Some ambient bball

[Sauk]

Shot ambient this past friday, enjoy

1
http://www.801images.com/img/v3/p873401348-4.jpg

2
http://www.801images.com/img/v6/p726685741-4.jpg

3
http://www.801images.com/img/v8/p666050296-4.jpg

4
http://www.801images.com/img/v4/p750310069-4.jpg

5
http://www.801images.com/img/v6/p594929487-4.jpg

[wyofizz]

Ambient BBall--Blasphemy:eek:

[canonnoob]

Ambient BBall--Blasphemy:eek:

exactly what I was thinking....


Matt,

any NR done on these?

[Dan-o]

What the hell HS gym gets 1600/620 @2.8. Why would you bother with strobes with that light. Nicely done Matt.

[Sauk]

lol yeah when I got there I said to myself I might as well just shoot ambient.

The bad part, there were really hot areas on the floor and the light was very very flat. If I shot proper exposure the players skin looked very flat because of the lights, but if I underexposed they looked better. Kinda weird.

I guess they had a bunch of lights out and replaced the bulbs this year and they are those super super bright almost blue like lights.

On one end I could shoot 1600 ISO F2.8 1/640th and on the other end I needed 2000/2500 F2.8 1/640th.

[snyderman]

Good stuff as always. And about as good as it gets without lights!

dave

[namasste]

Matt, these are quite nice indeed. No idea on the underexposure thing but you have enough contrast there to keep things from looking flat.

[Sauk]

here is what I meant by really flat lighting. I tried but there was nothing I could do to liven up the image

http://www.801images.com/img/v7/p818035003-5.jpg

[namasste]

here is what I meant by really flat lighting. I tried but there was nothing I could do to liven up the image


I see what you mean. I'll take flat and clean over some of the stuff I've gotten shooting ambient in some of our gyms though. Later on, I'll take a stab at it and see if I can get any pop from it. If I can, I'll post the result and process.

[Sauk]

there is a larger image for ya to mess with. If you want I can get you the raw file to play with., just pm me your email and make sure it can accept very large files :)

[superdiver]

nice job, i shoot ambient all the time... dont let them give you too hard a time...

[wyofizz]

We were just busting his chops.
Matt is a pioneer in these parts with strobed sports. :D

[ChasWG]

Matt, I was looking at your gear list. What lens did you shoot these with? The 70-200L I image. But I was wondering if you use the 17-50 f2.8 Tamron for Basketball too?

Nice images. That 7D has really special high ISO characteristics!

[liam5100]

lol yeah when I got there I said to myself I might as well just shoot ambient.

The bad part, there were really hot areas on the floor and the light was very very flat. If I shot proper exposure the players skin looked very flat because of the lights, but if I underexposed they looked better. Kinda weird.

I guess they had a bunch of lights out and replaced the bulbs this year and they are those super super bright almost blue like lights.

On one end I could shoot 1600 ISO F2.8 1/640th and on the other end I needed 2000/2500 F2.8 1/640th.

Nice shots Matt.

I always shoot ambient, since I'm usually tight on time, and I'm lazy. But I do know of those issues all to well. Different colored bulbs, new ones being brighter, hot spots on floors. I've shot gyms where I could get ISO 2000 in one spot, 10ft to the left I needed 6400 for proper exposure.

But shooting ambient in bad lighting is a skill I'm still trying to master, its an art, a talent and skill set that's required for great shots. Just another example of how knowing what your doing is often way better than what your doing it with.

[Sauk]

Matt, I was looking at your gear list. What lens did you shoot these with? The 70-200L I image. But I was wondering if you use the 17-50 f2.8 Tamron for Basketball too?

Nice images. That 7D has really special high ISO characteristics!

Chase,

Those were with the 70-200. I do use the Tamron for sure, not a ton but I do use it every once in a while. AF is not great, better walk around lens, portrait type lens but it does just fine for me.

http://www.801images.com/img/v7/p703560584-3.jpg

[Sauk]

Nice shots Matt.

I always shoot ambient, since I'm usually tight on time, and I'm lazy. But I do know of those issues all to well. Different colored bulbs, new ones being brighter, hot spots on floors. I've shot gyms where I could get ISO 2000 in one spot, 10ft to the left I needed 6400 for proper exposure.

But shooting ambient in bad lighting is a skill I'm still trying to master, its an art, a talent and skill set that's required for great shots. Just another example of how knowing what your doing is often way better than what your doing it with.

Without a doubt ambient is much much harder. I always shoot raw when shooting ambient, as you knows it allows for more leeway in post processing.