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jmamer
5th of March 2003 (Wed), 23:53
I just saw the Sandisk 1GB CF cards. They seemed reasonably priced. Has anyone tried them in a D60/D30? I've been running the microdrive, but the
Sandisk card looks like an appealing alternative.
thanks
jm

photography By Evangelos
6th of March 2003 (Thu), 08:16
I have the san Didk Ultra cards and they are very good. They are solid state and have a good transfer rate and are pro level hints the name san "Disk Ultra". Also delikn has a new line of Pro level cards that are fast and not to much on the green $$. The Delkin Pro 640MB card was around $299.00 not bad at all. So San Disk is good an if you buy one you will be very happy. Good luck and have a great day.

sptxs
6th of March 2003 (Thu), 08:47
I have been using a sandisk 512M card for serveral months and have had no problems with it. I am not using the pro version but it seems to write fast enough for my D60. I have shot 3fps bursts and had no problems.

I just ordered the sandisk 1G card the other day. I am hoping it will be here this weekend. If so, I will give you feedback from my weekend shooting.

ngtw16a
10th of March 2003 (Mon), 09:57
They are great.
I actually just ordered a Dexlar 1G 16X card for $230
Faster writing...less power drain...no moving parts..
what's not to like?!

bmccall
10th of March 2003 (Mon), 12:06
Simpletech is running rebates from certain dealers through teh end of March. 512MB for around $100 after $50 rebate, and 1GB for about $200 after $75 rebate. Check this link..
http://www.simpletech.com/Promotions/e2/flashpromo.htm

photography By Evangelos
10th of March 2003 (Mon), 12:21
Mosts of the cards are not as good as the San Disk ultra cards or the Lexar pro or the Delkin pro cards. There is a big difference in the cards when useing them in a camera like the D60 or any pro level Digital SLR. If you are not in need of a pro level card then try out the other brands. Most if not all of my friends who are pro photographers are useing one of the cards listed above.
They are your images you should have the best. There are alot of places to save money and this is not one of them. Stay away form micro Drives big problems with them failing.

robertwgross
10th of March 2003 (Mon), 12:29
Outside of the reliability issues which have been discussed elsewhere, and outside of the _slight_ speed issues which have also been discussed elsewhere, there is NO difference at all between any digital image quality stored on one CF card versus another, despite what other posters have claimed. I just don't know how some people get these stupid opinions!

---Bob Gross---

photography By Evangelos
10th of March 2003 (Mon), 14:02
Bob there is a big difference between solid state and non solid state cards. Also some CF cards do not stack up to the highter end CF cards and thats a fact. Not just my opinion thats a fact. I have used some cheeper cards and they are not all the same in performance or quality. I fill up 6 512MB cards a week and the San Disk ultra cards are the best for me. I had some off brand and had to send it in for recovery and it cost me a alot of $$$ and time. Never Never go the cheep way out in CF memory. I have also never hand any error messages with the San disk ultra cards like I did with the cheeper cards. These are facts and not opinions. Also you can void your warranty with some CF cards. Thats also a fact.

robertwgross
10th of March 2003 (Mon), 14:13
Photography By Evangelos wrote:
Bob there is a big difference between solid state and non solid state cards. Also some CF cards do not stack up to the highter end CF cards and thats a fact. Not just my opinion thats a fact. I have used some cheeper cards and they are not all the same in performance or quality. I fill up 6 512MB cards a week and the San Disk ultra cards are the best for me. I had some off brand and had to send it in for recovery and it cost me a alot of $$$ and time. Never Never go the cheep way out in CF memory. I have also never hand any error messages with the San disk ultra cards like I did with the cheeper cards. These are facts and not opinions. Also you can void your warranty with some CF cards. Thats also a fact.

In a word... hogwash.

You stated a lot of opinions as if they were facts, and they simply are not factual.

If you re-read my posting, I was referring to things other than reliability issues and other than slight speed issues.

I stated that there is simply NO difference in stored digital image quality between different CF cards. None.

The stupid CF card does not know anything about image quality, nor could it care. All it can know is a one or a zero. I defy you to prove otherwise.

So, please don't confuse non-technical types with hogwash.

---Bob Gross---

Dans_D60
10th of March 2003 (Mon), 14:46
robertwgross wrote:
Photography By Evangelos wrote:
Bob there is a big difference between solid state and non solid state cards. Also some CF cards do not stack up to the highter end CF cards and thats a fact. Not just my opinion thats a fact. I have used some cheeper cards and they are not all the same in performance or quality. I fill up 6 512MB cards a week and the San Disk ultra cards are the best for me. I had some off brand and had to send it in for recovery and it cost me a alot of $$$ and time. Never Never go the cheep way out in CF memory. I have also never hand any error messages with the San disk ultra cards like I did with the cheeper cards. These are facts and not opinions. Also you can void your warranty with some CF cards. Thats also a fact.

In a word... hogwash.

You stated a lot of opinions as if they were facts, and they simply are not factual.

If you re-read my posting, I was referring to things other than reliability issues and other than slight speed issues.

I stated that there is simply NO difference in stored digital image quality between different CF cards. None.

The stupid CF card does not know anything about image quality, nor could it care. All it can know is a one or a zero. I defy you to prove otherwise.

So, please don't confuse non-technical types with hogwash.

---Bob Gross---

Bob:

I must agree with you on image quality and CF cards. No difference whatsoever. A “1” is a 1 and a “0” is a 0. The PC DOS (FAT16) style file formats include all kinds of block cyclic redundancy check polynomials that guarantee any bit drop-out or bit-add is detected and access to the file will result in an error. So we can debate speed (doesn’t make that much difference in a D30 or D60) and overall reliability, but not the image quality. …Dan

photography By Evangelos
11th of March 2003 (Tue), 09:01
Well not all CF cards have the same internal electrical resistance or the same shock resistance. Hints a Solid state to non solid state card. I am not saying that there will be any difference image quality just performance and shock resistance. Hope this helps in understanding the difference as it is a fact.

robertwgross
11th of March 2003 (Tue), 11:24
Photography By Evangelos wrote:
Well not all CF cards have the same internal electrical resistance or the same shock resistance. Hints a Solid state to non solid state card. I am not saying that there will be any difference image quality just performance and shock resistance. Hope this helps in understanding the difference as it is a fact.

If you will please go re-read my posting, I clearly stated that I was excluding reliability from the discussion. It is widely accepted that a microdrive can have a head crash or worse, and semiconductor compact flash has no shock worry at all.

Also, if you re-read, I clearly excluded slight speed differences from one type or brand to another.

Internal electrical resistance is total hogwash to the user's point of view. There are no other performance concerns.

Perhaps you were sold a premium product, and now you are trying to justify your premium investment. We don't need such hogwash here.

---Bob Gross---

photography By Evangelos
11th of March 2003 (Tue), 12:01
robertwgross wrote:
Photography By Evangelos wrote:
Well not all CF cards have the same internal electrical resistance or the same shock resistance. Hints a Solid state to non solid state card. I am not saying that there will be any difference image quality just performance and shock resistance. Hope this helps in understanding the difference as it is a fact.

If you will please go re-read my posting, I clearly stated that I was excluding reliability from the discussion. It is widely accepted that a microdrive can have a head crash or worse, and semiconductor compact flash has no shock worry at all.

Also, if you re-read, I clearly excluded slight speed differences from one type or brand to another.

Internal electrical resistance is total hogwash to the user's point of view. There are no other performance concerns.

Perhaps you were sold a premium product, and now you are trying to justify your premium investment. We don't need such hogwash here.

---Bob Gross---

No I just know more in reference to electronic devices as I am a electrical engineer and FCC qualified. So thanks for your opinion. You are very informative in the opinon class of info. Thats all I have to say on this subject. This forum is not ment for us to be NASTY to each other. so lets not let our emotions get in the way and lets be nice and informative. Thanks for your reply and have a wonderful day!!

jmamer
12th of March 2003 (Wed), 23:12
Thanks to all for the discussion. Mostly from my reading of this thread, I decided to buy some sandisk cf cards to back up my micro drive. I've used the micro drive for 18 months in my G1 and 6 months in my D60 with no problems. But, based on what I read, I decided it was time to buy some redundancy. So now I carry Sandisk 1GB and 512meg cards. Since I'm a amateur only, I can afford to run my microdrive until it quits--as long as I have a reasonable backup (I freely admit that I may be somewhat optimisitic in this assessment).

Thanks again
j.