Pixmantec announces RawShooter premium 2005

[Jesper]

I got a newsletter from Pixmantec yesterday.

They announced RawShooter premium 2005 in it, which is going to be the non-free but more feature rich version of RS essentials 2005.

No info yet about what's going to be in RS premium that's not in RS essentials...

[aam1234]

They didn't say much, only this:

"RawShooter | premium 2005 - Get Ready!

We will inform you when RawShooter | premium 2005 is available. If the features embodied in RawShooter | premium 2005 optimize your workflow even more than RawShooter | essentials 2005 then we hope that you will purchase RawShooter | premium 2005."

[ScottE]

Has anybody been able to find out what features it has the Rawshooter Essentials does not have or what the price will be?

I have been using Rawshooter Essentials and have been quite happy with it. The premium product will have to be very good if it is going to compete with the free version.

Scott

[TonyKInTexas]

They are being very quiet about the features and price.

[CyberDyneSystems]

All I can say is that the free version is sooo good.

I'm very curious to see what they add to make me want to pony up the ducats.

[aam1234]

Personally, I think DPP is an awesome program. People don't take it very seriously because it's a free software.

[TonyKInTexas]

My issue with DPP is saving directly to the CRW/CR2 file. Yes there is an option to NOT save the "recipe". Unfortunately I have not found a way to make it a default though I will admit to not looking very hard either.

I use Bibble Pro and CO LE most of the time.

[RichardtheSane]

There are two things that keep me from using RSE full time

No crop feature
It is slow to 'use'. My current PC is a 3.2ghz P4 HT with 1gb ram and it feels very sluggish in RSE :(

[TonyKInTexas]

I find the only good tool for cropping is PS. CO LE and Bibble have issues when it comes to cropping.

[PhotosGuy]

It is slow to 'use'. My current PC is a 3.2ghz P4 HT with 1gb ram and it feels very sluggish in RSE I only have about 2.5ghz w/512 & it seems pretty fast. Maybe it's just in comparison to my old WinDoze OS. ;-)

[Jesper]

Personally, I think DPP is an awesome program. People don't take it very seriously because it's a free software.But RawShooter essentials 2005 is also free and there are a lot of people who like it a lot. I don't believe that people don't take DPP seriously just because it's free... :confused:

[TonyKInTexas]

I don't take DPP seriously because it attempts to modify the RAW file by default. The user can over-ride this, true.

My feelings are it should not modify the RAW file at all. It could do like RSE and put the recipe files in a sub-folder just below the RAW files or do like Bibble does and put the recipe files in the folder with the RAW files.

[aam1234]

But RawShooter essentials 2005 is also free and there are a lot of people who like it a lot. I don't believe that people don't take DPP seriously just because it's free... :confused:

You are right Jesper. And I like RSE a lot too, but for some reason I feel more comfortable with DPP, no idea why.

[cmM]

so has onyone found out/fixed the "washer out colors" issue? It's a neat converter but i get better results with other soft such as the mother of all bugs, C1

[aam1234]

I don't take DPP seriously because it attempts to modify the RAW file by default. The user can over-ride this, true.

My feelings are it should not modify the RAW file at all. It could do like RSE and put the recipe files in a sub-folder just below the RAW files or do like Bibble does and put the recipe files in the folder with the RAW files.

From what I understand, and I'm very new to RAW so I could be wrong, but that's what DPP does. It doesn't change the file itself, but it saves the changes you've made somewhere.

Can Anybody confirm that. Thanks

[Jesper]

From what I understand, and I'm very new to RAW so I could be wrong, but that's what DPP does. It doesn't change the file itself, but it saves the changes you've made somewhere.

Can Anybody confirm that. ThanksBy default, it saves a "recipe" inside your RAW file. It doesn't modify the existing data in the RAW file, it just adds the recipe - a list of instructions that say what curves and other corrections to do to the RAW data.

Other programs, such as Photoshop, don't recognise the recipe that DPP adds to your RAW files, so in Photoshop it doesn't matter if there's a recipe added to the file or not.

[Sathi]

so has onyone found out/fixed the "washer out colors" issue? It's a neat converter but i get better results with other soft such as the mother of all bugs, C1

This is a known problem? I spent a few hours last night trying to figuere out why my tiffs out of RSE have washed out colours when opened up in photoshop compared to what is displayed within RSE.

[cmM]

This is a known problem? I spent a few hours last night trying to figuere out why my tiffs out of RSE have washed out colours when opened up in photoshop compared to what is displayed within RSE.
I'm not sure but I know for a fact I'm not the only one who has encountered it.

RSE
http://www.cmuntean.net/files/RSE.jpg

C1 Pro
http://www.cmuntean.net/files/C1.jpg

ACR
http://www.cmuntean.net/files/ACR.jpg

[Sathi]

Bah, I really like the interface of RSE and was hoping that would be my converter. What is interesting about the examples you posted is the picture looks dull in RSE. For me it looks great while in RSE, its only when I convert it and open it up somewhere else that the colours look faded.

[ssim]

Have you tried changing the appearance option on the right side of the screen. It really does change the how the image looks. I have done some comparison processing of RSE vs C1 (still my preference) and quite honestly there is little difference in most of the final images.

[cmM]

nope, haven't tried that thanks for pointing it out. I haven't used RSE very much I still like C1Pro, it does a good job at converting. Only if it wouldn't be so darn buggy. I think C1 is goin down the drain though slowly. I'll still use it as long as i can.

[Sathi]

so has onyone found out/fixed the "washer out colors" issue? It's a neat converter but i get better results with other soft such as the mother of all bugs, C1

So I went to the pixmantec website and came across a thread titled "Fireworks photos look better in RSE than converted" This is exactly my situation. I never noticed a problem with RSE until I tried to edit my fireworks pictures. I am at work and have not had a chance to test these, but the moderator outlined the following suggestions:

1. Make sure the "bypass color management" box is NOT checked in the RSE menu.

2. Make sure the working space under the batch convert tab in RSE is set to the same working space in all of your other image editors and/or converters (most likely sRGB or aRGB), it is imperative that these are all identical.

3. Make sure in your windows display properties it is showing your specific monitor(not generic), if windows doesn't detect it automatically you can usually chose it from a list.

4.Within the windows display properties make sure there is a profile under the monitor's color management(sRGB and aRGB are NOT profiles) you should be able to find a profile for your specific monitor, I have found that even the cheapest monitors have had one if you know where to look. *

5. make sure that if you have a video card that has an advanced control panel that there are no color profiles or adjustments set within the card's control panel(these would alter the profile selected within windows display properties).

6. If using Photoshop make sure the "Desaturate Monitor Colors by:__%" box is NOT checked under color settings.

7. Make sure your display settings are at 1024 x 768 (or higher) and your color is set to 24bit(or higher).

8. If you have the means buy a monitor calibration device(Eye-One for example) to help create an accurate profile.


Here is the link http://forum.pixmantec.com/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7523/an/0/page/0#7523

[bachscuttler]

No crop feature


Precisely my beef with it.

I hate it when I spend just a couple of minutes to get a (decent to start with) shot looking right then have to take it into photoshop just to crop it...in fact I have started to use Googles' Picasa (http://picasa.google.com/) for cropping/sizing if Photoshop is otherwise unnessary, it's much faster.

If the paid version of Rawshooter has a crop facility, I will definitely be buying it.
I want to be out taking shots, not glued to a monitor!

[ssim]

I'm sure that the cropping tool will be one of the features that they will put into the paid version of RSE. If it is I will most definitely give it a try as I too am fed up with C1 through out buggy software. It seems we are always waiting on them to issue a maintenance release.

[Ikinaa]

I'm sure that the cropping tool will be one of the features that they will put into the paid version of RSE. If it is I will most definitely give it a try as I too am fed up with C1 through out buggy software. It seems we are always waiting on them to issue a maintenance release.

The features of the premium version :
http://www.pixmantec.com/products/rawshooter_premium.html

Image Formatting Tools: Allow arbitrary rotation (to straighten horizons), lens distortion correction and image cropping (either freeform or to set standard)

[BrianEE93]

I don't take DPP seriously because it attempts to modify the RAW file by default. The user can over-ride this, true.

My feelings are it should not modify the RAW file at all. It could do like RSE and put the recipe files in a sub-folder just below the RAW files or do like Bibble does and put the recipe files in the folder with the RAW files.

I have mainly used RSE. After the processing parameters are saved into the RAW file with DPP is there anyway to hit a button and return to the original file? I would love to only back up the .CR2 file. If at a later date I wasn't happy with my processing, I could just have it revert back to the original. The problem with this is if DPP would go away some day and you are stuck converting them all back to the original before using other software.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Oh ! thanks for bumping this Ikinaa :)

I've been interested to see what the "Premium" version would offer.. the cropping and rotate tools are a great addition.. but this really peeked my interest!

Multi-threaded Batch processing:
Options such as output format (TIFF/JPEG) and automatic tagging of ICC profiles. Converts huge files in seconds with images queued for conversion in the background. Supports dual processors for maximum conversion speed ]

Whooo hooo!

Here's the full skinny...

The Ultimate RAW Workflow Tool!

RawShooter premium 2005 is a product that sets new standards for DSLR workflow. Whether you are a busy professional with demanding clients or an amateur balancing your photography with the pressures of work and family life, time is your main enemy. RawShooter | premium 2005 is designed to minimize the time spent at your workstation, giving you the best quality output and the fastest and simplest workflow of any similar product on the market today. RawShooter | premium 2005 contains a lot of technology with core functionality such as:





Integrated Image Downloader:
Integrated downloader of RAW images from an external card reader or a portable device to a chosen workstation directory.
Automatically flattens any number of directories to a single one and creates high resolution proxy files used for the slideshow

RAW vs. RAW Comparison:
The ability to tile upto 4 images on the same screen, to move around them all simultaneously and to zoom to the same locaiton on each

Powerful File Browser:
Full support for drag & drop, shortcuts, cursor sensitive hints and tips, scalable thumbnails, customizable background color and directory management including creation / rename (individually or batch) / deletion and defining favorites

Image Priority:
Assignment of priorities to individual or group of images

Slideshow:
Full screen slideshow of RAW images. During the editing process, individual files can be assigned priorities via the slideshow, or consigned to the recycle bin

Dynamic Preview:
True to life representation of how your converted image will look. Unlike, other previews, the dynamic preview instantly shows the effects of any changes that you make to the RAW iage, even at high magnifications

Powerful Image Correction Tools:
Image adjustment tools are provided for white balance, exposure compensation, dynamic range (fill light), shadow and highlight contrast, hue & saturation, sharpness, detail extraction, noise supression (both low frequency and color). Effects of slider based adjustments will be shown on the Dynamic Preview, no matter what the magnification

Curves/Levels Support:
Corrections to be made to tonal and exposure range of the image

Image Formatting Tools:
Allow arbitrary rotation (to straighten horizons), lens distortion correction and image cropping (either freeform or to set standard)
Snapshot: Several variations of the same RAW file, all with different levels of correction applied

Integral Color Database:
Fully color managed. No direct changes are made to RAW files. Any color changes made are stored externally from the product

Multi-threaded Batch processing:
Options such as output format (TIFF/JPEG) and automatic tagging of ICC profiles. Converts huge files in seconds with images queued for conversion in the background. Supports dual processors for maximum conversion speed

Fast Proof Mode:
Create email sized JPEGS at blazing speed

Printing:
Custom printer profile attached if required. This saves the need for a TIFF/JPEG to be stored on the PC, thus saving valuable disk space. Note that all color changes / priority assignments will be retained within the color database file
Limited price offer: $99.00!

List price: $119.00!

RawShooter | premium 2005 Compared to RawShooter | essentials 2005

Compared to RawShooter | essentials 2005 RawShooter | premium 2005 includes extra functionality such as: Integrated CF card off-loading; Batch/Bulk renaming; Cropping; Image straighting/arbitrary rotation; Distortion correction; Side by side RAW image comparing; Curves/levels adjustment; Enhanced white balance correction; Output resizing; Low resolution proofing output; Printing.

[Jack W.]

Has anyone been able to find a way to buy this? Web page isn't showing how.
Jack

[EOSAddict]

Where did you find that CDS??

[mapollo]

Where did you find that CDS??

It looks like he got it from Ikinaa's post above....

http://www.pixmantec.com/products/rawshooter_premium.html

99$ seems like a fair price doesn't it. The last time I checked Capture One were charging much more than that.

[Ikinaa]

I think they need someone at Pixmantec to make the Website. A lot of links don't work and information is rather hard to find.
I only found it because I looked for new version of RSE and clicked around a bit...

[EOSAddict]

Gothca - I couldn't download that at first

[Carzee]

This looks to be a big improvement for RSE. Lets hear if for the independents!

[ssim]

It doesn't look like it is available for purchase yet (at least I couldn't find it). At 99.00 I'll buy and give it a try. Their website does need some work.

[martook]

This page and product doesn't seem to be official yet, so no wonder their website needs some work... that's exactly what they are doing! :P

If you go to http://www.pixmantec.com you see what their page should really look like.

[Ikinaa]

This page and product doesn't seem to be official yet, so no wonder their website needs some work... that's exactly what they are doing! :P

If you go to http://www.pixmantec.com (http://www.pixmantec.com/) you see what their page should really look like.

They seem to have changed the first page. Today I reached the page with RSPremium in 2 clicks from the home page (Products-Rawshooter, then another I can't remember and I was there) now Products-Rawshooter goes to RSE... :lol:

[SSquared2000]

Wow! This is fantastic news. And the price is much less than I had expected. I had been hoping for better B/W control, but it's got cropping, levels, and curves, some of the other features I had hoped for.

Thanks for the information.