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Jannie
21st of December 2009 (Mon), 12:55
I want something small for street shooting especially on rainy nights, at this point guessing the Oly with the Panny 20mm 1.7 , that lens does work on that body doesn't it?

I did some of this kind of shooting last Saturday evening with all the lights reflected off the wet and shooting into restaurants with my iPhone and then processing in black and white with some success and it was really fun. It got me wondering if this could be done with a point and shoot. Otherwise I'd have to use my MKIII and something like a 35mm which would draw entirely too much attention- people get real suspicious when the see the big camera but a little one just isn't taken seriously.

So I was wondering about the combination of bumping up the ISO on the Oly- I do need image stabilization but which lens around a 35-50mm lens equivalent that does have a good autofocus so maybe the Panny lens wouldn't work. But I would like the best image quality I can get. I even read up on that new $2,000 Leica point and shoot- that would have to take some huge justification- but it's a 2.8 and the screen resolution is really low and I really do want the best screen I can get.

Between the G10 and G11, which would be the best for this kind of shooting, for both color and black and white- I am holding hope also that Lightroom 3's ability to give a film grain look actually is pleasing, I really did love the look of the grain from Tri-X film, also when pushed in development.

JeffreyG
21st of December 2009 (Mon), 13:00
My GF-1 is sitting wrapped under the tree, but in the little experimenting I did this camera or the EP-2is the best current option for low light in a small package.

EP-2 advantage is the in-body IS.

GF-1 advantage is the better AF performance and the flash. You can drag the shutter with the GF-1 and get some very credible results.

Both of these cameras are in a league of their own (literally). They are almost as small as a P&S and almost as good as an entry level dSLR. The question for prospective buyers is whether 'almost' is good enough.

tmwag
21st of December 2009 (Mon), 14:26
Not familiar with an iPhone camera but I would think many P&S camera's could equal or exceed it in performance. The GF-1 and EP-2 would easily do what you want if cost is not a problem. Between the G10 and G11...the nod goes to the G11 for better high ISO

woos
22nd of December 2009 (Tue), 18:24
For high iso the G11 is definitely better than the G10.

The GF1 and EP-1/2 are both nice, just a little different. The GF1 has faster auto focus which is nice, but the EP-1 isn't as bad as people say it is. The GF1 also has a flash but it's very weak. In my opinion the GF1 also has a MUCH better menu and control layout, the pen is confusing to me!

However the pen has in body IS which is great for adapted old lenses. My friend at work uses a leica tri-elmar on his, works great.

tmwag
22nd of December 2009 (Tue), 20:34
EP-2 advantage is the in-body IS.

GF-1 advantage is the better AF performance and the flash. You can drag the shutter with the GF-1 and get some very credible results.

Both of these cameras are in a league of their own (literally). They are almost as small as a P&S and almost as good as an entry level dSLR. The question for prospective buyers is whether 'almost' is good enough.

+1, the term "Point & Shoot" or "DSLR" doesn't apply

Jannie
24th of December 2009 (Thu), 20:20
If you get the GF1, can you get it with the 20mm f2? Or is it a 1.7, anyway the one everyone is saying is so good and does that have built in stabilization in that lens?

10megapixel
24th of December 2009 (Thu), 20:34
"Between the G10 and G11, which would be the best for this kind of shooting, for both color and black and white"

G11

gkarris
24th of December 2009 (Thu), 22:04
Leica X1 with its APS-C sensor is the best P&S out there right now...

Reasonably priced - for a Leica... ;)

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/LeicaX1/

The Canon G series pales in comparison to the Olympus and Panasonic with their 4/3 sensors as well...

tmwag
24th of December 2009 (Thu), 22:33
Leica X1 with its APS-C sensor is the best P&S out there right now...

The Canon G series pales in comparison to the Olympus and Panasonic with their 4/3 sensors as well...

Bang for buck...oly and pana pale in comparison to the G11.

gkarris
24th of December 2009 (Thu), 22:55
^^^ noise in higher ISO is noise in higher ISO no matter what you spend.

AFA the G11, I prefer my much cheaper Olympus E-420 dSLR...

tmwag
24th of December 2009 (Thu), 23:03
If you want to spend an additional $500 to get lower noise at 800iso..go for it:)