Eye-Fi with 1D Mark IV ???

[prayharder]

Anyone out there use an Eye-Fi with a 1D Mark IV ?

I like the thought of it, but don't like the slowness of SD.

Also, anyone have any luck with the geo-tagging ?

From what I understand it only uses Wi-Fi for geo-tagging, and not GPS...unless there is something I am missing, this won't work out in the middle-of-nowhere...right ?

Anyway, I would love to hear some peoples stories with them.

Ben

[Scuff]

I dont have a Mk4 but I use the Eye-Fi pro 4gb on my 1Ds2 1D3 and G10.

Geotagging isnt really of interest to me so I won't comment on that. I mainly use it for ad-hoc or wifi connection to my laptop when in the studio or at a function.

Whilst the downloads are fast enough with small jpegs, the Raw files take a little longer, but it is worth the wait.

It is great to have the files ready for examination or editing in lightrrom within seconds. The customer loves to see the images straight away and can place orders there and then.

It also save quite a lot of money not having to purchase 2 Canon WiFi transmitters :cool:

For me it is great value and a great timesaver...

[Jon]

You understand right about the geotagging. It will give all your photos the location (if known) of the WiFi network you connect through. The tacit assumption is that it's a static access point that's been mapped, and that the name is unique. If you want geotagging, use a GPS receiver even if you do have an EyeFi card.

I used one of the earlier models (that doesn't do RAW) with my 20D via a SD-CF adapter. It works, but as all it was transferring was JPEG, I don't think that was a fair test.

[Tortri]

Anyone out there use an Eye-Fi with a 1D Mark IV ?

I like the thought of it, but don't like the slowness of SD.

Also, anyone have any luck with the geo-tagging ?

From what I understand it only uses Wi-Fi for geo-tagging, and not GPS...unless there is something I am missing, this won't work out in the middle-of-nowhere...right ?

Anyway, I would love to hear some peoples stories with them.

Ben

Do you happen to use a phone that uses Google Android for it's OS? (Mytouch, cliq, droid, etc.) if so i use MyTrack to record my gps and save it to file, then I use a program on my pc to apply the gps info into the files when they are jpgs(i shoot raw), just be sure the time on you're pc and phone are sync. I dont remember the name of the program off the top of my head, its on my other computer, msg me if your interested and i'll get off my lazy butt and go up stairs to find out.

[canonnoob]

The Eye-fi system has never done any good. It is slow even IF it works. Its not worth the 100 bucks to try IMO.

[Scuff]

The Eye-fi system has never done any good. It is slow even IF it works. Its not worth the 100 bucks to try IMO.

Mine was £75 GBP and is not noticeabley slow. A great deal quicker than removing the card, sticking it in the computer, transferring the files and then opening them in lightroom.

Maybe you tried the old slow version of the card.

Just trying to give an even handed impression of the card.

[canonnoob]

Mine was £75 GBP and is not noticeabley slow. A great deal quicker than removing the card, sticking it in the computer, transferring the files and then opening them in lightroom.

Maybe you tried the old slow version of the card.

Just trying to give an even handed impression of the card.

just so you know... 75 GBP is 115.26 USD.

Depending on the type of computer, and software you are using it is not going to be quicker.

Example.

It takes me exactly 10 seconds to load 560 RAW files onto my laptop VIA an external card reader, and open photo Mechanic to view the files.. No loading what so ever. The Eye-fi system does not compare with that.

[Scuff]

just so you know... 75 GBP is 115.26 USD.

Depending on the type of computer, and software you are using it is not going to be quicker.

Example.

It takes me exactly 10 seconds to load 560 RAW files onto my laptop VIA an external card reader, and open photo Mechanic to view the files.. No loading what so ever. The Eye-fi system does not compare with that.

Wow that is quick - thats way faster than my 1d3 can take them.! 56 RAW files a second - wish my computer was that fast :lol:

[Bloodbean]

just so you know... 75 GBP is 115.26 USD.

Depending on the type of computer, and software you are using it is not going to be quicker.

Example.

It takes me exactly 10 seconds to load 560 RAW files onto my laptop VIA an external card reader, and open photo Mechanic to view the files.. No loading what so ever. The Eye-fi system does not compare with that.

Seems difficult to believe. What size RAW files are you using? 56 RAW per second would be about 560mb per second if you are using 10mb RAW files... :confused:

Troy

[canonnoob]

Seems difficult to believe. What size RAW files are you using? 56 RAW per second would be about 560mb per second if you are using 10mb RAW files... :confused:

Troy

not a stretch.. Im talking all of my camera raw files-40d, mkIIn, and the mkIV.

[Bloodbean]

Which external card reader can do 560mb per second? I thought the fastest CF cards were about 100mb/s?

Troy

[majin tcz]

I would like to know this too!

[Bloodbean]

Looking more into it hard drives aren't even 560mb per second, so he's obviously got his numbers wrong. :(

Troy

[le37]

I bet he's talking about plugging the card into a reader and using his software to browse the photos on the card... that could take 10seconds.

either that, or he got the numbers wrong... maybe 10 minutes.

[canonnoob]

How do you get your photos onto your computer? Let me ask you that?

[Jon]

How do you get your photos onto your computer? Let me ask you that?
Well, you're claiming that you transfer 56 RAW files per second completely from your card onto your laptop. My D60 has raw files that are about 6 MB each; that'd be 330 MB/sec transfer rate at your quoted 560 files in 10 sec. And that's a 6 MP camera, not the 10 MP 40D or 1D3 with their average 12 MB RAW files, let alone the 16 MP 1D4. Or does PhotoMechanic just give you previews off the card, leaving you still needing to transfer the files to the computer, in that 10 sec?

A point to note about the EyeFi - if you're shooting in an area where you have WiFi, the file transfer is going on the whole time you're shooting - it doesn't wait for you to stop, take the card out of the camera, walk it over to the computer, insert it into the card reader and start the transfer process. By the time you get to the computer, if you've been using an EyeFi, at least the first photos will be up ready to view.

[canonnoob]

Well, you're claiming that you transfer 56 RAW files per second completely from your card onto your laptop. My D60 has raw files that are about 6 MB each; that'd be 330 MB/sec transfer rate at your quoted 560 files in 10 sec. And that's a 6 MP camera, not the 10 MP 40D or 1D3 with their average 12 MB RAW files, let alone the 16 MP 1D4. Or does PhotoMechanic just give you previews off the card, leaving you still needing to transfer the files to the computer, in that 10 sec?

A point to note about the EyeFi - if you're shooting in an area where you have WiFi, the file transfer is going on the whole time you're shooting - it doesn't wait for you to stop, take the card out of the camera, walk it over to the computer, insert it into the card reader and start the transfer process. By the time you get to the computer, if you've been using an EyeFi, at least the first photos will be up ready to view.


to get the photos off of my card onto my computer into a new folder - it takes roughly 10 seconds, Through photo mechanic I can browse that folder with or without ingesting the folder. If I ingest it takes that folder and breaks it down into another folder.simply stated It depends on your workflow.

OT- photo mechanic allows you to view your files much faster than lightroom does. Hence why I switched.

[Jon]

For it to actually move those bits onto your computer's drive in that 10 sec., I have to assume that you have Extreme Pro-class cards, an eSATA card reader and a SSD to move the photos to. Seagate's Barracuda 7200 rpm drives claim a sustained throughput of 160 MB/sec. That's about 1/4 of what you'd need to move that much data onto your hard drive in the time you claim, so you'd need to be using them in RAID striped, with at least 5 drives installed to handle the throughput you're claiming. Or else you're confusing the time it takes to display thumbnails with the time needed to move the files to where you can actually work with them.

[Bloodbean]

to get the photos off of my card onto my computer into a new folder - it takes roughly 10 seconds,

Well first off, what type of card are you using? Secondly what type of reader are you using? I'm sure you can appreciate the numbers you are claiming are beyond amazing. Not trying to be a jerk, but if there is actually someway to get that many RAW files off a CF card in 10 seconds as you claim then I want to know how! ;)

Troy

[c2thew]

I would like to know as well. what equipment are you using/ computer setup?

[malakite]

Word to wondering how to get bandwith like that from a card reader. Let us in on the secret. I promise I won't tell anyone :)

[isdoo]

just so you know... 75 GBP is 115.26 USD.

It takes me exactly 10 seconds to load 560 RAW files onto my laptop VIA an external card reader, and open photo Mechanic to view the files.. No loading what so ever. The Eye-fi system does not compare with that.

impossible ;)

Would probably take 5 seconds to just open PM and click on the folder to view them, which leaves 5 seconds to upload the images.

I assume you have a solid state drive, as this would speed it up, but an external card reader would be via USB? So this would slow it down.

I think you mean minutes not seconds ;)

[canonnoob]

wow I really caused a stir huh? lol.. well I guess I succeeded. Being truthful- it takes me about 1.5 minutes for a full 4gb card onto my computer. That is legit. But that is still better than the eye-fi.

[Bloodbean]

Lame...

[Jon]

wow I really caused a stir huh? lol.. well I guess I succeeded. Being truthful- it takes me about 1.5 minutes for a full 4gb card onto my computer. That is legit. But that is still better than the eye-fi.Only if you disregard that the WiFi begins transfer immediately you take the first photo if there's a WiFi network available, while you can't start moving files off the card until you've taken it out of the camera and inserted it into the reader.

And congratulations - after that smart-alec move your credibility around here is now zero and falling. You're going to have to work some to recover to "remotely possible that if 600 other people agree with him, it might be true".

[isdoo]

some people live up to their usernames ;)

[PacAce]

some people live up to their usernames ;)

Careful what you say lest someone out there comes back with a wisecrack remark about your username as well. ;) :)

[Robf]

using extreme IV here, which dumps via a card reader onto a stripe raid SSD drive... that hits the roof of the card way before the drives get pushed. Even the pro sandisks would max out before the drives did. Depending on what it is, it will clock over 100, sometimes 150mB/s. Not bad for a laptop.

[Wilt]

I dont have a Mk4 but I use the Eye-Fi pro 4gb on my 1Ds2 1D3 and G10.

Geotagging isnt really of interest to me so I won't comment on that. I mainly use it for ad-hoc or wifi connection to my laptop when in the studio or at a function.

Whilst the downloads are fast enough with small jpegs, the Raw files take a little longer, but it is worth the wait.

It is great to have the files ready for examination or editing in lightrrom within seconds. The customer loves to see the images straight away and can place orders there and then.

It also save quite a lot of money not having to purchase 2 Canon WiFi transmitters :cool:

For me it is great value and a great timesaver...


Do you use your WiFi Pro using a wireless LAN router, or is it wireless ad hoc connection to a laptop? If the latter, what O/S is the laptop running?

I was able to connect through a wireless router, but unable to establish an ad hoc wireless connection to my Windows XP laptop.

[Scuff]

Do you use your WiFi Pro using a wireless LAN router, or is it wireless ad hoc connection to a laptop? If the latter, what O/S is the laptop running?

I was able to connect through a wireless router, but unable to establish an ad hoc wireless connection to my Windows XP laptop.

Hi Wilt

I normally run it through my wifi networks, but if I am out of range of any wifi networks, I run an AdHoc connection to my laptop, Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.

[cogliostro]

I can't believe someone would actually lie on this friggin internet - guess everybody is genius on the interwebz.

[Wilt]

Hi Wilt

I normally run it through my wifi networks, but if I am out of range of any wifi networks, I run an AdHoc connection to my laptop, Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.

Thanks. EyeFi emailed that WinXP and Vista ad hoc connections were a bit problematic, but Windows7 was much better. I just wanted to hear about success by someone with Win7 before I upgraded. I guess it's time!

[thomas43062]

Can anyone recommend a specific SD-to-Compact Flash Adapter, or are they all about the same? I definitely want to get the fastest one that I can afford, if there is much difference in speed.

[thomas43062]

Also Scuff, if you run it through your wi-fi networks, is this done using your router software, or through Windows 7 on your laptop? Thanks for your help!

[Jon]

I think they're all pretty much the same; at least I don't know of any comparative tests on them.

[Wilt]

Can anyone recommend a specific SD-to-Compact Flash Adapter, or are they all about the same? I definitely want to get the fastest one that I can afford, if there is much difference in speed.

Be sure the adapter is SDHC-to-CF

[thomas43062]

I've got my Eye-fi card, and I used it with a P&S, so I know it's funtional. Now I am trying to use it with the SDHC to CF adapter, and my 5d and 50d are both flashing CF ERR, saying the card is not formatted, but when I go to the format function in the menu, it says it's unable to, and to switch cards. Any ideas?

[Wilt]

Thomas, which specific model of EyeFi did you purchase? Mine is the EyeFi Pro (for RAW support), and it works fine with my 40D in the SDHC-to-CF adapter.

[Jon]

And which SDHC-CF adapter (side note - you're sure it's an SDHC-CF, not SD-CF)? Does the adapter work with other SD cards?

[TeamSpeed]

I used one of their original Eye-Fi cards on my MKIII and really liked it when I was shooting around the house. As I was taking shots, it was uploading them to my laptop. When I was done shooting, they were already there waiting for me. The same would happen if I were on the field with a laptop. The slow speeds never bothered me, because as Jon stated, the upload was happening the entire time.

Their support was outstanding too, because a card became really mixed up and stopped responding, their support team priority shipped a new one to me, and I sent the old one back.

So don't necessarily crack on the transfer speeds because it is very handy to have this transferring while shooting.

[thomas43062]

Thomas, which specific model of EyeFi did you purchase? Mine is the EyeFi Pro (for RAW support), and it works fine with my 40D in the SDHC-to-CF adapter.

Wilt, I have the Eye-Fi Pro X2 (8Gb) card, which claims to support RAW. It works with my Panasonic Lumix P&S via an ad-hoc connection with my computer, so I know the wireless aspect of it works. However, my P&S only shoots JPG, but I don't think that's the problem, since I have tried it with my 50d and 5d in JPG only, RAW only, and JPG+RAW settings

And which SDHC-CF adapter (side note - you're sure it's an SDHC-CF, not SD-CF)? Does the adapter work with other SD cards?

Jon (and Wilt), I appreciate the tip regarding the SDHC adapter, and I am using a JOBO SD/SDHC to CF II adapter. It says it takes both SD and SDHC, and one of the reviews from the B&H Photo website (where I bought it) had a reviewer who stated they used it with their 50d for an Eye-Fi card, although they didn't say which Eye-Fi card they were using. The adapter works with my Eye-Fi card to open up pictures on my computer via a card reader, so I believe the adapter is working, or at least the part that reads the storage is functional. The adapter also works with a regular non-Eye-Fi SDHC card.

When I had the card in the adapter, and the adapter was in a USB card reader, the Eye-Fi Center didn't recognize the card unless I slid the little plastic tab to the "Lock" position, which I thought was odd. Once I did this, I could make any changes needed, since some changes are only possible if you have the card inserted, as it now recognized the card. Unfortunately, my 50d still says Err Cf, and the big LCD says card not formatted. In the menu, I select the "Format card" option, and it says it cannot be formatted, "Change card"

Any ideas anyone? I was hoping to have it working in the next few days, since I've got a shoot on Sunday, and I wanted to be able to look at the pics on my monitor during the shoot. Thanks for everyone's help.

[Wilt]

thomas,
In view of the content of your last post, I am puzzled and have no more to offer on this issue, particularly when you make the comment, "The adapter works with my Eye-Fi card to open up pictures on my computer via a card reader, so I believe the adapter is working", so why it does not work in your camera is puzzling.

[Jon]

Well, I used a Jobo SD adapter with my original SD EyeFi and it worked in my 20D. I suppose that the heavier metal chassis might be interfering with the signal, but other than that, I too am at a loss.

[thomas43062]

Well, thanks for the input. I did notice that this one is the PRO X2, and I did find a 4Gb Pro, so I think I'll give that a shot.

[zgillat]

Guys,

The Canon 1D mk IV is Eye-Fi Connected. You can just insert the Eye-Fi Pro X2 card into the camera, and it will stay on, as long as it needs to, for the JPG's or RAW images to upload. Once the card is done, the camera will turn off :-)

Here is a list of our Eye-Fi Connected cameras, but it's not complete. We keep updating it, on a weekly basis:

http://www.eye.fi/how-it-works/camera-compatibility?postTabs=1

Please DO NOT use a CF adapter. It will ruin your range, and corrupt your files. Just put the Eye-Fi Card into the SDHC slot.

The X2 cards are all Class 6 cards. They will sustain 12MBps write speed, so they're only about 1/2 the speed of the fastest CF cards. There are really fast CF cards that will sustain 90MBps, but no camera can handle them. Most cameras can only handle 30MBps.

Thx --

Ziv.

[zgillat]

and guys, here is a definitive answer for you, on CF adapter:

DO NOT USE THEM, please :-) There are several reasons:

1) X2 cards don't work in Canon bodies, when inserted into a CF adapter
2) any SD card will corrupt images, when inserted into a CF adapter (we've tested this)
3) CF adapters ruin the range by having 2 metal plates on both ends

So the only option is to use Eye-Fi Cards in SD/SDHC slots.

Thx --

Ziv.

[TeamSpeed]

and guys, here is a definitive answer for you, on CF adapter:

DO NOT USE THEM, please :-) There are several reasons:

1) X2 cards don't work in Canon bodies, when inserted into a CF adapter
2) any SD card will corrupt images, when inserted into a CF adapter (we've tested this)
3) CF adapters ruin the range by having 2 metal plates on both ends

So the only option is to use Eye-Fi Cards in SD/SDHC slots.

Thx --

Ziv.

Is there a reason that CF versions of this are not being offered? If they were, there would conceivably be a huge market for those, I would buy 2 myself. I had a couple of eye-fi's in the past and loved them, but now all my cameras use CF.