Technical question

[Martilack]

I just got a Rebel Xsi-
the continuous shooting for the first few days worked great.
Now it takes two at the 3.5fps speed, nice and quick)
then blinks busy in the vfinder, and then continues to shoot just at
a considerably slower rate.
The first few times I used the camera you could hold down the shutter button and
it would keep on shooting super fast over and over and over...
I havent changed a thing on it? Its basically brand new-
What has happened? Im goin BONKERS...
thanks! :cry:

[Tallking]

It may be your memory card. Save the images you have on it, and do a LOW LEVEL format on the card, not just a clearing of the saved images. Several years ago, I got into the habit of doing a LL format every time I clear the card, and I've never had ANY card problems again. No corrupted images, no long store times, none of it. Try that and see if it helps.

[philwillmedia]

Are you sure it's still set on high speed continuous??

[D Thompson]

Slower shutter speed perhaps?

[Gatorboy]

Did you by chance change from shooting JPG to RAW, or RAW+JPG?

[PhotosGuy]

Did you by chance change from shooting JPG to RAW, or RAW+JPG? Or small jpg to HQ?

[jra]

Are you using flash?

[Casperd360]

My xsi wont shoot crazy fast with the flash on. So if your flash is on that could be it.

[Radtech1]

My guess will be a full buffer. What kind of card are you using? (speed? microdrive?) The buffer can clear only as fast as a card can be written to. A slow write speed on your card will cause the buffer to fill, and then - just as you describe - it will blink busy and your frame rate will slow down dramatically.

Rad

[John the Geek]

My xsi wont shoot crazy fast with the flash on. So if your flash is on that could be it.

Correct. The flash can't recharge fast enough. Best case is get a 580EX and CP-E4 battery pack for quicker recharge, but even then it won't be as fast as no flash in bright daylight.

[bjyoder]

My guess will be a full buffer. What kind of card are you using? (speed? microdrive?) The buffer can clear only as fast as a card can be written to. A slow write speed on your card will cause the buffer to fill, and then - just as you describe - it will blink busy and your frame rate will slow down dramatically.

Rad

This was my thought as well. This is also the reason that everyone is asking about your image quality settings. If you bought a slow-speed card and started using it with .jpeg capture and moved to something like RAW or RAW + Jpeg, the added file size would cause the buffer to fill more rapidly. If your card is not a high-speed card, it will not be able to accept the information from the buffer quickly enough to let you keep shooting at a high speed.

[Martilack]

thanks for all the responses.
I am just digesting them all-
One additional thing is that when I put the camera into "sports" mode in the basic zone
it can shoot the full 3.5fps repeatedly. In the creative zones (on continuous), like I said before, it will
shoot the first two fast then blink busy and slow down to about half the speed ?

[FuzzFace]

On the xsi(I can't confirm this on other models as i only have the xsi) any of the auto modes only record in jpeg where as the manual/semi-manual modes allow you to change to RAW or RAW+jpeg

[luigis]

Check if you have the high ISO noise reduction enabled. It may be you put the camera in Aut-ISO and if the noise reduction is enabled that will slow down the burst rate in a big way.

[DDCSD]

Are you using flash?

My xsi wont shoot crazy fast with the flash on. So if your flash is on that could be it.

Correct. The flash can't recharge fast enough. Best case is get a 580EX and CP-E4 battery pack for quicker recharge, but even then it won't be as fast as no flash in bright daylight.


Ding ding ding!

[PhotosGuy]

Ding ding ding! Reminds me of the old show "Twenty Questions" Isn't it nice when we have to play, "Guess what the OP didn't think to tell us"? :D

[Martilack]

Reminds me of the old show "Twenty Questions" Isn't it nice when we have to play, "Guess what the OP didn't think to tell us"? :D

what do you mean by this ?

[Radtech1]

what do you mean by this ?

It is his way of saying that the problems you are experiencing are consistent with the use of the internal flash unit when shooting. The status of your flash use (or your not flash use) when you experience the slowdown is something that should have been mentioned in your original post. No harm intended - more information is always better in getting the best help.

Rad

[Martilack]

I am still wrestling with this issue with my XSi I got for XMAS

Basically the thing will only shoot continuous seamlessly when on "sports" mode.

In the semi manual modes it will shoot continuous
but will do the first two very fast, short pause, two more quick, pause, and so on.
Switching around from L to RAW etc.
varied the speed at which it took pictures, but regardless it wont
crank like it will on "sports" auto mode whatever
what are the default settings in the auto modes
that I can match in manual ?
what other factors are at play here?
also, this guy Frank referred to me as on OP, some sort of "newbie" term
I think, what does that stand for, and what is Franks major malfunction.
thanks guys

[Veemac]

...also, this guy Frank referred to me as on OP, some sort of "newbie" term
I think, what does that stand for, and what is Franks major malfunction....
"OP" stands for "Original Poster" - that's the person who originally posted the question...in this case, that would be you.

Your replies to him in that thread were entirely out of line and unnecessarily insulting, considering that he was trying to help you. That was the only major malfunction I saw.

[DDCSD]

Is the flash firing when you are not in "sports mode"?

[Jon]

You might consider actually responding to the specific suggestions that were made. To recap:
Were you trying to shoot in RAW while in the Creative zone?
What AF mode were you in?
Were you using Flash?
Have you reformatted your memory card, or just deleted the photos you don't consider "keepers"?
What shutter speed are you using?

If you don't answer our questions, which we ask specifically to help in trouble-shooting your problem we can't help you. And, like Frank said, we find ourselves playing "20 Questions".

[Imeddy]

How about this. Take a picture when in your sports mode, view the info, shutter speed, aperture, iso, then switch to manual mode and copy the exact same settings. In the sports mode your flash should fire and the flash should fire in manual mode unless you pop it up (i have a 20d that i have a button to pop the flash up not sure if your camera is the same).

Your camera should then be set up and act the same way as when in auto sports mode. I think the only difference then is the image quality. If shooting raw and jpg your images will be much larger therefore filling up your buffer causing your camera to work slower.

[Martilack]

You might consider actually responding to the specific suggestions that were made. To recap:
Were you trying to shoot in RAW while in the Creative zone?
What AF mode were you in?
Were you using Flash?
Have you reformatted your memory card, or just deleted the photos you don't consider "keepers"?
What shutter speed are you using?

If you don't answer our questions, which we ask specifically to help in trouble-shooting your problem we can't help you. And, like Frank said, we find ourselves playing "20 Questions".

But why are you asking if I was trying to shoot in RAW on the creative zone, for example, when I explicitly stated in my question that I had tried switching around from RAW to L etc. and then stated the affect on the continuous shooting that
that had?? I need to answer specific questions for sure but you gotta read the question more closely to prevent asking unnecessary questions. Right?

[Martilack]

I thought it was obvious that I wasnt using flash that I could safely omit it!?
Anyways.

[Martilack]

[QUOTE=Veemac;9461639]"OP" stands for "Original Poster" - that's the person who originally posted the question...in this case, that would be you.

Your replies to him in that thread were entirely out of line and unnecessarily insulting, considering that he was trying to help you. That was the only major malfunction I saw.[/QUOTE

It was indeed out of line. I should not have called Frank a loser.
I dont even know him. Im sure he a (total) winner.
I overreacted but I just didnt appreciate the his comment esp. compared to everyone
else who was pleasant and helpful. Why make someone feel like a dummy?
ANYWAYS.
SOOORRRYYYY and hopefully Frank will get through this difficult time.

[DDCSD]

There are only two reasons that you would get the "busy" indicator in the viewfinder. One is if you are using the on-board flash and the flash needs to recharge. The other is if you are running into the camera's buffer and the camera needs to clear the built-in file buffer onto the card.

[Martilack]

My guess will be a full buffer. What kind of card are you using? (speed? microdrive?) The buffer can clear only as fast as a card can be written to. A slow write speed on your card will cause the buffer to fill, and then - just as you describe - it will blink busy and your frame rate will slow down dramatically.

Rad


Would the buffer clear faster for some reason in "sports mode" ??
As I said, it works fine in sports mode. It shoots really fast over and over.
In semi -manual or manual modes it wont do that-
(obv. Im not using flash in either case)
And yes Im on continuous shooting mode, and have tried applying all the settings
that are displayed in sports mode to all of the manual modes.
All of this to no avail.

[Martilack]

Check if you have the high ISO noise reduction enabled. It may be you put the camera in Aut-ISO and if the noise reduction is enabled that will slow down the burst rate in a big way.

I do I enable/disable ISO noise reduction?

I have it on Auto ISO

[DreDaze]

what are your settings in "sports mode"...

put the camera into M mode...make the settings the exact same as "sports mode" does it work then?

maybe your shutter speeds aren't fast enough in the other modes...i'd assume sports mode would usually use a high shutter, although that's just a guess...


also the more information you give on what you are doing exactly with your camera the better...

[Radtech1]

Would the buffer clear faster for some reason in "sports mode" ??
As I said, it works fine in sports mode. It shoots really fast over and over.
In semi -manual or manual modes it wont do that-
(obv. Im not using flash in either case)
And yes Im on continuous shooting mode, and have tried applying all the settings
that are displayed in sports mode to all of the manual modes.
All of this to no avail.

Are you saving in RAW, RAW+JPG, or JPG only?

What kind of card are you using? What is it's speed rating?

My camera does not have "Sport" mode, so this is just a guess - it is possible that the manual modes allow you save the RAW files which is much slower than JPG only, especially on a slow card. Sport mode might override the RAW save, and save only the JPG. IF that it true (again, no sport mode for me so I can't check it out), then it would be consistent with your experience.

Try one of the other "handholding" modes, whatever they are - I think like landscape, or portrait - and see if you get the same results as the sports mode.

Also check to see if the sports mode (and the other "handholding" modes) are saving the RAW files, or JPG only. And while you are at it, check to see if you are saving RAW in the modes you are having trouble.

If that isn't it, then I believe your camera might be faulty.

Rad

Oh, BTW, I saw your response to Veemac about PhotosGuy. :rolleyes: [shakes head] Even if you are a pouty 14 year old girl, stop acting like one.


EDIT: Apologies to all pouty 14 year old girls.

[Martilack]

"OP" stands for "Original Poster" - that's the person who originally posted the question...in this case, that would be you.

Your replies to him in that thread were entirely out of line and unnecessarily insulting, considering that he was trying to help you. That was the only major malfunction I saw.


But really, just how was he trying to help me with that post?
How do you think "look at what the OP didnt think to mention"
could be helpful information to me in trying to solve my problem?
It wasnt like it followed any ACTUAL helpful advice, it was his whole post ?
I dont understand what you mean when you say "he was just trying to help you"
(he was not trying to help me)
Put that in your pipe/commence smoking.

[DreDaze]

But really, just how was he trying to help me with that post?
How do you think "look at what the OP didnt think to mention"
could be helpful information to me in trying to solve my problem?
It wasnt like it followed any ACTUAL helpful advice, it was his whole post ?
I dont understand what you mean when you say "he was just trying to help you"
(he was not trying to help me)
Put that in your pipe/commence smoking.


he was quoting all the other responders that had suggested it was because you used the flash...honestly first reading your post that's what my first thought was...

his comment about what you didn't mention is based on the fact that you didn't really help by telling everyone you weren't using the flash...you assumed people would know(how i have no idea)

either way...get over it...and let's get back to trying to figure out your camera problems:)

[DDCSD]

Along with your owner's manual, I highly recommend reading this book:

http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671723650/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1264381266&sr=8-1-spell

[TheBurningCrown]

Martilack,

Here is the tip to end all tips (and I'm not kidding):
Take your memory card out of the camera, try it then, and report to us whether or not it works properly.

If it does, we have the answer (the buffer), if it doesn't, it should be one of the remaining 4 things:
1.) Flash
2.) High ISO Noise Reduction
3.) Slower SS
4.) Broken Camera

[Jon]

But why are you asking if I was trying to shoot in RAW on the creative zone, for example, when I explicitly stated in my question that I had tried switching around from RAW to L etc. and then stated the affect on the continuous shooting that
that had?? I need to answer specific questions for sure but you gotta read the question more closely to prevent asking unnecessary questions. Right?

I thought it was obvious that I wasnt using flash that I could safely omit it!?
Anyways.You are not expressing yourself at all clearly. Don't assume that you can leave anything out. If a question is asked, answer it explicitly, and don't castigate us because we can't read your mind. We are assuming nothing except what you say, and if you can't say it clearly, we'll ask it again until you can say clearly and concisely exactly what you did and what your settings were in each situation. Remember - you are the only person who was there when this was happening. All we can go on is your (garbled) reports.

[Imeddy]

I was messing around with my 20d and threw it in sports mode and fired away. It had no problem shooting continuously. Checked the settings and the sports mode shutter speed with 1/200 @ f2.8 iso 400. Checked image quality and it was set to L super fine.

Now, when I switched to manual mode I set the camera up with the same settings, 1/200 @ f2.8 iso 400 Switched from one shot to continuous and after a few shots it did the same thing you're describing. I then checked the quality and it went from L super fine to L super fine + Raw.

Double check that when you're in manual mode or TV mode or AV mode that your quality is set to just L not RAW + L.

After I changed it to just L quality the camera was set up and acted exactly like it was in sports mode.

[Martilack]

Along with your owner's manual, I highly recommend reading this book:

http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671723650/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1264381266&sr=8-1-spell

read it?? I @#$ing wrote it!
Just kidding, I did not write it.

[Martilack]

Martilack,

Here is the tip to end all tips (and I'm not kidding):
Take your memory card out of the camera, try it then, and report to us whether or not it works properly.

If it does, we have the answer (the buffer), if it doesn't, it should be one of the remaining 4 things:
1.) Flash
2.) High ISO Noise Reduction
3.) Slower SS
4.) Broken Camera

cool, will do (didnt really think you were kidding) (?)
thanks

[TheBurningCrown]

cool, will do (didnt really think you were kidding) (?)
thanks
Also, I should add that in your settings you need to have "Shoot without card" turned ON.

[DDCSD]

Here's a PDF version of the Xsi manual. Put "burst" in the search box and you can see everything that the manual has to say about shooting in burst and what conditions will cause it to slow down.

http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/0300000933/EOSRXSi-EOS450D_EN.pdf

[Martilack]

I said something along the lines of "I tried switching from RAW to L and this did not help"
Thats seems at least sufficiently clear to
make asking if I had tried changing from RAW or whatever unnecessary!? No?????
Come on Jon, just gimme that one dude...

[Martilack]

I was messing around with my 20d and threw it in sports mode and fired away. It had no problem shooting continuously. Checked the settings and the sports mode shutter speed with 1/200 @ f2.8 iso 400. Checked image quality and it was set to L super fine.

Now, when I switched to manual mode I set the camera up with the same settings, 1/200 @ f2.8 iso 400 Switched from one shot to continuous and after a few shots it did the same thing you're describing. I then checked the quality and it went from L super fine to L super fine + Raw.

Double check that when you're in manual mode or TV mode or AV mode that your quality is set to just L not RAW + L.

After I changed it to just L quality the camera was set up and acted exactly like it was in sports mode.

DEF tried that, thanks
I think I will return it

[DreDaze]

so does it shoot at the higher fps without a card?

what was your shutter speed set at?

[Martilack]

he was quoting all the other responders that had suggested it was because you used the flash...honestly first reading your post that's what my first thought was...

his comment about what you didn't mention is based on the fact that you didn't really help by telling everyone you weren't using the flash...you assumed people would know(how i have no idea)

either way...get over it...and let's get back to trying to figure out your camera problems:)

I know he was quoting all the other responders??!!!!! (???)
I also know the point that he was making made sense and all and
blah blah blah and i GET THAT, I GET WHAT HE WAS SAYING
I am just saying HE WASNT TRYING TO HELP ME!!!!!! emphasis on the word "help"
Don't you understand? Believe me, I dont wanna be still talking about it
I just cant have you miss the point so bad and think that I am the one missing
the point! Its mind boggling!

[Imeddy]

btw, DreDaze, I did take the card out when I did my little test in manual mode and when shooting in raw + L the camera would slow down and say busy after about 5-6 shots. Changed to just L jpg and I didn't have a problem. I took my finger off the shutter after about 15 shots but the busy didn't show up.

I'm also using a 20d for this little test and not an Xsi so it might be a little different

[Jon]

I said something along the lines of "I tried switching from RAW to L and this did not help"
Thats seems at least sufficiently clear to
make asking if I had tried changing from RAW or whatever unnecessary!? No?????
Come on Jon, just gimme that one dude...Nope. You said (mixed in with a lot of other verbage) In the semi manual modes it will shoot continuous
but will do the first two very fast, short pause, two more quick, pause, and so on.
Switching around from L to RAW etc.
varied the speed at which it took pictures, but regardless it wont
crank like it will on "sports" auto mode whatever
what are the default settings in the auto modes
that I can match in manual ?
what other factors are at play here?
also, this guy Frank referred to me as on OP, some sort of "newbie" term
I think, what does that stand for, and what is Franks major malfunction.
thanks guysSince several people subsequently asked if you were shooting RAW or JPEG, it's clear that you weren't clear. Sit down, organize your thoughts, stop being snide to people who are trying to help you and present a clear, step-by-step description of exactly what you did, what you changed, and what the (specific, not broad, sweeping generalizations) results were. Then maybe we can help you. But yelling at us because you don't make yourself clear won't accomplish anything but inspiring us to put you on "Ignore".

[DreDaze]

btw, DreDaze, I did take the card out when I did my little test in manual mode and when shooting in raw + L the camera would slow down and say busy after about 5-6 shots. Changed to just L jpg and I didn't have a problem. I took my finger off the shutter after about 15 shots but the busy didn't show up.

I'm also using a 20d for this little test and not an Xsi so it might be a little different

eh...edit:...i was confused on who i was replying to here...:)....listen to what imeddy has been saying...he's on the right path i think...

you seem to be more concerned with all this other b.s....than with what is going on with your camera

[Martilack]

Nope. You said (mixed in with a lot of other verbage) Since several people subsequently asked if you were shooting RAW or JPEG, it's clear that you weren't clear. Sit down, organize your thoughts, stop being snide to people who are trying to help you and present a clear, step-by-step description of exactly what you did, what you changed, and what the (specific, not broad, sweeping generalizations) results were. Then maybe we can help you. But yelling at us because you don't make yourself clear won't accomplish anything but inspiring us to put you on "Ignore".

Yeah so I said that switching those settings around did not help.
I figured offering that info would be helpful.
How was that not clear?

Read my original post and my first little follow up.
It was specific!
If you guys ignore me I just dont know if Ill be able to handle that btw
so lets not entertain that as a possibility please.

[Martilack]

that "additional verbage" remark was a total kick in the front seat by the way.

[Jon]

Yeah so I said that switching those settings around did not help.
I figured offering that info would be helpful.
How was that not clear?

Read my original post and my first little follow up.
It was specific!
If you guys ignore me I just dont know if Ill be able to handle that btw
so lets not entertain that as a possibility please.
You failed totally to communicate whether that was the only thing you changed at that time. If you change a half dozen things at random, you do absolutely zero to help narrow things down. And insulting the members here doesn't encourage them to try to help you at all.

Try a step-by-step detailing exactly what your settings were every step of the way. Include how you prepared the card between tests, what mode you were using for AF, exposure, drive, shutter speed and aperture used, ISO you set, any custom functions you may have used. All those can make a difference. But don't go griping because we can't understand your random ramblings. That's [i]your[/i ] fault.

[Imeddy]

I think it's a shooting in RAW problem. This sorta happened to me a long time ago. When shooting in the AV, TV, or M mode, I'm not sure about the green square mode or P mode that you can shoot Raw. If you check your menu in AV, TV, or M mode you'll have to option of shooting both but if you checked your settings in just the sports mode, you won't have the option of shooting RAW. You'll just be able to shoot in jpg.

There really is no default mode in the auto modes. The camera sets all that up automatically. If you take a shot in auto sports mode and want to recreate that in the custom mode you'll more than likely have to use M mode. Take a shot in Auto Sports mode, write down the settings, shutter speed, aperture (f stop), and iso.

Like I said in a previous post, I replicated the problem you were describing and it was fixed by changing the image quality.

So. try this just to clear up some details.

1. Switch the camera to your auto sports mode and check the image quality.
2. Switch the camera to M mode and check the image quality.

Are they the same?

[Martilack]

You failed totally to communicate whether that was the only thing you changed at that time. If you change a half dozen things at random, you do absolutely zero to help narrow things down. And insulting the members here doesn't encourage them to try to help you at all.

Try a step-by-step detailing exactly what your settings were every step of the way. Include how you prepared the card between tests, what mode you were using for AF, exposure, drive, shutter speed and aperture used, ISO you set, any custom functions you may have used. All those can make a difference. But don't go griping because we can't understand your random ramblings. That's [i]your[/i ] fault.

I would have mentioned if I had changed other things.

[Radtech1]

I would have mentioned if I had changed other things.


Did you check the card to see if "Sports" was saving the RAW files, or just the JPG?

[DreDaze]

I think it's a shooting in RAW problem. This sorta happened to me a long time ago. When shooting in the AV, TV, or M mode, I'm not sure about the green square mode or P mode that you can shoot Raw. If you check your menu in AV, TV, or M mode you'll have to option of shooting both but if you checked your settings in just the sports mode, you won't have the option of shooting RAW. You'll just be able to shoot in jpg.

There really is no default mode in the auto modes. The camera sets all that up automatically. If you take a shot in auto sports mode and want to recreate that in the custom mode you'll more than likely have to use M mode. Take a shot in Auto Sports mode, write down the settings, shutter speed, aperture (f stop), and iso.

Like I said in a previous post, I replicated the problem you were describing and it was fixed by changing the image quality.

So. try this just to clear up some details.

1. Switch the camera to your auto sports mode and check the image quality.
2. Switch the camera to M mode and check the image quality.

Are they the same?

seems like that, as the xsi also can only shoot 6 shots in RAW in burst...and 4 in RAW + L...

with my 40D you can't shoot RAW + L in sports mode...it'll automatically make it L

it'd help if the o.p. would respond to your suggestions as opposed to arguing with jon over nothing...

[DDCSD]

Did you check the card to see if "Sports" was saving the RAW files, or just the JPG?


Sports mode only gives you .jpg's.

The problem the OP is having is that he's got High ISO noise reduction on and is shooting bursts with RAW.

As I said, there are only 2 reasons you will get the "busy" light. One is flash recycling, the other is running out of buffer.

[Jon]

I would have mentioned if I had changed other things.Not something we can count on based on your performance to date. There've been lots of camera settings and outside actions that have been suggested, most of which you haven't addressed. How about you tell us exactly how you set the camera when you got 2 frames before it slowed down. Everything. In detail.

[Martilack]

Not something we can count on based on your performance to date. There've been lots of camera settings and outside actions that have been suggested, most of which you haven't addressed. How about you tell us exactly how you set the camera when you got 2 frames before it slowed down. Everything. In detail.

but at the time of that post
there wasnt any reason to think Id omit important info!
I still dont think there is reason to think it.

[Radtech1]

Sports mode only gives you .jpg's.

The problem the OP is having is that he's got High ISO noise reduction on and is shooting bursts with RAW.

Does he know that?

[Martilack]

Just took nice and fast shots in the sports mode
sp 1/80 f5.6
and the quality was the capital S with the quarter of a circle next to it (not the staircase one, the smooth one) I hope this isnt totally unclear and garbled as jon said about my earlier posts.
Anyways
I applied these settings to M and continuous did not work in the same manner.
It took the first two really quick, pause, busy signal, slowed down to about half speed and continued on at that rate.
I took out the card after doing this and adjusted it to shoot w/o card and that made no difference.
Someone had thrown out that idea)

[Martilack]

So WHAT IS THE DEAL little dudes.

[Martilack]

when I put it on RAW
it changes to this pattern (still not how it should be)
first to really quick
pause
second two really quick
pause
third two really quick

[Martilack]

Does he know that?

How come this person think I have just been shooting in RAW this whole time??
I take it that was a joke!

[DreDaze]

Just took nice and fast shots in the sports mode
sp 1/80 f5.6
and the quality was the capital S with the quarter of a circle next to it (not the staircase one, the smooth one) I hope this isnt totally unclear and garbled as jon said about my earlier posts.
Anyways
I applied these settings to M and continuous did not work in the same manner.
It took the first two really quick, pause, busy signal, slowed down to about half speed and continued on at that rate.
I took out the card after doing this and adjusted it to shoot w/o card and that made no difference.
Someone had thrown out that idea)


after you switched it to M was it still in the capital S image mode?...if it's like that in sports mode does not guarantee that it will be like that in M mode...M mode could've been RAW...

what type of card are you using?

[Imeddy]

Just took nice and fast shots in the sports mode
sp 1/80 f5.6
and the quality was the capital S with the quarter of a circle next to it (not the staircase one, the smooth one) I hope this isnt totally unclear and garbled as jon said about my earlier posts.
Anyways
I applied these settings to M and continuous did not work in the same manner.
It took the first two really quick, pause, busy signal, slowed down to about half speed and continued on at that rate.
I took out the card after doing this and adjusted it to shoot w/o card and that made no difference.
Someone had thrown out that idea)
But, did you make sure the quality was the capital S with the quarter of a circle when in M mode? The Manual settings are going to be what you want them to be, in this case 1/80 f5.6. Set that up then double check triple check that you only have the S with the quarter of a circle

[Martilack]

When I switched to to M
I PUT it in the capital image mode. All the settings were the same.
The card is a SanDisk EXTREME 4GB

[-AP-]

If I read it correctly, I 3rd or fourth this..
check if you have the high ISO noise reduction enabled

Reset all custom functions to confirm..

[SOK]

Sports Mode = AI Servo = Slowed burst rate if camera 'thinks' there's movement in the scene.

Put your camera in M mode. Set your lens to MF. Hold the shutter button down and see if the problem persists. (Edit - in M, ensure drive mode is set to continuous)

[Martilack]

Martilack,

Here is the tip to end all tips (and I'm not kidding):
Take your memory card out of the camera, try it then, and report to us whether or not it works properly.

If it does, we have the answer (the buffer), if it doesn't, it should be one of the remaining 4 things:
1.) Flash
2.) High ISO Noise Reduction
3.) Slower SS
4.) Broken Camera

I took out card. Prob remains.
I havent used flash at all.
ISO is on auto
Put it on M and
I adjusted the shutter speed to the same as it was on the sports mode
where it was going fast at a steady consistent clip.
The AF in sports was AI servo so I matched that too, and the ap.
No luck.
busy sign comes up after two pics, rate decreases a lot.
Brootal.

[Martilack]

Sports Mode = AI Servo = Slowed burst rate if camera 'thinks' there's movement in the scene.

Put your camera in M mode. Set your lens to MF. Hold the shutter button down and see if the problem persists. (Edit - in M, ensure drive mode is set to continuous)

tried that, no dice.

[Martilack]

If I read it correctly, I 3rd or fourth this..


Reset all custom functions to confirm..

The reason I havent tried that yet and told you is that I was waiting to hear
how to do it, I asked earlier
thanks

[DreDaze]

The reason I havent tried that yet and told you is that I was waiting to hear
how to do it, I asked earlier
thanks

do you have your manual?...it's on the bottom of page 152...

if you don't have it look here:
http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/0300000933/EOSRXSi-EOS450D_EN.pdf

[Martilack]

If I read it correctly, I 3rd or fourth this..


Reset all custom functions to confirm..

ALAS!!!!
My problem has been solved.
I had "High ISO speed noise reduction" enabled.
I just turned it off and its solved.
Its been a HELL of a ride.
Thank you all.

[-AP-]

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http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/0300000933/EOSRXSi-EOS450D_EN.pdf

I will post a screen print momentarily as well..

[Martilack]

My xsi wont shoot crazy fast with the flash on. So if your flash is on that could be it.

grip mean, bat grip?

[Martilack]

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http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/0300000933/EOSRXSi-EOS450D_EN.pdf

I will post a screen print momentarily as well..

you rock.
its was high ISO noise reduction was enabled

[-AP-]

ALAS!!!!
My problem has been solved.
I had "High ISO speed noise reduction" enabled.
I just turned it off and its solved.
Its been a HELL of a ride.
Thank you all.

There you go. I actually had the same problem a few months ago and this forum came to the rescue.. Hopefully this thread will help others in the future as well.

[Martilack]

Nope. You said (mixed in with a lot of other verbage) Since several people subsequently asked if you were shooting RAW or JPEG, it's clear that you weren't clear. Sit down, organize your thoughts, stop being snide to people who are trying to help you and present a clear, step-by-step description of exactly what you did, what you changed, and what the (specific, not broad, sweeping generalizations) results were. Then maybe we can help you. But yelling at us because you don't make yourself clear won't accomplish anything but inspiring us to put you on "Ignore".

The person who knew what the problem was
could tell by my posts alone. When I mentioned that I had fiddled around with
the different image qualities and this didnt fix the prob,
he did not ask any further questions about that.
Thanks for helping Jon but you were not right saying that my posts were
all jumbled and confusing. lacking essential info and overly broad. In fact, they contained
all the info needed to solve what was a simple issue. And I was never "yelling"
at anyone, as you said I was.

[Martilack]

You are not expressing yourself at all clearly. Don't assume that you can leave anything out. If a question is asked, answer it explicitly, and don't castigate us because we can't read your mind. We are assuming nothing except what you say, and if you can't say it clearly, we'll ask it again until you can say clearly and concisely exactly what you did and what your settings were in each situation. Remember - you are the only person who was there when this was happening. All we can go on is your (garbled) reports.

Saying
that I am not expressing myself "at all clearly" is so ridiculously overblown.

[Martilack]

You failed totally to communicate whether that was the only thing you changed at that time. If you change a half dozen things at random, you do absolutely zero to help narrow things down. And insulting the members here doesn't encourage them to try to help you at all.

Try a step-by-step detailing exactly what your settings were every step of the way. Include how you prepared the card between tests, what mode you were using for AF, exposure, drive, shutter speed and aperture used, ISO you set, any custom functions you may have used. All those can make a difference. But don't go griping because we can't understand your random ramblings. That's [i]your[/i ] fault.

there were no random ramblings. I would of course not change a bunch of settings and not mention it. When I mentioned that I had changed the image quality settings to no avail
it was obvious that had I changed something
ELSE I ALSO would have included that change in the post too. It wasnt my "failing to mention I hadnt changed anything else." It was the fact that you assumed I may have
when you didnt have good reason to make that assumption.

[DreDaze]

your posts were confusing, rambling, and with not much information in them at all...those that were trying to help were asking you questions, which you weren't answering...this all could've been settled in probably 5 posts, and under an hour...and not 80posts in a week

[TheBurningCrown]

your posts were confusing, rambling, and with not much information in them at all...those that were trying to help were asking you questions, which you weren't answering...this all could've been settled in probably 5 posts, and under an hour...and not 80posts in a weekThis.

I posted several possible roots of the problem (the answer turned out to be #3) and instead of trying to discuss them you stated that you had "Auto-ISO" on.

The odd thing is that people on this forum are more interested in fixing your camera than you are...

[Martilack]

Dredaze could you quote one of my posts that you consider to be "rambling"

[DreDaze]

Dredaze could you quote one of my posts that you consider to be "rambling"

alright, maybe not rambling, but confusing for sure...anyways does it really matter now?...your camera is fixed

i'm just suggesting next time when others are trying to help, and ask you questions/offer suggestions it's best to actually respond to them