What would you pay? A70 for sale.

[Spirit]

I'm selling my A70, but I haven't a clue what the resale value is. It's 2 years old.

Purchased in May '03, I bought the camera ($499), teleconverter with adapter ($188 ), and a 256 compactflash card (I THINK $120... MUCH cheaper now).

Total cost including tax for the camera and teleconverter was $786. Add another $130 or so and the TOTAL cost was approx $915... give or take. I have all the original recipets, minus the memory.

To buy all 3 (camera, lens, 256 memory) NOW (new), would cost approx $550-600.
Camera $250-299
Lens and adapter (same as 2 years ago) $188
Memory $50? Who cares.

Soooooo... ? Help! What would you pay?

2 years ago $915
Today $550-600

Prices in Canadian funds, based on local store prices. (You may commence breathing) ;)

[stoneylonesome]

You might want to check in on Ebay and see what the going rate is there, maybe give you some Idea what people are willing to pay. The sad thing is Digital cameras just don't hold there value. :cry: :cry: :cry:

Just saw this on Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/offering/list/-/B00008OE5G/all/qid=1119555143/ref=sr_pb_a/002-7086432-1285630

Looks like they were going for $170 to $200 USA just the camera.

[Spirit]

The camera has little value now ($299 new -at most- Canadian funds), but I'm selling it with a teleconverter and 256 memory. Also it's almost always cheaper online (and in US funds).

Ebay is a good idea though. Thank you... I'll check there. :)

[lostdoggy]

Tough love I might say but since you asked,
I think the S1 IS w/ 10x zoom would pretty much cover the TC and the 3X zoom on the A70 for under $280US brand new. 1GB CF can be had for $50. Total cost $330.00 Brand New.
How much I would pay if consider taking it of your hand $150. Sorry to say thats on a generous day.

[Spirit]

When I was out buying the S2 this morning, I looked to check the cost of my A70 new.

The A70 brand new in Canada (in local stores NOT internet prices) is $299 (but I've seen sales for $250), and the teleconverter plus adapter is $188 (before tax). and a 1gb compactflash card is $139 (and up).

Total NEW cost to buy it IN MY CITY (with a 1GB card) = $627 BEFORE tax. After tax = $717

These are local store prices. Yes, the S1 beats the A70 with the TC (combined optical zoom of 7.4x).
The S1 sells for $499, but I wouldn't sell my A70 for $500 no matter WHAT it includes. That is WAY too high. $150 on the other hand? Yeah, I don't think so. I got an offer this afternoon for $400... I think that's more than fair, but the guy who's interested is a friend of mine (and I don't like selling anything to friends). I offered it to him for $300 but I don't feel right about it.

[stoneylonesome]

If there selling for $700 new around you, and your gear is in very good condition. I think you are giving your friend a good deal at $300 thats better than 50% off. keeping in mind that it is really only the camera that depreciates not the teleconverter and adapter, they hold there value, that and the flash card. My feeling is that if your friend was willing to pay $400 and you offered it to him for $300, there should never be any hard feelings.

[mdude85]

eh ... what is up with this high-balling? OP, sorry, but you got really screwed when you first bought this camera. it is worth $200-$250 now. maybe you'd be able to get $300 for the entire package. good luck!

there is no such thing as talking about a "new" A70 -- this camera is more than 2 years old and it is DISCONTINUED. they don't really sell it in any major american stores -- best buy, circuit city, compusa, etc ... on Amazon.com you can get one for $180.

Personally I was thinking about buying an A70 for my travels in Europe, and I was considering it as an alternative to a NEW A510, which I paid about $180 for. So anyone who does any legitimate research is not going to want to spend much over that price for the camera alone. Adding the 1GB card adds about $60-$70 in value, especially if used.

[Spirit]

Are you being ignorant or rude (no offense)? I did the research in several stores located in my area. They're still selling the A70 for $299 (though likely not for long), teleconverter with adapter $188, and 1gb memory card (the cheap kind) is $140 (which btw I'm not even sure the A70 accepts. Add tax to those 3 and you get $717.19

Or they can buy the S1 for $499 with 1gb for $140 for $731 (including tax). Not much of a deal for the A70 with teleconverter, if you ask me.

mdude: If you want to buy yourself an A70 to replace your A510, then I suggest you shop online (seems to be the best prices) and buy a second hand A70 without the teleconverter. You should be able to find one for $50 USD (used). It's an excellent camera, no doubt.

For mine, I've gotten a couple offers on mine around the $300 mark for the kit, and $160 for just the camera. And one offer for $400 from a friend (which I turned down - I don't sell to -or rip off- friends). Those prices are a bit high still, but that's beside the point of this thread. I haven't advertised yet, and while I'm deciding, I gave it to a family member.

Also, I don't live in the USA (nor do I live on the internet). Prices here? Different. :)

But I digress... After shopping in the stores for a new one (while they still sell them), and looking through all of the "buy and sell" type papers (classified ads), I think I have a pretty good idea of what to ask for. Now it's just a matter of deciding if it's worth it to sell it at all. Not because I won't get much, but because I'd lose quite a bit in the 2 years I've had it.

Edit: (case in point) http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10057434&catid=
Much cheaper in the states OR online orders (which not everyone likes or is able to do).

No biggie. Thank you all!

[cjm]

A Canon G3 with the lens and all the stuff you mentioned I have seen sell for around $300 US so for a A70 considerably less. However if you sell on a place like eBay, I really recommend selling them separate. You'll do much better reselling it that way instead of selling on one lot that basically novices will buy.

[mdude85]

Are you being ignorant or rude (no offense)? I did the research in several stores located in my area. They're still selling the A70 for $299 (though likely not for long), teleconverter with adapter $188, and 1gb memory card (the cheap kind) is $140 (which btw I'm not even sure the A70 accepts. Add tax to those 3 and you get $717.19

Or they can buy the S1 for $499 with 1gb for $140 for $731 (including tax). Not much of a deal for the A70 with teleconverter, if you ask me.

mdude: If you want to buy yourself an A70 to replace your A510, then I suggest you shop online (seems to be the best prices) and buy a second hand A70 without the teleconverter. You should be able to find one for $50 USD (used). It's an excellent camera, no doubt.

For mine, I've gotten a couple offers on mine around the $300 mark for the kit, and $160 for just the camera. And one offer for $400 from a friend (which I turned down - I don't sell to -or rip off- friends). Those prices are a bit high still, but that's beside the point of this thread. I haven't advertised yet, and while I'm deciding, I gave it to a family member.

Also, I don't live in the USA (nor do I live on the internet). Prices here? Different. :)

But I digress... After shopping in the stores for a new one (while they still sell them), and looking through all of the "buy and sell" type papers (classified ads), I think I have a pretty good idea of what to ask for. Now it's just a matter of deciding if it's worth it to sell it at all. Not because I won't get much, but because I'd lose quite a bit in the 2 years I've had it.

Edit: (case in point) http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10057434&catid=
Much cheaper in the states OR online orders (which not everyone likes or is able to do).

No biggie. Thank you all!

I am not sure what is rude at all by my post. I meant that I was shopping for either an A70 or an A510, and went with the A510. My point in saying this is that the A510 and A70 have comparable prices if you are an intelligent shopper. If A70s cost $300 everywhere, I wouldn't have shopped for the A70 and the A510 ($180) at the same time.

I don't know what kind of shops you are looking at, but they're obviously not the best places to buy photo gear. If you want to buy a 1 GB card for $140, perhaps I have some Florida swampland to sell you.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=248561&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=247581&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

It's difficult to find the A70 since it's discontinued -- some people put a premium on it and sell it as a "rare" item. That is BS. A camera that is so old as to be obsolete shouldn't see an increase in price -- rather it should see a decrease as people should be trying to wash out their inventory. If you just look at some online retailers you'll be able to find one from about $180-250. I'm sorry if you don't "live" on the internet -- you're losing a bunch of money! B&H ships internationally.

This puts the total package at an average of around $350 USD. (210 for camera, 80 for adapter, 80 for card)

[Spirit]

Again though, those are not only online prices (which are always cheaper than in store), but they're in US funds. The exchange rate brings those numbers closer (but still under) the numbers I mentioned above (local in store prices). And that's before tax as well.

At any rate, I appreciate your help/advice but it seems evident that most of the people here know where to look for the best prices, and have the abilities to purchase gear from the other side of the world.

The lowest offer I recieved (not neccessarily from interested buyers) was $280. The highest was $400.

$350 usd transfered to Canadian funds minus shipping (but plus tax for comaparrison purposes) is $492.35. Compare that to the $717.19 from my local store... Much cheaper to buy online. I think we all know this as fact.

Based on these numbers, I think $300 is fair.

One more thing I'd like to mention though... The cheapest I've seen the S2 around here (and I looked HARD) is $679 (on sale). Online is $450. Now I certainly won't sell something valued here at $1000 for $50 because in Europe it costs $200... (just trying to make a point).

Again, thank you all. This thread may now die. ;)

[lostdoggy]

Spirit, your original question is " what would you pay? A70 for sale"

S1 IS does nt go for any where near the $400 price you are quoting, matter of fact I just saw it this weekend at the local store for $279. Dell has it for about the same price. So if you are asking me what I will pay for a use camera, that is what I will pay. As for CF, I can get 1GB Sandisk Extreme III for $109and that would be over kill on the A70. I got a 2GB from Dell for $95 and that is still lot less per GB then what you want.
I don't believe in being charitable when I'm looking for bargains. I work too hard for my money. so or me to consider buying a used camea for $400 is insane. I would rather invest in a new camera at that point. You have either very nice friends or very Naive friends, willing to give (literally) you $400 for your camera. To think that I will save 10% on a use item, I would rather buy new. The saving is not worth the trouble and especially my friendship.
When I was considering to sell my DRebel, kit lens, 1GB CF, 512MB CF, and 2 xtra Batteries I was asking $450. That I thought was very reasonable considering it was less then a year old.

It seems to me that ou are not willing to part with the camera then I suggest keeping it.

I'm not trying to be rude just being reasonable. I personally don't buy used equiptment, but if the price is right I would consider it. At $300 for used camera that is obsolete and personally consider a toy is not reasonable.

[Spirit]

Spirit, your original question is " what would you pay? A70 for sale"

S1 IS does nt go for any where near the $400 price you are quoting, matter of fact I just saw it this weekend at the local store for $279.

Seriously, is there no "rest of the world" for some of you people?

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10040906&catid=

$469 ON SALE from $499.

Also http://www.blackphotostore.com/english/proddetail.asp?sku=4263

And http://www.kerrisdalecameras.com/store/product.asp?shopper_id=NK5MSWUC2H9N8NA6NK31DJRC9WG FC6D9&dept_id=5032&pf_id=156.9179&more=true (coming down!)

Edit: This thread should be locked and/or deleted.

[mdude85]

Seriously, is there no "rest of the world" for some of you people?



I kind of resent that, especially since I am from the USA but I have been been back there in more than two months. Right now I am living in Europe. I think I am quite familiar with "the rest of the world." While electronics like compact cameras tend to be more expensive in countries like France, Canada, and England, perhaps I suggest you shop for your products in cheaper places like the USA or Japan. It's not uncommon for people in Europe to pay with products in American dollars from American sellers. It can be done easily with credit card and banking companies, for instance, for a small fee and sometimes no fee, to change currency. I don't understand some people's desire to find the highest prices they can for these products? I think most of us are obviously aware that there are people trying to rip us off by trying to charge exhorbitant prices.

The exchange rate for the Canadian dollar to the American dollar is about 0.8. This means you should consider charging maybe $280 Canadian dollars for the camera. If you are selling to US buyers, you need to lower your price. That is all there is to it. They don't care how much you spent. They don't care whether or not you were fleeced. How much it costs to them is simply the bottom line. Good luck. This thread doesn't deserve to be locked, as it is one of the more interesting threads on this entire forum.

[Spirit]

I was using this for currency conversion (which tends to be about 98% accurate in my experience).
http://www.xe.com/ucc/

I'll agree that this is an interesting thread, it's just that my ad (if I place it) will be placed in my local buy and sell, based on what it sold for new 2 years ago, and what they sell for NOW in the stores, minus 50% (and yes, I WOULD state that this model, although still available at some stores, has indeed been discontinued). All those links I posted above are within a 30 minute walk from my front door. If they wanted on online shop (ie. ebay) for better deals, they would. That's my only point.

I've asked a lot of customers at my work as well (just every day people who'd like to have a point and shoot camera for everyday purposes), and I've come to the conclusion that $300 is a more than fair price. I think I could likely get more, but I wouldn't take more (as I would surely be ripping them off - and that's not my style). What I need to determine NOW, is if it's worth it to sell it at all.

Maybe asking people (who photography is a very serious hobby, work, or lifestyle to), what THEY would pay for an old A70 with accessories... was a bad idea.

At any rate, I appreciate all the replies and insight on finding the best deal. I learned a lot about online shopping, if nothing else. lol! :)

[mdude85]

Whatever the market will bear is what you should charge. If someone comes up to you and offers $800, then take it. In the end this is their loss for not doing the research. good luck ..