View Full Version : Whats the best source for lessons for newbies?
seiswirth
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 09:36
I bought a Canon Rebel XT to take better photos of my children. They are both in the martial arts and their testings take place indoors with very bad fluorescent lighting. I'm not alowed to use a flash. I'm usually over 20ft. away.
I have ordered a Canon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM Telephoto Zoom Lens but it has not come in yet.
I'm new to this and will admit I'm lost. All my shots are dark and blurry. I want to stop the motion but I still would like bright photos. Am I asking for too much?
Thanks for any help.
Scott
robertwgross
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 09:57
If you have to work in fluorescent light, then you can help out colors by using the correct white balance setting. However, it may still be a little dim. I suggest that you use a faster lens first. Crank up your ISO as high as you can tolerate. If you leave the aperture wide open, that should allow a decent shutter speed, but your depth of field will be narrow. So, if the subjects are closely spaced (front to back), then that ought to work.
---Bob Gross---
seiswirth
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 10:00
Thank you.
Can you reccomend a good place to learn how to do those things?
scott stokes
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 12:46
I would go to my local college,they should have a basic and advanced class.I took both classes and they were 6 weeks long each and only $75 each.
Mohawk
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 12:57
Scott,
Get yourself a FAST lens, like the Canon 50mm f1.4. This will give you equivalant of an 80mm lens on your XT. (Fast = f1.2, f1.4, f2, f2.8 / Slow = f4, f5.6, f6.3) A fast lens lets more light in.
You will also benefit from this particular book:
Understanding Exposure
Revised Edition
by Bryan Peterson
You can get it on amazon.com. This is probably one of the best books out there on photography for a beginer.
Canon also has a web site: http://www.photoworkshop.com/canon/index.html
Lots of info her pertaining to your particular camera.
Mike
Mohawk
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 13:02
And also, that lens you have ordered is a nice lens, but will not help you indoors without some sort of flash. And even then, it may be questionable. But outdoors in good light, it should be fine.
Mike
seiswirth
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 16:30
Thanks, I'll look into getting a fast lens like the Canon 50mm f1.4.
MDJAK
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 17:51
Go to www.epsononlineexperience.com (http://www.epsononlineexperience.com).
For $29 you get six months of downloadable video lessons from the masters ranging from photoshop techniques, tips to photographing street scenes, etc. Best thing I ever did.
tim
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 18:10
I would go to my local college,they should have a basic and advanced class.I took both classes and they were 6 weeks long each and only $75 each.
This is the best suggestion.
Scott,
Get yourself a FAST lens, like the Canon 50mm f1.4. This will give you equivalant of an 80mm lens on your XT. (Fast = f1.2, f1.4, f2, f2.8 / Slow = f4, f5.6, f6.3) A fast lens lets more light in.
You will also benefit from this particular book:
Understanding Exposure
Revised Edition
by Bryan Peterson
You can get it on amazon.com. This is probably one of the best books out there on photography for a beginer.
Canon also has a web site: http://www.photoworkshop.com/canon/index.html
Lots of info her pertaining to your particular camera.
Mike
I suspect the 50mm lens won't be long enough. I'd check out the Sigma 70-200 F2.8 lens. That book's a good suggestion.
CyberDyneSystems
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 18:39
Read ALL the Sticky threads!!! :)
... yep every last stinken one of them..
You'll be quizzed on it all later :lol:
tim
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 18:43
After you understand the theory, the best teacher is practicing in different places, light, times of day, etc. Practice makes perfect, and you can learn a lot by yourself by playing around :)
rklepper
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 19:05
Check out this link:
http://www.morguefile.com/archive/classroom.php
seiswirth
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 19:05
Sooo many sticky threads. I must study. I must study.
rklepper
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 19:41
Someone just posted this in another thread. Looks interesting.
http://www.photoworkshop.com/canon/index.html
prime80
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 23:04
How much can you afford to spend on a good indoor lens? The 85mm f1.8 may be long enough for you since you're dealing with pretty short distances. It's pretty inexpensive, and get's good reviews from the users here.
lostdoggy
10th of July 2005 (Sun), 23:49
Yes faster lens, but not a 50 f/1.4.You wouldn't even come near ough to take good piture of your children. If anything you'll need a 70-200f/2.8L and if you can aford it the one w/ IS. Addon a 1.4X Teleconvertor and you will have an effective focal length of 448mm f/4 (w/TC).
robertwgross
11th of July 2005 (Mon), 00:19
As Tim suggested, practice can make a good teacher. However, some users don't take full advantage of the tools available to them. Shoot RAW files, and then in the RAW-to-TIF converter you can see the full EXIF information on each file, good or bad. For every bad shot, try to determine at least one major factor for why it is bad. It is not sufficient to simply say, "It's too dark." Notice which exposure mode the camera was set for, and then did it pick the shutter and aperture, or did you? Eventually, the mistakes will diminish, and the successes will increase.
Another practice method is to copy somebody else's work. For example, let's say that your favorite subject is horses. Study other horse photos on this forum or elsewhere, and then go out and try to reproduce a similar shot with your local horses. It may take a week's worth of different sunlight conditions, but eventually you will get somewhere.
---Bob Gross---
goatee
11th of July 2005 (Mon), 01:47
This is the most compelling explanation that I have found explaining why you should shoot raw (http://www.photoworkshop.com/canon/lessons/lesson_18.html). This is especially the case if you are shooting in low light conditions, and or, need to adjust the white balance.
blinking8s
11th of July 2005 (Mon), 01:58
Check out this link:
http://www.morguefile.com/archive/classroom.php
yup, thats where i got my camera 101 education!
RafaPolit
11th of July 2005 (Mon), 02:16
You can also check the new http://www.canon.co.jp/Imaging/enjoydslr/index.html which is the new Enjoy! Digital SLR Cameras (http://www.canon.co.jp/Imaging/enjoydslr/index.html) canon site. Havent gone through it yet, as it was offline for a while, but its a start point.
Hope it helps, good luck,
Rafael Polit (jr.)
Quito, Ecuador.
LordSummerisle
11th of July 2005 (Mon), 04:06
I find these quite helpful, mainly for film but the techniques and tutorials are just the same for digital.
http://www.photo.net/learn/
bodyless
11th of July 2005 (Mon), 04:36
Thanks LordSummerisle, very useful tutorials indeed!
seiswirth
11th of July 2005 (Mon), 05:27
I did get the 50 f/1.8. Even if it isn't long enough it will help while I'm learning. And for $70...
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