B&W Help please

[uglytuna]

Hi i was wondering if someone could help me out I would like to enlarge this and convert this photo to black and white I don't have much experience with B&W any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

[Flo]

I did give it a go.but the lighting does not do the gal any favors when B&W comes into play. This is underexposed, flash sure would have been your friend here...is this a possible retake?

[OdiN1701]

It's too flat and not enough contrast for a good B&W image.

[SJPHoto]

How large do you want it, and do you have the original file in raw and 300 dpi?

[uglytuna]

How large do you want it, and do you have the original file in raw and 300 dpi?
I do have the original Raw file..

[corkneyfonz]

From "photome", I have established that your photo was taken with a 5dmk2. This means that you should have the dpp software. Open your RAW file in Canon's DPP and just select the black and white picture style.

[uglytuna]

From "photome", I have established that your photo was taken with a 5dmk2. This means that you should have the dpp software. Open your RAW file in Canon's DPP and just select the black and white picture style.
I have opened up the raw file but cant seem to find the black and white picture style.

[katodog]

If you can post a link to the RAW file, it would help people out much more. Working with a small JPG is tough. But, here's a quick edit. Copied the subjects and dropped onto a sky-blue background. then pulled a gradient in Lightroom, and a B&W preset. A fast edit, a lot more can be done to it, but the RAW would help a lot...



http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a399/katodog/BeachEdit02.jpg

[uglytuna]

If you can post a link to the RAW file, it would help people out much more. Working with a small JPG is tough. But, here's a quick edit. Copied the subjects and dropped onto a sky-blue background. then pulled a gradient in Lightroom, and a B&W preset. A fast edit, a lot more can be done to it, but the RAW would help a lot...



http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a399/katodog/BeachEdit02.jpg
What is the best way to post a link for the raw file?

[katodog]

You'd have to use something like MediaFire (http://www.mediafire.com/). The good thing about MediaFire is you can use it free, the only drawback is you get pop-ups. I haven't been annoyed enough by the pop-ups to buy a paid account, but sooner or later I know I will.

Just get on there and upload your file, then drop the link in here.

[uglytuna]

You'd have to use something like MediaFire (http://www.mediafire.com/). The good thing about MediaFire is you can use it free, the only drawback is you get pop-ups. I haven't been annoyed enough by the pop-ups to buy a paid account, but sooner or later I know I will.

Just get on there and upload your file, then drop the link in here.

well let me know if this rite.
http://www.mediafire.com/?z1i32lkkmzu

[katodog]

Downloaded, but wouldn't open in Lightroom or CS3, gave an error that it wasn't the right file type. not sure what happened, trying it again.

[katodog]

Nope. Lightroom says "unsupported or damaged" and CS3 says "could not complete request because of a program error".


Never came across this before, so maybe you didn't get it uploaded correctly, or it's a damaged file. I don't know. PM coming your way...

[sparkin]

There are several ways to make a b&w from a colour image. Using the individual channels for r,g,b for example (or a mixture of two channels) will often give a more expressive image than a straight greyscale conversion or desaturation.

[troymm]

here's a quick bw edit
412055

[pickupman92]

I would just try and retake the photo.

[katodog]

The RAW file won't open, keeps giving me the same error messages. I had the thought that maybe my programs were boggled, but they open my RAW files perfectly. I think maybe that particular file is goofed, either on your end or on my end.

In any regard, it's super easy to do B&W, it just depends on what you want the end result to look like. There are tons of plug-ins and presets for Photoshop and Lightroom that will make it as easy as choosing a look and applying it. Pickupman is correct though, a re-shoot would help if you chose a different background. Just don't choose one that;s too busy. Take them out to the park and shoot against a tree or something like that.

[SJC from VT]

troymm...awesome edit. Uglytuna (terrible name) there are probably some good tuturials on here to help you convert your pictures yourself. I'm still learning myself. Though I do have a couple of books that have been helping me quite a bit. Good luck..

[PixelMagic]

Nothing is wrong with the CR2 file; most likely you're running outdated versions of Lightroom and Adobe Camera RAW which don't have support for images shot with a Canon 5D Mark II.



Nope. Lightroom says "unsupported or damaged" and CS3 says "could not complete request because of a program error".


Never came across this before, so maybe you didn't get it uploaded correctly, or it's a damaged file. I don't know. PM coming your way...

[Flo]

here's a quick bw edit
412055

Very very nicely done Troy......

[katodog]

Nothing is wrong with the CR2 file; most likely you're running outdated versions of Lightroom and Adobe Camera RAW which don't have support for images shot with a Canon 5D Mark II.


That could actually be very true, so now I'm updating my software. Thanks for the info.

[katodog]

Well, that worked, updated Lightroom and now I can see the image.

[troymm]

Very very nicely done Troy......
troymm...awesome edit.

Thanks.

[EnglishBob]

quick fix with a lazy replacement of sky.

Raw works fine in CS4.

[PixelMagic]

I took a quick shot at converting the RAW file:

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3249/canonbeach020conversion.jpg


And since I can't leave well enough alone, I replaced the sky. Its not as precise as I'd like...I'd probably come back to it later:

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3993/canonbeach020skyreplace.jpg


And finally did a B&W conversion:

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/358/canonbeach020bw.jpg



Hi i was wondering if someone could help me out I would like to enlarge this and convert this photo to black and white I don't have much experience with B&W any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

[Flo]

I like Troys B&W conversion the best, and adding a sunset in to the color is a sweet addition.

[pickupman92]

adding the sunset in the background and the light hitting her and the dog from the right side... it's pretty obvious it's fake.

[Flo]

adding the sunset in the background and the light hitting her and the dog from the right side... it's pretty obvious it's fake.

He did mention it was a quick edit.;)

[uglytuna]

I just want to thank everyone for the great help and my girl friend and oliver will enjoy this for christmas. Thank you again.

Dale

[SJC from VT]

PixelMagic your edits are all amazing. It's so nice that so many of you are willing to take the time to help out the POTN community. Round of applause to all of you.