Do any of you NOT use your neck strap??

[Michelle Brooks Photography]

Is it just me or does this thing seem to have as its sole purpose entangling itself around wrists, getting in front of the lens, and creating general frustration? I find myself battling it often, especially when I go to take vertical shots. Should I just chuck it?

[Mike]

You ever thought about putting the strap around your neck...that way it doesn't often get in the way...;)

[bohdank]

Always, cross shouldered. Can never slide off your shoulder and is more comfortable. Can be swung behind you when you need to bend down...etc...

You need a long(er) strap. Never gets in the way. Well, maybe hangs up briefly 1 in 30 times when I have to bring it up to eye level. I have a "system" for preventing hangups. Works for me.

If you use something often enough, eventually you develop, or should have, an efficient system to use it.

[Dinoman]

You ever thought about putting the strap around your neck...that way it doesn't often get in the way...;)

:lol:

I don't use a neck strap since I went to the cotton carrier. I still have the quick release buckles for the strap on the camera which click together to make a handy handle for any times I don't have it in the CC.

[bohdank]

Until I actually see a Pro using one, I will consider all harnesses geeky ;-)

[Michelle Brooks Photography]

You ever thought about putting the strap around your neck...that way it doesn't often get in the way...;)

FOR REAL?!? :lol: Yeah, of course I have, but it still just seems...restrictive.

[Michelle Brooks Photography]

Always, cross shouldered. Can never slide off your shoulder and is more comfortable. Can be swung behind you when you need to bend down...etc...

You need a long(er) strap. Never gets in the way. Well, maybe hangs up briefly 1 in 30 times when I have to bring it up to eye level. I have a "system" for preventing hangups. Works for me.

If you use something often enough, eventually you develop, or should have, an efficient system to use it.
I couldn't possibly need a longer strap, I'm barely 5'~ maybe I just need to lendthen mine...oh...maybe that's what you meant!

Gonna give that cross shouldered thing a try...that was another peeve I have with the strap, when I bend down it's right there in my grill!

[sinjans]

I'm going for the R-Strap. I find the neckstrap gets in the way at times when shooting portraits. I took the strap off completley for my last shoot

[Michelle Brooks Photography]

I'm going for the R-Strap. I find the neckstrap gets in the way at times when shooting portraits. I took the strap off completley for my last shoot
What is an R strap?

Oh never mind I googled it. Interesting...

[sapearl]

I find it pretty essential...... for wedding work, hiking..... anytime that I actually need to free up my ends. Typically I'll be carrying two bodies at a wedding with one around the neck and the other usually on my shoulder.

When I'm hiking, the body/strap is either around my neck, wrapped around the wrist or again toted on an arm/shoulder. Perhaps it's more your technique than anything else? Maybe your strap isn't comfortable?

FOR REAL?!? :lol: Yeah, of course I have, but it still just seems...restrictive.

[macroshot]

What is an R strap?

Oh never mind I googled it. Interesting...

Yes, the R-strap for getting everything off the back of the neck where it chafes and adds (up to) a few pounds of uncomfortable weight, and is always in the way.

Once I tried it, I knew I wasn't going back. Expensive but does what is claims. Highly recommended!

[bohdank]

I couldn't possibly need a longer strap, I'm barely 5'~ maybe I just need to lendthen mine...oh...maybe that's what you meant!

Gonna give that cross shouldered thing a try...that was another peeve I have with the strap, when I bend down it's right there in my grill!

Yes, I meant lengthen it but some straps, at full extension are longer than others. The Opteck Classic is longer than some of their other straps, for example. I'm 6' and have it at absolute full extension.

Here is the "trick". Hopefully I can explain it. clearly.

Camera on my left side. Right thumb, hand facing away from body...pull the strap away from your body moving the right hand in an upwards direction(catch the strap around chest level) as you bring the camera up with your left hand. The camera should come up without the strap snagging on your body/clothes. If it does (flip the strap again with your right hand). If done right, the second movement should be rarely necessary.

This might take some practice to get the timing right, but once mastered, it becmes second nature and is very fast.

[Needsnow]

Went to a hand grip and the CC carrier a while ago. Works fine for ladies. I started a thread a while ago.

[silvrr]

Take a look at the E-1 hand strip since both your bodies are gripped. I rarely use my neck strap since getting mine.

[sapearl]

I forgot to mention earlier - I actually fabricated a cheat, using the Hakuba had strap in comination with a Tamrac neck strap. Using some extra "O" and "D" rings I have both straps simultaneously attached. This allows me to "strap" grab and shoot with the body, letting the neck portion either fall or wrap around my arm.

[Michelle Brooks Photography]

I find it pretty essential...... for wedding work, hiking..... anytime that I actually need to free up my ends. Typically I'll be carrying two bodies at a wedding with one around the neck and the other usually on my shoulder.

When I'm hiking, the body/strap is either around my neck, wrapped around the wrist or again toted on an arm/shoulder. Perhaps it's more your technique than anything else? Maybe your strap isn't comfortable?
No doubt, it's my technique, I'm just not sure what i need to change.

[Michelle Brooks Photography]

Take a look at the E-1 hand strip since both your bodies are gripped. I rarely use my neck strap since getting mine.
Actually, I use my 50D 99% of the time while my husband hogs his 7D :rolleyes: and I've found that the grip makes my camera too big for my hands with the grip on it, not to mention incredibly heavy coupled with my 70-200mm...meaning I'll probably have a grip for sale soon! How does this hand grip work wihtout a grip? Or, another thought, could it make my grip feel better in my hands or is that something that won't change unless my hand size does?;)

[silvrr]

The hand strap only works with the grip. I just wraps around your hand so you don't have to hold the camera it can kind of hang from your hand. It doesn't work for portrait mode though so if you do a lot of portraits not the best option.

[gjl711]

Is it just me or does this thing seem to have as its sole purpose entangling itself around wrists, getting in front of the lens, and creating general frustration? I find myself battling it often, especially when I go to take vertical shots. Should I just chuck it?
Yes it does. I don't have any of my neck straps on the camera. I do have a hand strap though.

[peterlcole]

I don't. It only got in the way and I never used it much anyway, so I took it off. If I want to give my hand a rest then I put it back in my SlingShot, where I can quickly retrieve it if I need to.

[Kafn8td]

It depends on what i'm shooting. Around the house, portraits, parties, no neck strap. City or country hiking, R Strap. Birding (usually set up in one spot), no strap.

[drocpsu]

I currently only use a wrist strap on my T1i, although I'm thinking about switching back to a neck strap so that I can have both hands free when I want it.

The few times I've used a neck strap I've done it similar to bohdank described slung across my body. It's the only way I've found it comfortable and useful to use a neck strap.

[mjHession]

mostly I use my luma loop, similar to the r strap but a bit more comfy IMO. But if I'm just going for a short walk with my wife I might not take it and just carry camera in hand.

[440roadrunner]

My big bitch with the Canon neck strap is---it's too short, because I would LIKE to use it "cross shoulder" and often instead hang it off my right shoulder. With the top of the camera against my side, I can "grab the grip" with my right when needed.

Also, the design of the camera anchors is silly. The camera is DESIGNED to hang with the back of the body against your chest---which is absolutely impossible with any lens other than an 18-55---the anchors should have been designed so the camera can hang straight DOWN.

There are times I'd have dropped mine without a strap. I hate hanging it on my chest, but I often leave it around my neck as a "safety" when shooting.

[jdang307]

Are there any hand/wrist straps that are reasonably secure? If I walk around I want to use a Lowepro fastpack. Then I want to pull it out, shoot, then put it back in if needed. I can leave the neckstrap on there but it's be less fussy if a good wrist strap was on it.

[Beachcomber Joe]

Back when I shot weddings I wouldn't use a strap. One camera/flash rig was always in hand and the other body and lenses would be in a quick access shoulder bag - first a no-name, then an early Domke, and ultimately in the Tamracs I still use. These days I'm shooting strictly for my personal pleasure. I'll use a strap maybe 50% of the time.

[Headshotzx]

From the time I picked up my camera, my strap has always been a shoulder strap and never a neck strap. And from the time I started using hand straps (Canon E1), i stopped using straps altogether unless I used the Rstrap. There are times when the hand strap won't do well, like when the environment smells (think barbecue) or when you know you're gonna get soaked with water/rain.

[jdang307]

From the time I picked up my camera, my strap has always been a shoulder strap and never a neck strap. And from the time I started using hand straps (Canon E1), i stopped using straps altogether unless I used the Rstrap. There are times when the hand strap won't do well, like when the environment smells (think barbecue) or when you know you're gonna get soaked with water/rain.

You use the E1 on your larger cam just fine? I noticed it says for Rebel series, And just want to make sure it's capable of carrying a bigger cam.

EDIT: nm, i think all these things require a battery grip right,

[Headshotzx]

The Canon E1 requires a battery grip, 1 series, or a quick release plate that has lugs at the sides like a Markins, Kirk or RRS plate.

[NYC2SOCAL]

Realized, based on my "style", I didn't use the neck strap and it just "got in the way".. Moved to a handstrap and could not be happier.. :)

[ssnxp]

I use a camdapter handstrap. Haven't gone back to a neckstrap since.

[Shockey]

Yeah I hardly ever use one.
I have a holster on my belt with my other camera setup, I have one in my hand that I am using and the other goes in the holster.

[Lyndon Chen]

When I use "neck" straps I just throw them over one shoulder. Works for me. I recently tested the Spider holster at wedding; gotta say, I'm liking it. I'm going to get another holster for the other cam and go strapless.

[friz]

Strapless here

[Mark1]

I had my last camera about 3 months before I even took the strap out of the plastic. I only have the strap on when I will be out all day with only the camera and 1 lens. Such as theme parks...etc...etc and may need my hands for something. If I bring more than that I use my small backpack, and leave the strap at home. When taking the whole kit... It goes in the big bag....and the strap still stays at home. It is very rare for me to have the strap on the camera. They cause more problems than worth the "safety" they provide.

[Josh_30]

I love my R-strap. I used a quick release neckstrap on the 40D for the longest time, but when I saw the R-strap, I knew I had to have one. Expensive, but worth it IMO.

[binlerne]

I use it as I like free hands, but I don't like having to put the camera in its bag and taking it back out. But I do hate it hanging down, so when I take it off my shoulder to shoot, I grab the strap in a certain spot and wrap it around my hand/wrist. Doing this lets me grab the camera while having the strap wrapped around my wrist and not dangling.

[rdalrt]

R-straps for me. RS-4 and DR-1. Love em.

I can't stand the regular old neck strap.

[reddyroc007]

when i use my shoulder strap i wear it cross the chest style. i was out with another photog a few weeks back and he would wrap it around his hand and i've been doing that quite a bit lately too. I do have moments when i find the strap cumbersome so i know how the OP feels but for my baby's safety it is required to be there. i have been thinking about getting a longer strap however.

[xMClass]

I have quick releases on mine. I unhook the strap when I don't need it and leave it in the bag.

[Mark1]

Ordered one of these yesterday.... We'll see how it works out....
http://www.adorama.com/CZPOP9.html
http://bgrip.com/

[fotoworx]

Without a strap....one day you''ll watch it tumble to the ground.

[PrimeGlass]

I use a handstrap and sometimes my Blackrapid as well

[Jethro790]

Actually, I use my 50D 99% of the time while my husband hogs his 7D :rolleyes: and I've found that the grip makes my camera too big for my hands with the grip on it, not to mention incredibly heavy coupled with my 70-200mm...meaning I'll probably have a grip for sale soon! How does this hand grip work wihtout a grip? Or, another thought, could it make my grip feel better in my hands or is that something that won't change unless my hand size does?;)

I have no love for grips on the prosumer bodys such as my 7D, but I love to use an E1 handgrip. I got a RRS L bracket which allows me to use one without a grip. It's also great for the tripod.

[johnlo]

always hate the neck strap... pretty much I do not use it. and this goes way back in the film days when I was shooting w/ the AE model.

just a little over a month, i decided to try out the R-Strap... and it was only because I need my hands available when I was walking around w/ my 2 yr old in the park w/ my camera.

Now I LOVE the R-Strap.

[bulldogg7]

anyone do a mod, kind of a hybrid between r-strap and the factory strap? Hooked to factory location on the left and the tripod socket on the right? Just been thinking of this lately when I tried to shoot portrait and sometimes have to fight the strap.

[Jon]

I juggle (almost literally) 2 cameras when I'm out. Without the neckstraps, I'd be slowed down when I couldn't afford to be. Handstraps or strapless carriers like the Cotton Carrier just won't cut it.

[peterlcole]

Without a strap....one day you''ll watch it tumble to the ground.

On the upside, you'll have a good excuse to buy that new body you've been lusting after.

[felixapproach]

Without a strap....one day you''ll watch it tumble to the ground.


Thats what happened to me. Luckily I was shooting a gymnastic meet and standing on a large foam mat at the time. Now I always use a neckstrap.

[Cotmweasel]

I actually just got my R-Strap in today (RS-7). (yesterday now I guess, got it 3/19). after wearing it all day, it's everything I was hoping it would be. I am in love with it! :D

[Michelle Brooks Photography]

Ordered one of these yesterday.... We'll see how it works out....
http://www.adorama.com/CZPOP9.html
http://bgrip.com/
Let us know how you like it!

[Michelle Brooks Photography]

So glad I started this thread I never knew I'd get so much input! I am definitely going to research some of the alternatives that have been posted here.

[Jon]

On the upside, you'll have a good excuse to buy that new body you've been lusting after.
You need an excuse?

[RDKirk]

I shot PJ back in the days when zooms were lousy and every serious PJ shot with at least two cameras on his neck and shoulders with different primes on each camera. We "zoomed" by dropping one camera and grabbing the other. Straps, straps, straps.

I always have a strap on my cameras, and every time I pick one up for any reason, I'll loop the strap over my wrist. That even included my Mamiya RZ67 cameras, even though I mostly used them on tripods. When I attach a camera to a tripod, I will have the strap looped over my wrist until the quick-release is firmly attached (and I've checked it).

If I'm going to back up my cameras, why would I not back up my butter fingers?

[Heath]

I tried using a neck strap, wrist strap and a cotton carrier. I kept avoiding the R-strp thinking that there was no way I was going to like it.

Now I cannot figure out why I waited so long.

My biggest problem now is that I have to adjust the length of the strap if I have the strap attached to the lens tripod mount instead of the body tripod mount.

[RPCrowe]

I always carry two cameras and use the OPTECH Dual harness which distributes the weight over both shoulders and positions the cameras at my sides ready to pick up and shoot. This strap is pretty efficient and doesn't cost a king's ransom.

http://optechusa.com/product/detail/?PRODUCT_ID=87

I have added a pair of carabiners, one to each side adjustment strap of my photo vest. I clip the carabiner onto the camera straps to prevent the cameras from swinging when I am running or traveling fast. If I am not wearing my photo vest, I clip the carabiners to the side belt loops of my trousers. If I need more protection for the cameras, I wear them under my vest or a jacket if I am wearing one.

[John the Geek]

I use my tripod for Macro quite a lot, and the neck strap got in the way too much. I ditched it for a hand strap and i love it. Snug against my hand, it's great.

Only had a little trouble adapting between them. Almost let the camera go while swapping lenses, no strap to hold it anymore, and I almost dropped it. Learnt not to do that real quick.

=)

[Wilt]

Mine is used only as a 'shoulder' strap, when idle. When I am actively using the camera, the strap is looped once around the forearm of the right hand. Been that way for years, for me.

The exception to that is carrying two actively used bodies...one on each shoulder and the active one is brought up to the eye. The two-shouldered approach is how I can deal with keeping the two bodies from colliding with each other, if both are idle for a bit. If I have to run somewhere to take a shot, one hand grabs both straps and collects them at my chest, while the elbows keep the two bodies to the sides.

[friz]

Without a strap....one day you''ll watch it tumble to the ground.

My experience is just the opposite. With a strap...one day you'll watch something catch it and drag it to the ground. Every camera "disaster" of mine has been caused by the strap catching on something, or swinging from my neck and hitting something. Now it's in the bag on the tripod or in my hand.

[cristphoto]

Just drop a camera one time and then ask that question. If the strap isn't around my neck it's wrapped around my wrist so if the camera slips from my hand - no damage. I even put the strap around my neck when walking with the camera tripod mounted. Again no problems if the mounting plate somehow comes loose from the tripod.

[Jon]

Camera's out of the bag, strap's around my neck. I'm notr using the camera, it's back in the bag. Situations like this excepted:

http://jonbarrettphoto.smugmug.com/photos/701078427_K9R88-XL.jpg

Gear belongs to me, Woolburr, mtnphotographer, gfiorillo and ISO Boz

[anhtimmy]

Camera's out of the bag, strap's around my neck. I'm notr using the camera, it's back in the bag. Situations like this excepted:

http://jonbarrettphoto.smugmug.com/photos/701078427_K9R88-XL.jpg

Gear belongs to me, Woolburr, mtnphotographer, gfiorillo and ISO Boz

drools @_@



I use a combo of E-1 hand grip and R-strap

[Jon]

drools @_@



I use a combo of E-1 hand grip and R-strap

Yeah, we needed a group photo. Off the top of my head, two DRsomethings, a 5D, a1D3, an SX1m, an A630 and (not shown) another DRsomething and an SX110. A 17-85, a 24-70, a 70-200 2.8 IS and 2x 100 m macros.

[advaitin]

Currently, I use UpStraps. Their new quicklock system allows me to switch the strap from camera body to long lens in a second. It doesn't matter which side of the rubber pad is up, it grips the same--like glue. Hangs on the shoulder and doesn't slip. How good is it, it's available through the online store for the National Press Photographers Association.

Since I am a belt and suspenders kind of guy, I also have an E-1 handstrap on all my cameras. Generally as I raise a camera up I twist the strap around whichever arm it is next to and use it to brace for the shot--my right hand in the E-1. I can't remember ever having a strap fall in front of my lens.

The one exception is when I take a camera somewhere that is known for thievery, then I fit the camera I take with a PacSafe strap that has cut-proof wires through it.

Wish I could say that all that precaution has kept me from dropping a camera but, sad to say, in 42 years of shooting I've dropped a camera four times. Once in 1968, twice in 2007 and once a couple of weeks ago. Carelessness on my part everytime.

[RDKirk]

Wish I could say that all that precaution has kept me from dropping a camera but, sad to say, in 42 years of shooting I've dropped a camera four times. Once in 1968, twice in 2007 and once a couple of weeks ago. Carelessness on my part everytime.

Seems to be advancing with age. :)

[advaitin]

Seems to be advancing with age. :)

You bet! The two in '07 were tripping on uneven pavement in Europe and the camera hitting the concrete as a result of my falling--the strap working as a sling to increase the momentum of the camera.

This last one was a first. A couple of times in the past I've had a lens on a camera that I didn't firmly lock in place and the lens would suddenly pop off at an inconvenient time or place. But this time I had the camera mounted on a long lens and the lens was strapped and around my neck--the camera had not been locked into place, or I had inadvertently pushed the release button--not sure which--and off comes the camera falling to the concrete. That's another thing--why does it always happen over concrete?

The other thing is that my incidents have proved to me that camera equipment is usually pretty tough. My 7D has a little scrape mark but otherwise continues to work as before. The plastic XTi kept clicking in '07 and the one in 1968--that was a Hasselblad. The magazine popped off the body, as did the lens, but all continued to work just fine. Heck, that 'Blad is probably still working somewhere today. I should add that in recent years I put Kirk or RRS L-backets on all my cameras and it seems to help rebuff hard knocks.

[oRGie]

I replaced the canon strap with an optech pro, most of the time I unclip the neoprene neck bit and attach the 2 short bits together, handy for holding, wrapping round wrist and when in a crowd I use a velcro wristband and feed the shortened strap through that for security.

If I am hanging around casually taking pics I put the neoprene part back on and hang it round my neck or off my shoulder. When I am out walking (cant really call my strolling hiking, but that sort of thing, or on my mountain bike) I take the neoprene neck bit off again, attach the small straps and carry the camera in a lowpro slingshot (100 or 200 depending how much kit I want with me) and just take the cam out to use it and put it back if walking on or riding on sort of thing..

[Abyssgh0st]

Currently I don't use a strap on my gripped 50D.. I'd prefer to, but the Canon one is just too damn uncomfortable and seems to be always getting in the way. Any suggestions?

[RDKirk]

Currently I don't use a strap on my gripped 50D.. I'd prefer to, but the Canon one is just too damn uncomfortable and seems to be always getting in the way. Any suggestions?

Different strap.

[HighSnobility]

Just using my E1 hand strap at the moment :D

[Mark1]

Currently I don't use a strap on my gripped 50D.. I'd prefer to, but the Canon one is just too damn uncomfortable and seems to be always getting in the way. Any suggestions?

The rare times I do have one on I put on the free strap that SmugMug was giving away. IT is pretty comfortable. And is long enough to wear like a R strap.

[collierportraits]

19 year pro. Have never used a neckstrap for all the reasons you mentioned. In fact, I can't seem to understand why anyone likes 'em? But, each to their own I suppose... ;)

To me, they're bulky, clunky, in the way and frankly as dangerous to the camera as they are safe. How many times have you (or someone you know) snagged a strap and the camera get drug along with it. Off the table, etc. and bang! Because of the very strap meant to 'save' it.

So for me, I do like the E-1 handstraps and I have never, to my knowledge, dropped a camera. (Drop my p&s's all the time, though, but never a professional camera) So, yeah. You're not alone.

Anyone want to buy some Canon neckstraps? :D

[ticklemestephen]

i like to just grip mine

[ozadam]

my neck strap is usually just wrapped around my hand

[S2K.OGRAPHY]

i take it off when im using a tripod and its windy, but other than that, i keep it on

[Simon_Gardner]

I absolutely HATE camera straps and almost never used them. I find them a b****y nuisance. I do maybe ⅔ of my SLR photography on a tripod where the strap is a pain in the arse. My pocket camera goes in - a pocket.

Obviously anything that uses the tripod socket [R-strap] is a no-no and anyway mine virtually always has a tripod Q/D plate permanently screwed in.

I just took delivery of my new 7D and I’ve reluctantly put a strap on but I don’t think it’s going to stay there long.

I used to (well still have) a camera strap which Q/D-ed straight onto my wet-film-camera F1N etc lugs. My ideal for any camera strap is just that with these newer-style strap flatter fixings - ie some sort of QD so the entire business comes right off simply (no tail, no nothing) - in which case I might just use one.

[Michelle Brooks Photography]

Do you say R straps (or others that use the tripod socket) are a no-no b/c you use the tripod so much, or is there another reason?

I absolutely HATE camera straps and almost never used them. I find them a b****y nuisance. I do maybe ⅔ of my SLR photography on a tripod where the strap is a pain in the arse. My pocket camera goes in - a pocket.

Obviously anything that uses the tripod socket [R-strap] is a no-no and anyway mine virtually always has a tripod Q/D plate permanently screwed in.

I just took delivery of my new 7D and I’ve reluctantly put a strap on but I don’t think it’s going to stay there long.

I used to (well still have) a camera strap which Q/D-ed straight onto my wet-film-camera F1N etc lugs. My ideal for any camera strap is just that with these newer-style strap flatter fixings - ie some sort of QD so the entire business comes right off simply (no tail, no nothing) - in which case I might just use one.

[Simon_Gardner]

Do you say R straps (or others that use the tripod socket) are a no-no b/c you use the tripod so much, or is there another reason?

Anything that uses the tripod socket is no good; that’s permanently occupied on all my cameras [and long telephotos] with a Gitzo Q/R plate screwed in. Anything that doesn’t come right off quickly (all of it - no tail to get in the way) is also a pain in the arse.

Such straps used to exist. Do they still?

[advaitin]

Do you say R straps (or others that use the tripod socket) are a no-no b/c you use the tripod so much, or is there another reason?

He has a good point. Even with nylock releases, the "tails" as he called them are a nuisance if you do a lot of tripod work. The biggest problem working with tripods or monopods is what to do with the strap. Which is why I detach them and I keep the ends attached to the camera as short as possible.

If the wind is whipping up and you have something dangling, it can interfere with getting a vibration free image.

[S2K.OGRAPHY]

He has a good point. Even with nylock releases, the "tails" as he called them are a nuisance if you do a lot of tripod work. The biggest problem working with tripods or monopods is what to do with the strap. Which is why I detach them and I keep the ends attached to the camera as short as possible.

If the wind is whipping up and you have something dangling, it can interfere with getting a vibration free image.

yep just dealt with this yesterday. then you have to stand on the side of the road raging while you try to get the stupid straps off

[RDKirk]

The biggest problem working with tripods or monopods is what to do with the strap.

Really? I think the biggest problem working with tripods is hauling them. Straps don't cause me any problem, except for removing the possibility of an accident while I'm fixing the camera to the tripod.

I guess it all really boils down to which element of the process you worry more about.

[RDKirk]

If the wind is whipping up and you have something dangling, it can interfere with getting a vibration free image.

You need a bigger tripod. Or a bigger camera. Or both. The strap on my Mamiya RZ67 mounted on my Manfroto 3046 never gives me such a problem.

[Simon_Gardner]

Mostly I use Benbo tripods which are built like a tank. I only really use my carbon fibre trad-design tripod for mounting my bird-spotting scope.

I’m thoroughly used to a camera with no bits on it and I don’t think I’m going to be adjusting to a strap any time soon. I have used holsters and I use a back pack a lot but my main camera tends to be ‘in the hand’ when it’s at all likely I’m going to use it. So far I haven’t dropped one. :mrgreen:

[ALT1MATE]

I love my R-strap.

[Simon_Gardner]

Well the f****** strap on my 7D lasted 5 days. Must be some kind of record for me. It’s off and it’s staying off.

[Simon_Gardner]

I absolutely HATE camera straps and almost never used them. I find them a b****y nuisance. I do maybe ⅔ of my SLR photography on a tripod where the strap is a pain in the arse. My pocket camera goes in - a pocket...

...I used to (well still have) a camera strap which Q/D-ed straight onto my wet-film-camera F1N etc lugs. My ideal for any camera strap is just that with these newer-style strap flatter fixings - ie some sort of QD so the entire business comes right off simply (no tail, no nothing) - in which case I might just use one.

And I finally got round to finding it - here with an F1N.

http://******/dsSmY

[lannes]

He has a good point. Even with nylock releases, the "tails" as he called them are a nuisance if you do a lot of tripod work. The biggest problem working with tripods or monopods is what to do with the strap. Which is why I detach them and I keep the ends attached to the camera as short as possible.

If the wind is whipping up and you have something dangling, it can interfere with getting a vibration free image.

You need one or two of these to hook up your floating nylock releases to.

http://www.upstrap-pro.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=LOOP-QR

[Simon_Gardner]

You one or two of these to hook up your floating nylock releases to.

http://www.upstrap-pro.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=LOOP-QR

Wrong. I don’t want the floating releases at all. Bloody nuisance.

http://******/dsUOd

[bulldogg7]

Currently I don't use a strap on my gripped 50D.. I'd prefer to, but the Canon one is just too damn uncomfortable and seems to be always getting in the way. Any suggestions?

Had a couple of people ask me about my strap. I hate the short factory straps.
I found a dog leash the same width and material as the Canon strap and extended my strap so I could sling cross shouldered and have it at arms length.
http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx282/bulldogg777/otherdiystuff/IMG_2381.jpg

Still connected to only the left mount to keep it out of the way when shooting. I hate when the strap covers the viewfinder and/or buttons when shooting in portrait.
http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx282/bulldogg777/otherdiystuff/IMG_2378.jpg

After adjusting to where I liked it and trying it out, I cut the ends of the leash. To make it a little more secure and keep the ends from snagging on clothing I sewed the ends flat where the 2 straps cross.
http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx282/bulldogg777/otherdiystuff/IMG_2379.jpg

As an extra bonus, I had a nice cushy pad from a Sams-Club cooler bag lying around, black and silver matched pretty well. Made carrying the camera around a lot more comfortable,.
http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx282/bulldogg777/otherdiystuff/IMG_2380.jpg

Now the camera hangs just below waist level, right at arms length. My hand is right at the grip and I don't have to worry about the strap blocking the viewfinder or any buttons.

[friz]

Strapless here.

[itsmejson]

I'm planning on getting the canon hand strap thanks to you guys;)
I have an xs w/ 15-85mm and I find it front heavy and it strains my hand from holding it.

I want to get the RS-7 however I don't know if there is a solution to use it with a QR plate.
this is the plate i'm going to be using:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6Mf24FwoyLQ/Sa00ZfjMajI/AAAAAAAAAL0/eIyapZ8AP6Y/s1600-h/pc-52up2+photoclam+plate+arca.jpg

[TeamSpeed]

Hand straps for me all the time, being around kids of all ages on bleachers, etc, I want to know exactly where the camera is and that it won't go flying because Bobby saw the love of his life come through the back door, and he takes off at full speed past my gear and slingshots it into the concrete block wall. :)

[friz]

Hand straps for me all the time, being around kids of all ages on bleachers, etc, I want to know exactly where the camera is and that it won't go flying because Bobby saw the love of his life come through the back door, and he takes off at full speed past my gear and slingshots it into the concrete block wall. :)

Even before handstaps, I gave up on neck straps. I have seen to many camera tragedies unfold the way you describe. Camera is in hand or in bag. Not doing a trapeze act from my neck or setting on a table with the strap hanging over the edge waiting for something to snag it. My favorite is the camera hand off when the strap snags the givers hand just long enough to pull the camera from the receivers hand and both watch the camera fall to the pavement. Priceless!

[itsmejson]

man just saw this on youtube!

this guy has a strap hahah didn't help him out though :/ poor guy thats a lot of gear money
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbxtfeaEthw

[kingdavidd]

saw the black rapid r-strap in an a camera store expo a few back, immediately bought one, so much better compared to neck strap...

i'm looking for a wrist strap to complement my r-strap... any ideas/suggestions?

[itsmejson]

saw the black rapid r-strap in an a camera store expo a few back, immediately bought one, so much better compared to neck strap...

i'm looking for a wrist strap to complement my r-strap... any ideas/suggestions?

do you use a QR plate on? I am trying to find a way to have both the ability to use a r strap and a QR plate because I do not want to go with a luma loop.

[jsimbol]

man just saw this on youtube!

this guy has a strap hahah didn't help him out though :/ poor guy thats a lot of gear money
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbxtfeaEthw

If you look closely at the end of the video, even the flower girl knew the severity of the situation.

[itsmejson]

If you look closely at the end of the video, even the flower girl knew the severity of the situation.

yeah i know! hands on her head and all. when he first fell in the water to the guy from the left immediately tries to grab the camera from his wet hand before helping him up lol.

[kingdavidd]

@itsmejson

unfortunately, my QR plate does not work with the R2 of the r-strap :O(

i did find a manfrotto QR plate in my local camera store that would fit the R2, but i could remember the model

check this post out for an alternative
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=898953

edit:
it looks very similar to this:
http://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-200PL-14-Connect-Mounting-4-Inch/dp/B001A1RMXG

you can insert the r2 in the QR plate lock

[itsmejson]

@itsmejson

unfortunately, my QR plate does not work with the R2 of the r-strap :O(

i did find a manfrotto QR plate in my local camera store that would fit the R2, but i could remember the model

check this post out for an alternative
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=898953

edit:
it looks very similar to this:
http://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-200PL-14-Connect-Mounting-4-Inch/dp/B001A1RMXG

you can insert the r2 in the QR plate lock

yeah I have already seen that. that setup looks too sketchy to me lol.

anyone know if getting this d ring screw or BR's FastenR-2 would work to screw onto a QR plate?
http://www.seemyperformance.com/img/v1/p23337853.jpg

[ninhja]

Strapless. The factory strap is uncomfortable and just gets in the way. I'd like to try the Luma Loop or R-Strap someday though.

[mhazlett]

I don't use any strap on my camera. It is normally on a tripod, but when its not I just carry it. Straps are to annoying for me, and have only seemed to be more of a bother than any help imo.

[kingdavidd]

Ordered one of these yesterday.... We'll see how it works out....
http://www.adorama.com/CZPOP9.html
http://bgrip.com/

this looks really intriguing....

[kingdavidd]

yeah I have already seen that. that setup looks too sketchy to me lol.

anyone know if getting this d ring screw or BR's FastenR-2 would work to screw onto a QR plate?
http://www.seemyperformance.com/img/v1/p23337853.jpg

the connectR2 will fit in the D-ring

[itsmejson]

the connectR2 will fit in the D-ring

but once the r2 is connected to that QR plate will I be able to attach it to a tripod without having to remove it.

[midnight_rider]

do you use a QR plate on? I am trying to find a way to have both the ability to use a r strap and a QR plate because I do not want to go with a luma loop.


I have a Manfrotto QR plate on my camera and I use a a blackrapid strap. I love the combo. Nothing around my neck and I can have my camera off of me any on a tripod in seconds.

[kinghong1970]

i have both LL and BR strap... i use my LL as it seems better for my needs... a bit better designed imo.

[tonywah]

I use a a blackrapid strap and hand strip, like them.

[Jannie]

I don't dare take the strap off even though it sometimes is in the way. I had one of those POTN straps with the release clasps and I disconnected the strap when using the camera on a tripod. Later in the day, being very tired, I had taken the camera off the tripod for some reason ad as I went to grab some other piece of gear, I started to let go of the camera. I didn't think about it, it just happened, I've never not had a strap for a camera and I've always put it around my neck, it's like having a third hand, especially when you're rigging hour own lighting. Well I fumbled but I caught the camera in tim. I never used that kind of strap again, I got a lightweight UPSTRAP and learned to carry the camera on my shoulder.

[lannes]

but once the r2 is connected to that QR plate will I be able to attach it to a tripod without having to remove it.

You won't be able to attach the qr to the tripod as the Connect2-R will get in the way, for it to work the d-link will need to lie flat.

Not too bad for a sketchy solution:lol:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j226/lannes2007/IMG_8820.jpg

[itsmejson]

I have a Manfrotto QR plate on my camera and I use a a blackrapid strap. I love the combo. Nothing around my neck and I can have my camera off of me any on a tripod in seconds.

great would you mind posting up some pictures either here or in a pm to me I would really appreciate it

You won't be able to attach the qr to the tripod as the Connect2-R will get in the way, for it to work the d-link will need to lie flat.

Not too bad for a sketchy solution:lol:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j226/lannes2007/IMG_8820.jpg

haha I saw another thread with this same setup it does seem really sketchy but it solves the problem haha thanks for posting this.

[lannes]

haha I saw another thread with this same setup it does seem really sketchy but it solves the problem haha thanks for posting this.

The only other solution it to use the other camera body mounting lugs and connect the black rapid to these points via a lanyard (a-la Luma loop).

[JimmyJam]

I noticed watching Art Wolfe's program on the local PBS station that he never uses a strap-he's hanging out of canoes and planes and stuff, talking about how marvelous Iceland or West Africa or the Australian outback is..and swinging his camera around in one hand like it's a $10 instamatic. :)

[OneMac]

I tend not to use a neck strap since I broke my neck... :lol:

Seriously, a neck strap just causes pain so I bought the BR DR-1 double strap. I use it when I need to haul the cameras around otherwise it's just the hand straps.

Al

[midnight_rider]

great would you mind posting up some pictures either here or in a pm to me I would really appreciate it



.


Here is a quick Iphone shothttp://www.kirkscaptures.com/photos/940312046_QBPQJ-M.jpg

I purchased the Black Rapid system a while back when they had problems with the D rings coming apart. I had a ring drop a camera of mine and I never trusted them again. I will say that the new ones look a lot better but I love being able to go from side to tripod in a second. This Dring lifts up and folds down. It came on the QR plate so there is no altering to make it work. You just need to have a Manfrotto head on your mono or tripod.
The heaviest rig I have had on here is a 1D2, 100-400 and 430ex. I never felt like it was going to give out.

Here is the plate (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554154-REG/Manfrotto_200PL_14_200PL_14_Rectangular_Quick_Rele ase.html).

It fits any manfrotto head that takes the "RC2" plate

[MOkoFOko]

I hate my straps--they're constantly getting in my way or taking up essential room my bags. Regardless, I always keep one on... I tried using my DSLR without for a period, and it felt too naked. I was constantly worried about dropping it.

[itsmejson]

Here is a quick Iphone shothttp://www.kirkscaptures.com/photos/940312046_QBPQJ-M.jpg

I purchased the Black Rapid system a while back when they had problems with the D rings coming apart. I had a ring drop a camera of mine and I never trusted them again. I will say that the new ones look a lot better but I love being able to go from side to tripod in a second. This Dring lifts up and folds down. It came on the QR plate so there is no altering to make it work. You just need to have a Manfrotto head on your mono or tripod.
The heaviest rig I have had on here is a 1D2, 100-400 and 430ex. I never felt like it was going to give out.

Here is the plate (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554154-REG/Manfrotto_200PL_14_200PL_14_Rectangular_Quick_Rele ase.html).

It fits any manfrotto head that takes the "RC2" plate

Awesome thanks for this. do you know if its possible to remove this d ring screw from the plate?

[Radders]

Never once put my neck strap around me, Always wrap it around my wrist - also a good way to stop someone taking it from my hand. It's tight and comfy.

[midnight_rider]

Awesome thanks for this. do you know if its possible to remove this d ring screw from the plate?
It is not designed to be removed. You need it to tighten and remove the plate. It folds out of the way firmly though. It in no way hinders operation.

[itsmejson]

It is not designed to be removed. You need it to tighten and remove the plate. It folds out of the way firmly though. It in no way hinders operation.

yes I know it is needed to tighten and remove the plate. what i'm trying to get at is if its possible to remove the d ring screw to use with another QR plate. its main purpose would be to use the screw on a QR plate for a specific ballhead and use the BRstrap with it. lol hope that makes sense

[midnight_rider]

yes I know it is needed to tighten and remove the plate. what i'm trying to get at is if its possible to remove the d ring screw to use with another QR plate. its main purpose would be to use the screw on a QR plate for a specific ballhead and use the BRstrap with it. lol hope that makes sense

Okay, I'm with you now. I will take a close look tomorrow. I believe that is possible but I will make sure.

[itsmejson]

Okay, I'm with you now. I will take a close look tomorrow. I believe that is possible but I will make sure.

great ;) thanks for your time midnight

[lannes]

I think you'll find that the d-ring screw, might be held in place with a c-clip

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j226/lannes2007/IMG_8841_cr.jpg

[xcel730]

I'm a bit mixed regarding straps or strapless. When I'm walking around, the straps come in handy. I wear the straps across my body and it's much more comfortable than putting it on your neck. However, when I'm actually shooting, I find the straps to be cumbersome, especially when using a tripod.

I've tried a small handful of straps, but ended up with this combination:

(1) Crumpler Industry Disgrace (http://www.amazon.com/Crumpler-The-Industry-Disgrace-Brown/dp/B001JQ4QCW/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1279894364&sr=1-2) - Very comfortable strap for me

(2) Op/Tech Utility Loop (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images345x345/424537.jpg) - I loop this around the camera anchor where you would normally loop your neck strap

(3) Op/Tech Swivel Hooks (http://www.duracomsupply.com/servlet/the-89/Optech-Strap-System-Swivel/Detail) - I cut the swivel hooks from these straps and attached it my Crumpler neck strap

What I end up having is a comfortable neck strap that I could easily remove when I'm shooting :)

[JJD.Photography]

Removed mine and now use the Cotton Carrier system to hold my cameras!

[breal101]

The majority of the time I go strapless, they're are a total pain when using a tripod. If I have to walk around a lot I use a strap. The problem I see is the design of the lugs on the camera body. The Hasselblad design is far better, you can remove the strap easily without any dangly parts remaining on the camera.

[itsmejson]

The majority of the time I go strapless, they're are a total pain when using a tripod. If I have to walk around a lot I use a strap. The problem I see is the design of the lugs on the camera body. The Hasselblad design is far better, you can remove the strap easily without any dangly parts remaining on the camera.

hasselblad? do yo have a picture of it

[seabee_shooter]

I only keep it so that I can say "all original contents included" if/when I sell my camera body. I prefer the wrist straps myself.

[breal101]

hasselblad? do yo have a picture of it

Yes, somewhere I have some from when I sold them. I'm too lazy to look so here's a link.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hasselblad-500CM-500-C-M-Camera-80mm-CF-Lens-A12-Set-/380253078525?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item5888d983fd#ht_6866wt_1066

It's the round protrusion behind the winder. The strap ends fit over the lug and with a press they remove completely. They are very secure when attached.

[robfoto]

I use a CottonCarrier hand-strap, no neck strap.

http://robfoto.smugmug.com/photos/944768991_8AiKy-S.jpg

[Buckieh]

Until I actually see a Pro using one, I will consider all harnesses geeky ;-)


Maybe it's because "pros" can afford buying a new camera and lens when they drop theirs on the ground/ in water.

[midnight_rider]

I think you'll find that the d-ring screw, might be held in place with a c-clip

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j226/lannes2007/IMG_8841_cr.jpg

Exactly :D

[itsmejson]

Exactly :D

great i'm guess i'm going to purchase one of these qr plates to take out the screw and try to install it on the photoclam QR plate that i'm getting to solve my problem of using the qr plate at the same time as using the r-strap.

Midnight - do you know if the screw is is flat on the underside of the d ring head? example below:
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o200/agula001/Misc/screw.jpg

[mikekelley]

I use this:

http://www.adorama.com/CAPNS1.html

and just unclip the strap when I don't want it. they're not shown in the pic but there are a couple of clicky things at the base of each side of the strap which just pop off.

best of both worlds

[midnight_rider]

great i'm guess i'm going to purchase one of these qr plates to take out the screw and try to install it on the photoclam QR plate that i'm getting to solve my problem of using the qr plate at the same time as using the r-strap.

Midnight - do you know if the screw is is flat on the underside of the d ring head? example below:
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o200/agula001/Misc/screw.jpg

The Manfrotto does not have any rise at all. It is perfectly flat. It comes off very easy too.

[lannes]

great i'm guess i'm going to purchase one of these qr plates to take out the screw and try to install it on the photoclam QR plate that i'm getting to solve my problem of using the qr plate at the same time as using the r-strap.
[/IMG]

Quite a few posters use this method to solve the problem.

If you have a arca-swiss compatible QR plate you can just use something like this QR clamp
and screw the FastenR-3 or 2 into it from underneath. Then clip the QR clamp onto the tripod plate.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j226/lannes2007/QR-48s-photoproshop_cr.jpg

It's a bit of extra hardware, but if you choose a small 20-40mm QR clamp it's not to cumbersome.
This works unless you want the strap connected at all times

[itsmejson]

The Manfrotto does not have any rise at all. It is perfectly flat. It comes off very easy too.

great that is very good news;)

Quite a few posters use this method to solve the problem.

If you have a arca-swiss compatible QR plate you can just use something like this QR clamp
and screw the FastenR-3 or 2 into it from underneath. Then clip the QR clamp onto the tripod plate.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j226/lannes2007/QR-48s-photoproshop_cr.jpg

It's a bit of extra hardware, but if you choose a small 20-40mm QR clamp it's not to cumbersome.
This works unless you want the strap connected at all times

yeah i saw that. i don't want the strap on all the time however i just dont want to have to keep switching between using a tripod plate and BR's fastnr's.

this is the ballhead i'll be getting:
http://shashinki.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/kkk_7353.JPG

[lannes]

yeah i saw that. i don't want the strap on all the time however i just dont want to have to keep switching between using a tripod plate and BR's fastnr's.[/IMG]

If your getting the Photo Clam PC-30NS, then I'm pretty sure it's a arca-swiss compatible QR plate, so the QR clamp option will work.

[keitaro]

There are times when I wish that I didn't have my strap installed, and then there are times where I am happy that I have my strap installed.

Just a couple weeks ago, a few friends and I went out shooting. One friend has a handstrap, while the other friend and I used our OEM Canon neckstrap. By the end of the photowalk, my friend and I who used the neckstrap felt comfortable all around, while the friend with the handstrap started getting hand cramps.

I think the best way to get the best of both worlds, is to use a neck strap with quick releases.

[mwalsh9152]

I recently switched to a neckstrap with quick release, mainly for tripod shooting when its windy. Otherwise it is always on the camera, whenever Im moving about with my camera on the tripod, I always grab the strap and legs together being paranoid that the camera might come off. I'm sure that as I use it more I will loose the paranoia and start to trust my ballhead more

[itsmejson]

I recently switched to a neckstrap with quick release, mainly for tripod shooting when its windy. Otherwise it is always on the camera, whenever Im moving about with my camera on the tripod, I always grab the strap and legs together being paranoid that the camera might come off. I'm sure that as I use it more I will loose the paranoia and start to trust my ballhead more

which neckstrap did you switch to with the neck strap?