Anyone know when a Lightroom 3 Release is coming?

[resqd1]

Lightroom 3 relase date? anyone heard? Not Beta, Full Version, thanks

[JayCee Images]

Well the Beta expires i think in March...or maybe April....?

So i would expect sometime shortly after that.

[Moogle Pepper]

Yeah it would suck for the beta to expire and then release the full one a while later.

[joe9047]

Lightroom 2 is in today's Amazon deal of the day ($188.99). 3's release can't be too far down the road.

[Er1kksen]

It better not be until April, as I have no means with which to afford the full version after my beta expires and I've got a lot of photos to optimize...

[lauderdalems]

I also remember the beta version set to expire in March, 2010. I would hope the full version would be released prior to the beta expiration - like a week or two overlap.

[swblackwood]

It better not be until April, as I have no means with which to afford the full version after my beta expires and I've got a lot of photos to optimize...

I would imagine that if the final product is not ready, there will be a new beta. However, I must ask: who relies on a beta?

[Eagle i]

what are the main differences from LR 2.6 to 3.0?

[resqd1]

for me it will be 1.2 to 3.0 so i am sure there will be great increases.

[PhotosByEric]

Does any one know if the $99 upgrade from LR1 to LR2 will also apply to LR1 to LR3? I'm wanting to upgrade but if LR3 will be out soon I'll just wait it out instead of getting LR2.

Eric

[sweetlu60]

Just a caution on those of you who use the Beta, remember that the catalogs will not likely be usable in the final release, they tell you that in the release notes.

[Er1kksen]

I would imagine that if the final product is not ready, there will be a new beta. However, I must ask: who relies on a beta?

Someone on a very tight budget. Think outside the steady-income box, here. ;) I can't currently shell out for lightroom 2, but lightroom 3 should be in grasping distance by the time it arrives.

I'm prepared for the catalogs not working. In the meantime, I've got photos to export and print NOW, so plodding along with RAWTherapee when I could just use the LR3 Beta and get much better results doesn't make much sense.

[BeritOlam]

Just a caution on those of you who use the Beta, remember that the catalogs will not likely be usable in the final release, they tell you that in the release notes.

I'm in the same boat here....

Any updates on an eta of LR3? I know the Beta 2 has come out since the last post here....so me thinks maybe there's still more bugs they want to work out before releasing.

Inquiring minds want and need to know.... :) :)

[Young_Werther]

what are the main differences from LR 2.6 to 3.0?

Noise reduction and sharpening is one of the main things. It's amazing.

[kaystewartphoto]

Think it should be around June/July as when i installed LR 3 V2, it said it will run through June

[dontcallmeash]

when i dl'd lr3, it told me that i'd have to uninstall it and buy lr3 in june.

they keep pushing it back with each new beta.

[Er1kksen]

Noise reduction and sharpening is one of the main things. It's amazing.

More than that, actually, it uses an entirely new (and much better) demosaicing algorithm that gets a lot more out of your files even before the superior NR and sharpening enter the picture.

Fun fact: at the bottom of the adjustments panel, where you can do specific color profiling, there's an option to change it back to the old algorithm if you want. No real practical reason to do so, but it's fun to see how much better the new process makes your photos look.

[DigitalBoy]

Will this work alongside CS3?

[MLphoto]

Can't wait to download CS5 extended and Lightroom 3 when they come out :-)

[JayCee Images]

Will this work alongside CS3?

It should just fine.

[randomlinh]

I'm hoping the beta got pushed back because they will let lens correction out of the bag. They put it in CS5, but not LR3? That seems like a huge mistake.

Yes, they can get you for more money, but it just makes so much more sense to have it in a mass workflow environment. It's not like CS5 won't be needed still.

[GBunney]

I am running LR beta 3.2 and it does not expire until the end of June. So one would assume that the final version will come out sometime in June.

[JayCee Images]

I am running LR beta 3.2 and it does not expire until the end of June. So one would assume that the final version will come out sometime in June.

Unless they bump it back...again.

[fensterbme]

I think something is up at Adobe... I was at PPA/ImagingUSA in mid January and Tom Hogarty said that there would only be one beta and quote "the Beta expires in April and Adobe's Investors want to make sure that we have something to sell you". Not long after he tells me and a room full of people this they unveil a second beta...

So I have no idea what's going on, but clearly there has been a change since where the development team was in early Q1 2010.

I personally wonder if Lightroom is dealing with some scope creep to the product release... i.e. if they are under pressure to add some more features before releasing the product? Perhaps a push to incorporate doing more than just 'viewing video assets' (which I kinda doubt) or something like adding some of the more consumer focused stuff that Aperture added such as facial reccognition or GPS data inclusion... I really don't know, I just know that they took a decidedly different course of action than their product manager was talking earlier this year.

[Er1kksen]

Maybe they just want it to coincide more closely with the CS5 release.

[mouettus]

I think something is up at Adobe... I was at PPA/ImagingUSA in mid January and Tom Hogarty said that there would only be one beta and quote "the Beta expires in April and Adobe's Investors want to make sure that we have something to sell you". Not long after he tells me and a room full of people this they unveil a second beta...

So I have no idea what's going on, but clearly there has been a change since where the development team was in early Q1 2010.

I personally wonder if Lightroom is dealing with some scope creep to the product release... i.e. if they are under pressure to add some more features before releasing the product? Perhaps a push to incorporate doing more than just 'viewing video assets' (which I kinda doubt) or something like adding some of the more consumer focused stuff that Aperture added such as facial reccognition or GPS data inclusion... I really don't know, I just know that they took a decidedly different course of action than their product manager was talking earlier this year.

Interesting thoughts. I found myself wondering a couple of times if this new version of the software should be like 3.0 ............. or 2.7-8 or something. Same layout, same tools, a little better performance, NR enhanced, new "import" window. That's all that comes to mind right now when I think of features that I will actually use. But is that enough to make me go "wow... I just spent a couple of hundred dollars on this upgrade and it's worth it!"

In fact, I think it might be more appealing to the guy who doesn't own Lightroom yet...

[wdwpsu]

Interesting thoughts. I found myself wondering a couple of times if this new version of the software should be like 3.0 ............. or 2.7-8 or something. Same layout, same tools, a little better performance, NR enhanced, new "import" window. That's all that comes to mind right now when I think of features that I will actually use. But is that enough to make me go "wow... I just spent a couple of hundred dollars on this upgrade and it's worth it!"

In fact, I think it might be more appealing to the guy who doesn't own Lightroom yet...
Video support, Tethered Shooting, NR out of the park, Point Curve in Curve panel, Improved Slideshows, MUCH better Vignetting, Watermarks...
This is not a .x release. This is much bigger.

CS4 Sales were lower because, among other reasons, Lightroom. My guess is they are trying to get the CS5 sales first and then put Lightroom out a couple months later.

Personally, I'm holding out on upgrading to CS5, because I want to get the LR3 discount when purchased with Photoshop discount (Assuming they'll still offer that with LR3).

[mouettus]

Video support, Tethered Shooting, NR out of the park, Point Curve in Curve panel, Improved Slideshows, MUCH better Vignetting, Watermarks...
This is not a .x release. This is much bigger.

CS4 Sales were lower because, among other reasons, Lightroom. My guess is they are trying to get the CS5 sales first and then put Lightroom out a couple months later.

Personally, I'm holding out on upgrading to CS5, because I want to get the LR3 discount when purchased with Photoshop discount (Assuming they'll still offer that with LR3).

thanks for shedding some light on the features... but those aren't really features that I think ppl will be using very much

vignetting isn't new, tethered shooting: not really a portable solution, watermarks already existed, slideshows... really?, point curve is kinda nice but heh... what couldn't you fix with the sliders? I still use them! In fact, sliders would be nice in PS!

LR is a really nice piece of software don't get me wrong. In fact, I REALLY enjoy working with it. I'm only talking about the new features which to me, aren't ground breaking.

[wdwpsu]

thanks for shedding some light on the features... but those aren't really features that I think ppl will be using very much

vignetting isn't new, tethered shooting: not really a portable solution, watermarks already existed, slideshows... really?, point curve is kinda nice but heh... what couldn't you fix with the sliders? I still use them! In fact, sliders would be nice in PS!

LR is a really nice piece of software don't get me wrong. In fact, I REALLY enjoy working with it. I'm only talking about the new features which to me, aren't ground breaking.
As a professional who has had to go through third parties (Nik Software Dfine for Noise Management, Mogrify for Watermarks, and Photoshow for slideshows) on a weekly, if not daily basis.. I know I will be using these feature extensively. Less time = More Money. This is a major upgrade.

Tethered shooting is huge for any product or studio photographers.

Vignetting existing, but it was crap. Same deal with Noise Reduction.

So, if you are using your camera to take pictures of the kids, it's probably not worth the upgrade. But, if you are reading the forums here, you probably are a little more advanced than that, and the $99 upgrade will definitely be worth all of the great new features.

[fensterbme]

Interesting thoughts. I found myself wondering a couple of times if this new version of the software should be like 3.0 ............. or 2.7-8 or something. Same layout, same tools, a little better performance, NR enhanced, new "import" window. That's all that comes to mind right now when I think of features that I will actually use. But is that enough to make me go "wow... I just spent a couple of hundred dollars on this upgrade and it's worth it!"

In fact, I think it might be more appealing to the guy who doesn't own Lightroom yet...

It's a much larger upgrade than a dot release... even if I were just an amature hobbyist I'd gladly pay the $99. The new RAW rendering and other cleaner images controls are totally worth it.

Things like the enhanced watermarking (the previous version was a joke), slideshow options, being able to shoot tethered and other upgrades are huge if your a professional.


CS4 Sales were lower because, among other reasons, Lightroom. My guess is they are trying to get the CS5 sales first and then put Lightroom out a couple months later.


I have also wondered if they had a few more folks try to help get CS5 launched as I think there is a few folks who have dual roles.

I think the big reason CS4 didn't sell well was the economy which hit the creative industry really hard, and the reality is that most creatives can get by with the prior release so why drop some $$$ when you'd prefer just to keep the lights on. I also think to a much lesser extent the lack of 64bit was pretty annoying to folks (which is what happens when Adobe plays chicken with Apple)...

[randomlinh]

I think the big reason CS4 didn't sell well was the economy which hit the creative industry really hard, and the reality is that most creatives can get by with the prior release so why drop some $$$ when you'd prefer just to keep the lights on. I also think to a much lesser extent the lack of 64bit was pretty annoying to folks (which is what happens when Adobe plays chicken with Apple)...
Given a lot of designers are on Macs, Adobe got blindsided/lazy (depends on who you asked) because Apple pushed ppl to Cocoa dropping support for Carbon in programing. Adobe had to do some major under-the-hood stuff for CS5.

But yes, crap economy didn't help either when CS3 still worked, heh.

[DarthSparky]

I would think June, given the run-out date for L3V2. Not sure when CS5 will start to ship - I guess they'll want a little distance between that and L3 shipping.

[photodudeny1]

Since they just took the trouble of updating to 2.7, its clearly not going to be immediate