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Loaded
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 15:30
ANybody? filter or something.,.....need some help here
Thanks
lost
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 15:35
Unfortunately there is a IR cutout filter already installed in front of the Sensor. There are threads on this topic, try the search function.
Good Luck
BlueTit
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 15:36
I am sure someone here may be of more help. I bought the Hoya R72 filter for IR on the 20d, but so far I have not had much luck, the exposure times required are so long. It appears the 20d is not a great camera for IR, something to do with a filter infront of the sensor. If you search this forum for IR, you will find more info. In the meantime here is a link to a cople of my poor efforts so far.
http://photos17.flickr.com/20347522_a0435b139a_o.jpg
http://photos13.flickr.com/14964092_8adc868eb2_o.jpg
http://photos11.flickr.com/13612741_6044b73d02_o.jpg
Loaded
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 15:52
I am sure someone here may be of more help. I bought the Hoya R72 filter for IR on the 20d, but so far I have not had much luck, the exposure times required are so long. It appears the 20d is not a great camera for IR, something to do with a filter infront of the sensor. If you search this forum for IR, you will find more info. In the meantime here is a link to a cople of my poor efforts so far.
http://photos17.flickr.com/20347522_a0435b139a_o.jpg
http://photos13.flickr.com/14964092_8adc868eb2_o.jpg
http://photos11.flickr.com/13612741_6044b73d02_o.jpg
Heck thats just what i was looking for Blue. What kind of exposure time are you looking at?
BlueTit
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 16:00
Heck thats just what i was looking for Blue. What kind of exposure time are you looking at?
Hi the exif for each is below, but remember I was experimenting and still am, so I am not suggesting these are "correct" settings. In fact someone may hopefully point out they are all wrong and tell us the right ones :lol:
1st: 8sec f9 400iso 16mm on 16-35 L f2.8 lens
2nd 5sec f1.4 100iso 50mm with 50mm 1.4 MkII lens
3rd 15sec f3.2 100iso 32mm wiht 24-70 L f2.8 lens
Hope that helps.
Headcase650
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 19:16
I think I red it in pop photography but you can set it to black and white mode and apply a green filter in camera to get a wanna-be IR picture, the greens will be very bright while the sky should be pretty dark. I think Im telling you right, someone please correct me if Im wrong. Like someone above said you will never get true IR but you can get kinda close.
lancea
20th of June 2005 (Mon), 19:22
Well - my first thought was that you needed a 20Da to get realistic exposure times, but then I found this review http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060101canon20da.asp which has crossed-out the IR capability that everyone was talking about. No doubt there's several threads about this already, but it does conflict with everything else I've seen. Mind you, you'd have to be keen to get a new camera just for IR ...
NJPhotoGuy
21st of June 2005 (Tue), 07:44
I've been thinking about experimenting with IR for my 20D, and was actually eyeing the Hoya R72 filter. Price was the only thing that was temporarily holding me back (just got back from a vacation and have to pay that off before buying anymore goodies...:-() Now it sounds like I should re-think that in light of what you guys here are saying and the example pics posted by BlueTit.
I'll have to try the B&W mixed with the green filter effect. I'll try it in-camera as well as actually attaching a green filter to my lens (I have one from my film days) and see if that can generate a pseudo-IR effect. By any chance, does anyone know if there's any photo software out there (or perhaps a plug-in filter) that gives you the ability to apply an IR filter effect to a B&W digital image? I have PhotoShop (v8) and don't see it listed as an effect to apply from any of the menus.
Tom
thomascanty
21st of June 2005 (Tue), 08:54
By any chance, does anyone know if there's any photo software out there (or perhaps a plug-in filter) that gives you the ability to apply an IR filter effect to a B&W digital image?
Fred Miranda has a Photoshop action (http://www.fredmiranda.com/shopping/DI) that will simulate IR.
garbidz
21st of June 2005 (Tue), 09:29
this link gives you some info as to what and why
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/eos20da.html
As you can see, there are guys ready to strip the IR filter for you and charge 600 dollars
what you can do with the camera after the procedure remains unclear!
The 20D a(stronomy) comes without the IR filter and with a semi'transparent mirror that enables you to actually see your take on the LCD screen...that sounds quite fascinating though the price tag of 2400 dollars and the three-month wait do not. En plus, you'd have to have an address in Japan where it could be mailed.
Are you actually photographing IR phenomena or just fascinated with the aesthetics?
In the latter case, just do ChannelMix monochromes out of your regular shots, add noise and diffuse glow...and tell everybody that they are real IR...
have fun
m
kwang0429
21st of June 2005 (Tue), 12:17
1. place your 20D on the desk having the lens cap down and facing you.
2. turn the power on 20D
3. find a yoyo or pocket watch
4. place the yoyo/pocket watch in front of the lens and start swinging left and right.
5. telling your 20d that it's able to handle IR just fine.
6. test the result.
crusher420
21st of June 2005 (Tue), 13:06
Fred Miranda has a Photoshop action (http://www.fredmiranda.com/shopping/DI) that will simulate IR.
You could do this without paying the money right in Photoshop as well. Under the adjustments/channel mixer...just take the photo to monochrome...adjust it so that it looks like that example from the link you posted. If you want to add back colors and such you just redo that and play with the coloring. I am not sure that is what true infrared looks like...but you can easily copy that action.
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