This is too Funny

[rshiflett]

http://www.countrymomentsphotography.com/WeddingPackages.html

or in case they fix their spelling errors:

Wedding Packages:
Just Want To Get Hitched - $150.00
* Two Hourse Of Photography

New Begging - $250.00
* Three Hourse Of Photography
* One 8X10 Framed
* One 8X10
* Two 5X7 (same print)

Whole New World - $300.00
* Four Hours Of Photography
* Two 8X10 Framed
* All Photos on Disk (with Copy Right)

Some Where Over The Rainbow - $500.00
* Six Hours of Phtography
* All Photos on Disk (with Copy Right)
* Photo Album with all 4X6 Prints
* 8X10 Photo Book (of best photos)
* Four 8X10 Framed

[wyofizz]

I liked the content of their photos. I do hope they learn how to fix horizons in PP before they do a wedding :)

[MJPhotos24]

Old saying.......................you get what you pay for!

[EmmaRose]

We would welcome the opportunity to earn your trust and deliver you the best service in the industry.

:')

[Canonymous]

*travel with-in 30 miles then .45 cents after.Interesting condition. So to book an interstate session, travel will cost $30 and 45 cents?

[Picture North Carolina]

Hey, their customers are from the mold!

Here's one of the testimonials:

Chase and Krystal have been great to work with. They took time and patients to work with my pets and delivered great photo's. Thanks"
Amy Walker

(So what does "They took time and patients..." mean - they took hostages from a local hospital? :lol: )

[gravy graffix]

Old saying.......................you get what you pay for!

and they def got EVERYTHING they paid for...

[alduin]

Interesting condition. So to book an interstate session, travel will cost $30 and 45 cents?

No no... that's point-four-five cents... so the extra miles are $0.0045.

[nicksan]

I can't imagine how they make a meaningful profit at those prices.

[joedlh]

They don't seem to be interested in eye contact. Too many pictures of people walking away from the camera. It could be a metaphor for their business.

[dolfinack]

I do hope they learn how to fix horizons in PP before they do a wedding :)

Geeeez every single one I mean c'mon!!

[kwb]

We our here when you need us...., from Country Moments Photography


I don't really have a problem with them catering to low budget costumers but the spelling and grammer errors need to be addressed.

[CAL Imagery]

They don't seem to be interested in eye contact. Too many pictures of people walking away from the camera. It could be a metaphor for their business.
I noticed that too. I can't recall pictures of people moving away, except perhaps on a wedding shoot when the B&G are driving away, from the photographer.

[CAL Imagery]

, from Country Moments Photography


I don't really have a problem with them catering to low budget costumers but the spelling and grammer errors need to be addressed.
Indeed. :lol:

[kwb]

Indeed. :lol:



Where's the face slap emoticon. :o

[jetcode]

they should offer a

Busted in Vegas Package
* 1 photo of you and your unmarried spouse

... on the streets begging for change to catch the bus home after gaming all the money away at the black jack table just hours before the actual wedding.

[hawkeye60]

Package number two. New Begging? Could they have meant Beginning?

I'd never consider dealing with anyone who obviously has taken no care in building their website. The lack of attention to detail in their site would almost certainly be reflected in their photography as well. The photos bear out my theory.

[DaddyinKC]

"Specializing in low cost photography"

WOW! What a tag line....unbelievable.

[gravy graffix]

"Specializing in low talent photography"

WOW! What a tag line....unbelievable.


there...I fixed it.

this is really wrong though, we should not be posting others sites for open jabs. At least they are not doing it free, or overpriced... There are a lot around here that are like WTF , they get paid? AND it has a COMMA in it?!!!

[Willie]

Honestly, why are you trashing others' sites? Yeah, it's funny stuff, but people need to get off their high horses.

It's not like they're ripping anyone off, and if the clients are happy, who cares?

Besides, name one part-time job where you can go out on a Saturday and make $150 for 2 hours of work.

[loydall]

:) :) :)

[Zansho]

Loydall, POTN rules state that we can't post images that are not our own. I'd take down that image before a mod asks you to do so.

And while I agree that the site is...less than stellar, they seem to be getting clients. Some people don't care about the grammar and spelling and punctuation of a site, and instead just go by on the photos.

Although, some of hte photos in there are severely lacking. /shrugs. Maybe for the average consumer they're decent enough.

Edit: Nevermind.. I took a longer look at some of their images. There seems to be the same two models in most of them and not enough variety to suggest they're getting a lot of client work.

[nicksan]

Oh come on - this is a funny photo:



Surely we're alowed to laugh at that?


Probably against the rules to post a photo like this from another site.

[Zansho]

Honestly, why are you trashing others' sites? Yeah, it's funny stuff, but people need to get off their high horses.

It's not like they're ripping anyone off, and if the clients are happy, who cares?

Besides, name one part-time job where you can go out on a Saturday and make $150 for 2 hours of work.


It technically isn't 2 hours of work. Travel to the destination, equipment setup time, assessing the location for shoot ideas, equipment costs/rentals/upkeep, shooting time, post production, burning images to a CD (or uploading to a gallery), print orders...

It's probably more like 8 hours of work.

[Willie]

Looking at their site, do you think there's any PP invloved? Or even location assessment or equip rental? I could shoot most of that with Rebel kit.

It looks to me like $150 for 2 hours of shooting. Driving is moot point, since most of us have to drive to our jobs anyway.

[Zansho]

Driving is never moot point. You do spend money on gas, mileage should be deducted for tax purposes, insurance for your vehicle, etc etc.

They're not doing it from a business standpoint, hence why some of the folks on here are wondering how they're making a profit (myself included).

There HAS to be some kind of location assessment (omg, I totally know this place with this rockin' chain fence, yo!) for your shoots. You don't just go and drive randomly and hope for a place that's a good location to shoot. They might, but I certainly do not.

And there is PP involved to change a color image over to black and white :).

[Willie]

How do you know that this isn't a part-time job and they're just looking for extra income?

I never said you would not deduct mileage. Driving is a moot point in the sense that you have to drive regardless, and should be factored in the cost. You have to drive if you work at McDonald's or if you work a white collar job. Your tolerance to distance would be based on what you made an hour. At $75/hr, I would drive a greater distance than if I had to flip burgers. Plus, longer distances are covered at $0.45/mile.

Look at the location. It's rural VA, and the photos suggest clientele that aren't spending much money on the ceremony. They might only spend $40 on the cake!

$75/hr for someone who might have other income in that area where the other options are probably WalMart or McDonalds doesn't sound too bad. I laid tile for $50/hr one day and busted my a*s doing it, and I thought that was high. I'd gladly trade that day to drive and show up with my camera and shoot for a couple of hours for $150.

[bacchanal]

Actually, the lower end packages aren't super cheap if you look at their print prices. Assuming the "package" fee includes exactly what it says it does and that they would supposedly make money off prints. Of course, the economics change a bit with the CD packages. Their pricing just doesn't make much sense.

[amfoto1]

Crazy low pricing... They won't be in business very long unless they raise them. They obviously haven't done a cost of doing business analysis.

Look at the portrait pricing... No sitting or shooting fee I can see. That means you just buy the prints... So it appears they'll go out and shoot for $30, a small print package included, for the lowest priced package.

And the mileage.... actually it doesn't say "per mile".... so I guess there's just a single .45 cent (that's right, less than half a penny) charge for any mileage over 30... whether it's 2 miles or 200?

Thus the need to have someone proof your website.... and give you honest, critical feedback.

Not to mention working as a second shooter with someone experienced, to better learn why ultra-low pricing is pretty much certain to put you out of business in very short order.

Doesn't really matter whether this is part time or full time... If they don't charge enough to replace the cameras, lenses and accessories they are wearing out, if they are still running heavily in the red two years down the road, they ain't gonna be stayin' in binez!

[Zansho]

Crazy low pricing... They won't be in business very long unless they raise them. They obviously haven't done a cost of doing business analysis.

Look at the portrait pricing... No sitting or shooting fee I can see. That means you just buy the prints... So it appears they'll go out and shoot for $30, a small print package included, for the lowest priced package.

And the mileage.... actually it doesn't say "per mile".... so I guess there's just a single .45 cent (that's right, less than half a penny) charge for any mileage over 30... whether it's 2 miles or 200?

Thus the need to have someone proof your website.... and give you honest, critical feedback.

Not to mention working as a second shooter with someone experienced, to better learn why ultra-low pricing is pretty much certain to put you out of business in very short order.

Doesn't really matter whether this is part time or full time... If they don't charge enough to replace the cameras, lenses and accessories they are wearing out, if they are still running heavily in the red two years down the road, they ain't gonna be stayin' in binez!

He just said everything I wanted to say.

Regardless if it's a weekend warrior or a full time wedding studio, a cost of doing business analysis is a VERY good idea to put your prices in the right area.

$500 bucks for 6 hours of shooting and all that stuff they offer? A wedding isn't just shooting. You have consultations with the clients, orders, album purchases, Post Production, travel to and from wedding location, insurance, equipment costs (better have a backup for your backup), website maintenance, business card printing - I could go on and on.

If they were to do a REAL CoDB, I bet you they would be seeing something like $10-11.00/hour. You'd make more flipping burgers at McDonalds with less stress involved.

[gravy graffix]

i didnt know hourses could hold cameras...but evidently you get 2 or 3 of them to take your pics...

[Karl Johnston]

Honestly, why are you trashing others' sites? Yeah, it's funny stuff, but people need to get off their high horses.

It's not like they're ripping anyone off, and if the clients are happy, who cares?

Besides, name one part-time job where you can go out on a Saturday and make $150 for 2 hours of work.
150 $ an hour is bare minimum, you'd be lucky to take home 50$ in profit from that once you key in all of your expenses. Two hours, 25$ for the hour of work.

It's critique they're going to get one way or another anyway

It's a rip off because they aren't providing even bare minimum professional services.

Consider this, you see a gas station the hi-way that offers gas at 10 cents a gallon. Except the gas is mixed with about 95% water. Same case scenario happening here - they have no product to deliver, their product is laughable..chances are its going to end up on the internet on a forum for real gas station owners to laugh over. :lol:

[Zansho]

Willie, we're not trying to belittle you or anything to that effect. We're just speaking from the standpoint of people who do this for a living - day in and day out. In fact, we're trying to help the folks who are staring out determine just HOW to price themselves - they can't be pulling numbers out of thin air just because they seem good. It may from an outward appearance seem like $75.00/hour, but that's not really the case.

Keep in mind, also that you don't shoot everyday. On the days that you don't shoot (if you do this for a living) you're marketing yourself, doing cold calls to prospective clients, doing the daily business (emails, shipping off orders, printing, etc), talking to vendors and whatnot - time is really the most valuable commodity that you have. That's what we charge for - and that's one of the main things that factor into our CoDB.

We have nothing against weekend warriors or anything like that - but it pains us to see people charge peanuts for their product, when they really should be charging much more and not hurting themselves AND other people's market.

[JWright]

this is really wrong though, we should not be posting others sites for open jabs.

I agree... For all we know these people are members here. How would some of you like to click on a thread with a similar title and find out it's your site that's being bad mouthed?

I sent them a note on the contact page of their site suggesting they clean up their spelling errors because it's doesn't look very professional.

[PhotosGuy]

this is really wrong though, we should not be posting others sites for open jabs. IMO, bad examples have value, & I've seen typos on members sites, too. Would you rather that everyone ignored them & didn't say something?

Seen this?
www.webpagesthatsuck.com/

[Karl Johnston]

http://www.finleysfuncenter.com/

Now this is funny

you know you need a pro photographer when.....

[MJPhotos24]

I agree... For all we know these people are members here. How would some of you like to click on a thread with a similar title and find out it's your site that's being bad mouthed?

I sent them a note on the contact page of their site suggesting they clean up their spelling errors because it's doesn't look very professional.
You learn a lot more from what you do wrong than what you do right...I've seen people disappear from this site after posting their site for critique, so be it - weak skinned don't make it as photographers or anything that is "art" because there's always critics out there. Most photographers I know ask for the harshest criticism they can get so they improve - websites, photos, anything. Hell, I can start a thread saying why my site sucks! (though I butchered it and just haven't fixed it yet).

Either way, it kills me to see a professional photographers site that has weak photos, weak business practices that are not thought out, etc. It makes people associate all photographers that way. However, an old friend that started shooting many moons ago once said something along the lines of "it's hard to get in the door, but once you're in and they see the difference you have a client for life". Almost true, though sometimes even the quality can't keep some cheap clients - so they're not clients you want anyways. BTW, this is for any business - buying online or searching for services through sites you bet I judge their site and decide to use them or not off it.

[alduin]

http://www.finleysfuncenter.com/

Now this is funny

you know you need a pro photographer when.....

1993 called... it wants its animated GIFs back. :p

[mikekelley]

"Chase and Krystal have been great to work with. They took time and patients to work with my pets and delivered great photo's. Thanks"

From the testimonials.

Oh my.

[EmmaRose]

http://www.finleysfuncenter.com/

Now this is funny

you know you need a pro photographer when.....

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!! My sound was way up and I had no idea what was going on, finleys fun center my butt!

[Ook]

http://www.finleysfuncenter.com/

That song is JAMMIN'!

[MarkAnthonyPhotography]

hey you can't knock someone for trying to make a living! Least they aren't on the street selling crack to those kids!

[S-Man]

I think I saw these photogs on Deliverance...