......If it were me....I would get a 20D...and Glass....Hope that helps...

but if money is no issue.......go for the gusto and get it all.:D

[Mark_48]

Your 10D would probably be fine for a wedding, but I would recommend having something as a backup, unless you can put your utmost trust in the 10D to perform flawlessly throughout the entire event. If you got the 20D rather than the 1D MKII and then used the 10D as your backup, you'd have a bit of cash to use on other essentials such as quality lenses, an upgrading of a flash unit, more memory cards, flash bracket, post processing software, etc.

My opinion would be to hold off on the 1D MKII until you start deriving a steady income from your work (unless you've just hit the lottery and need a good excuse to get one :lol: ).
And you may find that doing weddings just isn't for you.

[antaine]

Nate, your portrait + contact pages are down/missing - lovely site btw!

[ShadowFlyP]

Of course the 1D has better chipset, Bigger body (built in Grip), has IEEE 1394, optional wireless, and many others.


Chipset? I thought they both have the Digic2?
Optional Wireless? 20D has this too.

The big advantages that I see are the SD card slot, 8fps instead of 5, and probably a better autofocus/exposure system (since it is a pro-camera, but I don't have any experience).

[GyRob]

the 1dmk2 has a better feel to it and is slightly faster ,it has so many custom bits /settings i get confused :) so just set a couple ,the camera is very heavy to hold for a long time.
the screen is a little brighter and thats nice, i have the money so i bought one but it does nothing much better than my 20d and to be honest about it buying the 1dmk2 showed me just how good the 20D really is .
one point the 1dmk2 is weather sealed and for me that matters.
Rob.

[NJames73]

Antaine.......thank you for the compliment.....the site is still under construction..thats why those 2 pages wont load.....Crost...if you visit my site I think you will be comfortable with the decission to go with the 20D as all the pictures that are currently on there we shot with a Minolta 35mm camera with basically consumer lenses.....(no post production) That is why we are so stoked to be getting the 20D and Photoshop.....I really think you should go with the 20D but make sure you have the glass to back it up. Just my worthless opinion.

[johnlo]

Chipset? I thought they both have the Digic2?
Optional Wireless? 20D has this too.

yes, you are correct. I was thinking about the 1Ds Mark II. thats has a different CMOS Sensor (Full Frame). and for the wireless file transmitter.. it works with the 20D? hmmm, come to think about it. you are correct i believe. Damn, I think I should drink my coffee before posting in here. hahah

[booggerg]

I just worked a wedding with a photog who shot with a 1dMKII. The advantage I saw was that he was able to shoot many off-angle shots without looking into the viewfinder. Just aim and shoot. I don't think you'd want to trust the 20D's AF for a task like that...

[shiato storm]

I was thinking about the 1Ds Mark II. thats has a different CMOS Sensor (Full Frame).
full frame on the 1ds, 1.3 crop on on the 1d and 1.6 crop on 20d if I'm not much mistaken...being a film user I can really appreciate the value the full frame aspect of the 1ds gives you, thing is I dont have one (wish I did though). its the thing about being able to use wideangle lenses without worry from one media type to the next knowing I would get the same visual range, and that the sensor is so superb it rivals slide film. unfortunately I, along with many millions, cannot predict that the next update in digital bodies will have slightly larger sensors. that canon have released ef-s lenses, specifically designed for small sensors, indicates the smaller sensors will be around for some time. the 1d (mkII) with its 1.3 crop is favourable to the smaller 1.6 but again my 17 to 35mm becomes 22 to 45. ok, so its still wideangle but i've lost a good 5mm!

[Feihung08]

I just worked a wedding with a photog who shot with a 1dMKII. The advantage I saw was that he was able to shoot many off-angle shots without looking into the viewfinder. Just aim and shoot. I don't think you'd want to trust the 20D's AF for a task like that...Oh on the contrary! I was shooting at a Quinceanrea (Mexican Sweet 16) party this past weekend and was told that the couples would make an entrance into the hall and stop to be announced. Well, being JUST 16 they didn't listen well and just came walking in full stream! I was setup on a tripod because I wanted more of the ambient light, but once they started "pouring in" I had to act lightning fast and pull my 20D off the tripod and take an emergency shot. I thought NO WAY did this shot come out because I just held the camera out to the left and snapped! No look! Now I know it's by no means a 'money shot' as you can tell by comp and huge shadow but both kids are showing and are IN focus!! *whew*

[CyberDyneSystems]

Hi....
I currently have 10d and have been taking lots of good pictures. I'm very pleased with the camera... but anyway:
I want to ask those photogrphers who experienced both 20d and 1d mark II. I would like to start shooting wedding. Can you tell me what would be so different and helpful for me getting 1d Mark II versus 20d? Thank you, guys in advance. Crost.

I'd be perfectly comfortable using either camera.

In fact I do.

[grego]

Go with what you can comfortably afford. People mention using the 10D as a backup. you can use it as an extra body. It's always good to have two bodies to be at use at one time. One with a wide angle and then the other with a zoom type lens.

If you have the money, the Mark II is of course going to have some advantages, but if money is an issue, the 20D will get it done. Now if you want an absolute difference, the 1Ds Mark II, is a nice one. You'll be happy with whatever body you end up with I bet. Your skill will make the photos most of all, so as long as you get it done on the user end of things, everything will pay off. Good luck.