High School Basketball

[pete crawford]

Playing with a flash in poor light.

C&C Please. All help and suggestions appreciated.

Thanks

[Mark II]

Little bit over exposed

I'm surprised somebody didnt tell you to stop with the flash.

A boost in ISO couldnt give you what you needed?

[Hawk1959]

I agree with Mark.... What were your settings? Lens, Etc...

I do all mine with out a flash and mostly use a FF 55mm or 85mm Lense...

[pete crawford]

I agree, probably should have gone to 6400 iso.

I used 1600 iso, 1/320th at 3.5

70-200 2.8 lens

terrible lighting, but 6400 is attainable.

Thank you

[Mark II]

I agree, probably should have gone to 6400 iso.

I used 1600 iso, 1/320th at 3.5

70-200 2.8 lens

terrible lighting, but 6400 is attainable.

Thank you

That f2.8 should do the job.
I used a 7D w/24-105 L on these. Here are some settings (without flash) you might try ...
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=805017

[pete crawford]

Thanks Mark!

[wtr3554]

cant believe u got away with the flash

[pete crawford]

First time I used one. I think I like the pictures better without the flash.

I've seen photogs use a flash in football, and basketball. Guess I didn't think much about it.

[northpointphoto]

Good action but the white looks a little blown out. Rest of the image has pretty good exposure.

Sorry if I missed this but was this on camera or off camera strobe? Either way I've found if you have enough power bouncing the strobe off the ceiling or wall makes for much better light balance even though you have to crank up the ISO a little more to than direct flash. Doing that you wont have as harsh of shadows on the players or the walls behind the players.

[pete crawford]

It was on camera. Thanks!

[northpointphoto]

Have you tried taking the flash off camera and bouncing it?

[namasste]

Definitely a little overexposed but its not likely that you'll have many problems shooting flash at the prep level for hoops unless you're acting like a fool with it. Given the settings, the best he could have hoped for was f2.8 1/500 @ 3200 but the image wouldn't have the pop that this could. The problem (as I see it) is the ISO at 1600. Tune that down to around 800 and see if you don't get what you are looking for. I'll bet it solves the problem. ISO and aperture are exposing the subject when using the flash so that's where I'd start. I'd also put my shutter at 1/250 to let just a little more background ambient in to balance things. Then again, that's all jsut how I'd handle it.

[pete crawford]

Hey Russell. I haven't tried bouncing the flash. Thanks!

Thanks Scott. With the lighting in this gym I have to go to 6400 on the iso. I was just trying something different.

I stayed off to a corner of the court. The players didn't look at me while they were playing, so the flash didn't bother them.

Think I'll just go to the higher iso next time any how.

[namasste]

Hey Russell. I haven't tried bouncing the flash. Thanks!

Thanks Scott. With the lighting in this gym I have to go to 6400 on the iso. I was just trying something different.

I stayed off to a corner of the court. The players didn't look at me while they were playing, so the flash didn't bother them.

Think I'll just go to the higher iso next time any how.Pete, when you are trying to balance flash and ambient to get a somewhat natural look to the lighting, you'd probably need to bleed in some background ambient (thus, lower your shutter a fuzz) then let the flash expose the subjects (thus, lower your ISO so you aren't blowing highlights like this). The last thing you want with flash in this situation is to raise the ISO. Maybe I wasn't clear in my first reply so hopefully this helps. Without being in that gym (but given your settings mentioned) I'd say settings at 1/250 f2.8-4 and ISO 800 should be right on the money.

[pete crawford]

These were last night. Both shot at 6400 iso with no flash.

This is in the same gym. Again, terrible lighting. PP has been done of course!

So much post work to be done when no flash is used, but I think I like the results just as well.

Maybe a little over exposed.

C&C welcomed. Thanks