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ron chappel
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 04:32
Think you've pressed the shutter button too late?
Missed that once in a lifetime shot??
NO YOU HAVEN'T;) :D

At last someone is bringing us a genuinely new idea that has been technically possible for.......well ,decades but that no one has bothered to put into a commercial product.

Casio's Exilim has a PAST movie recording mode that can record up to five seconds *before* the start button was pressed.
Of course the camera has to turned on for at least five secs and pointing in the right direction;) but it sure is better than nothing!
At the moment i think this only works with motion capture but it will be easy to apply to still pics for cameras that don't have shutters (most digicams?)

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060901casio_exs500.asp

-I see this model also has some kind of electronic anti shake.Sounds interesting-i wonder if they manage it without an 'oversized' imaging chip?




This whole 'past recording' idea is particularly interesting to me as i thought of the idea years ago and could never understand why TV/VCR's didn't have this feature.
Imagine seeing something interesting happen on screen that you'd love to show to someone (or keep as a recording,etc) .All you'd have to do is grab the remote and press the 'past record' button and you'd have it!:D ;) :D ;)

buze
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 04:48
I have implemented that in my TV viewing program, you get as many seconds past recording as you like; HOWEVER it takes a massive amount of memory to do so ! (25 frames per seconds in PAL format in YUV422 -uncompressed- is big!)
For a camera the fact of course that you need to have the camera on and in position pretty much makes that useless : if you are READY with the camera ON and IN POSITION, well, you are ready, you have near zero chance of forgetting to press the shutter :D

In the anti shake system, they probably do it the way the camcorders do it : they have a bigger CMOS, and their imaging chip "reframe" the smaller capture rectangle on the bigger CMOS to compensate for movements. Works wonders on my Panasonic GS120EB. You can even do panning, as long as you don't do it jerkily.

CyberDyneSystems
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 12:26
I just ask Mr. Peabody to set the "way back Machine" to 30 seconds and Bob's your Uncle ;)

CoolToolGuy
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 12:34
I just ask Mr. Peabody to set the "way back Machine" to 30 seconds and Bob's your Uncle ;)

I prefer the DeLorean solution myself ;) (1.21 jiggawatts? How could I be so stupid?)


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Have Fun,

Mark Kemp
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 12:51
Now we need a camera that will walk back to where you saw that perfect picture last week (and forgot your camera) and take it for you!

blue_max
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 13:08
I always take my pictures 5 seconds too soon as a precaution. Never seems to help though. Now if I could find a system that takes it at just the right time...

Graham

CyberDyneSystems
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 13:42
I prefer the DeLorean solution myself ;) (1.21 jiggawatts? How could I be so stupid?)


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Have Fun,

Ahh more stylish,. but the Flux Capacitor is harder to feed :)
Still,... a little safer than an Oscilation overthruster... ;)

Longwatcher
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 13:58
I personally like the Tardis solution, more room to store your camera equipment as well as ensuring you always get that perfect shot from multiple angles. 8)

I dread to think how much memory would be needed to keep a 5 sec long recording at of a 1DsMkII sized sensor, which is what I would need. The current buffer now won't last 5 seconds in continuous mode shooting raw. And at 4FPS, I still sometimes miss that perfect shot between frames. (okay I would probably still miss it at 8FPS as well)

Good for P&S though.

CyberDyneSystems
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 14:00
Tardis,. of course.. I was just about to Use "SkyNet"... :shock:

.... of course you realize that would mean I would have to go naked :shock: :shock:
Not to mention the fact that turning it back on would pretty much mean the end of mankind all over again...

CoolToolGuy
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 14:04
Ahh more stylish,. but the Flux Capacitor is harder to feed :)


A very good point, CDS. Plus, the DeLorean screaming onto the scene at 88 MPH has the potential to disturb the shot. . . :lol:

How about the Wonkavator? Does that do time, or only direction? :lol:

Have Fun,

rich_yau
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 17:00
sounds like tivo to me. flash memory will continue to fall drastically in price, and faster cameras will along continuous frame recording at high fps, BUT, that takes away at least 50% of the fun.

deedas
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 20:08
I'm thinking about purchasing a small camera. The tiny elph was what I had in mind, but this sounds interesting. Got some research to do.