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fatcat2000
6th of February 2010 (Sat), 16:08
Hi gang. SHot in Raw, auto WB. Wanting to do edits in LR but don't know where to start with WB. I'll crop, straighten and edit after that. Please help with basic WB corrections.
Thanks so much./Users/julia/Desktop/ParkTUdor_basketball-44.jpg

fatcat2000
6th of February 2010 (Sat), 16:17
Ok. I have the photo with correct size on my desktop, how do I attach it to the post? Can't figure it out. DUH.

MJPhotos24
6th of February 2010 (Sat), 16:52
You have to go to advanced and use the attach icon (paperclip) - it must also fit within size limits. Only other way is to have it online and use the insert image icon (mountain).

fatcat2000
6th of February 2010 (Sat), 17:09
ok I think this is the poor photo. Just checking dimensions . PLEASE CC specifically with WB. I can do the other LR adjustments (perhaps)

bfree32
6th of February 2010 (Sat), 19:24
WB looks pretty good to me, maybe a tad warm. Pretty hard to tell though with the small size and underexposure.

rpolitsr
6th of February 2010 (Sat), 23:26
Lights on a Gym are tricky.
The WB in your sample is slightly warm, but Auto WB worked almost good.

I worked with your JPG sample:
In Develop mode pick the White Balance Selector (W or click the eyedropper in the WB pane)
Click the sleeve on the left arm of player 23, it seems a good white sample.
The WB in LightRoom changes from as shot to custom and you can read the new color temperature if it is a Raw file or a correction number beteen -100 and +100 if it is jpg.
Aditionally, I increased the exposure to +0.5 and the recovery slider to 20 for what looks as a good correction of your sample.

fatcat2000
7th of February 2010 (Sun), 08:08
rpolitsr,
Thanks for the comments! Thanks exactly what I was looking for, some cc. Thanks you for taking the time to play with it. Now I'll go make some adjustments in lightroom.

Much appreciated!!

zelseman
9th of February 2010 (Tue), 14:50
I would first work on a brighter exposure, and setting up a custom wb. It would save you a ton of editing time.

snyderman
9th of February 2010 (Tue), 15:23
Hey fatcat:

shooting basketball = big fun. A couple of good places to begin for WB during shooting would be the fluorescent (sp?) or incandescent or AWB in that order. You can also do a custom WB with your camera probably. Read up on that.

Also, you can shoot RAW files and correct after the fact using DPP software that came with your camera.

Standard settings for indoor basketball should be 1/500 on the shutter, f/2.0 or 2.8 (depending on what lens you choose) and ISO as high as needed to get proper exposures.

Also, you can probably desaturate the image you posted and get better white balance if it's already a .jpeg.

dave

neilwood32
11th of February 2010 (Thu), 11:40
I would first work on a brighter exposure, and setting up a custom wb. It would save you a ton of editing time.

I wouldnt worry about the exposure too much or WB for that matter.

If all your shots are showing similar issues (ie WB or exposure) just batch process them.

Bear in mind I use PS CS4 so YMMV but the process I use is: select the images and import to ACR, select all the images, perform WB alterations and exposure tweaks, synchronise and bingo - all done!

Takes virtually no additional processing time at all - maybe 10-20 secs at most!.

zelseman
11th of February 2010 (Thu), 22:24
I wouldnt worry about the exposure too much or WB for that matter.

If all your shots are showing similar issues (ie WB or exposure) just batch process them.

I disagree. It is easier to set a custom wb and to take an image with a proper exposure than it is to fix in post. Your method seems lazy to me. Just get it right in camera and you don't have to worry about any problems you may face with fixing it in post.

And especially when shooting indoor sports, if you push the exposure in post at iso 1600, you will see noticeably more noise in your images.

DDCSD
12th of February 2010 (Fri), 12:47
Setting a custom WB would be pretty much worthless in a typical HS & lower level gym. The lights are fairly low and cycle, giving you 2-3 different color temps to deal with. each light will be putting out a different color every time you trip the shutter.

Fixing it in post is really the only way to deal with it, and even then you usually get 2-3 different color temps in the same photo.

On fact, I see 3 different color temps in the OP's posted photo.

neilwood32
12th of February 2010 (Fri), 16:33
I disagree. It is easier to set a custom wb and to take an image with a proper exposure than it is to fix in post. Your method seems lazy to me. Just get it right in camera and you don't have to worry about any problems you may face with fixing it in post.

And especially when shooting indoor sports, if you push the exposure in post at iso 1600, you will see noticeably more noise in your images.

I am not saying to be lazy and not try to get things right in camera.

What I am suggesting is that in a poorly lit gym, it is not always possible to "get things right".

As DDCSD points out, it would be virtually impossible to get a custom WB that would address the issue of the cycling lights.