Review: Lee Big Stopper (10 stop slide-in ND)

[tomtom1]

Received my Lee Big Stopper today in the mail. Hopefully this post will help some who are considering buying it. It cost me £80

http://www.leefilters.com/camera/news/articles/ref:N4B8F96517C324/

I've always wanted a 10 stop ND, however the other options were never that viable. Hitech make a slide in 10 stop ND, however users reported a strong magenta cast, as well as patchy exposure due to light leakage between the filter and holder. B+W make a screw-in 10 stop which looked good, but would also be a pain to setup and use with grad NDs.

The filter is made out of glass, and comes in a 4x4" case. Other than the filter itself, you receive a laminated exposure card, and a leaflet from Lee that explains how to use it. They talk about setting up, exposure, white balance (admit to a colour cast but don't specify what it is) and noise due to long exposures. They also talk about a couple of problems unique to film including reciprocity failure and the possible need for colour correction filters (although again they don't really say exactly which ones you need).

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Issues for the Lee Big Stopper to address would be a) light leakage and b) colour cast.

To start with, the filter comes with a foam gasket on one side. This is designed to bridge the gap between filter and holder when placed in the first filter slot, forming a light seal. I have a Lee holder.

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The foam feels reasonably durable, but I can't really comment on how it will stand up over time, it feels ok.

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There looks like a small gap in this photo, however the filter was probably pushed down a little far.

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The foam gasket does not quite reach all around at the vertical and horizontal points of the holder. The rest of the seal is made with the adapter ring, which sits a tiny bit further back than the holder (less than 1mm). There isn't a perfect seal with the adapter ring, but the gap is so tiny, and there is a fair length of foam I can't see this being a problem.

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Initial reports have disclosed a cool colour cast, which was the case with my example. AWB should sort most of it out, with the rest correctable in PP. The next two shots were taken with WB set at tungsten. The first had no filter, while the second had the big stopper.

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There's a bit of optical vignetting in the second photo, as the shots were taken at f/2.8 and 17mm. For field use you probably need to cover up the eyepiece for a complete light seal, which I didn't do here.

The glass reportedly contains an infrared filter..the absence of which is supposedly the cause of the magenta cast in strong resin NDs such as the hitech, or when stacking weaker ones.

Cokin Z-pro holder: I've never actually held one, but going on pictures I don't think this filter will be compatible. The slot closest to the lens appears to contain some plastic stubs designed to hold a polarizer, which would interfere with the foam seal. Again I'm not 100% sure about this; whether they can be removed or the holder can be reassembled a different way.

I haven't taken the filter out yet, but am pretty keen to see how it goes!

[argyle]

Received my Lee Big Stopper today in the mail. Hopefully this post will help some who are considering buying it. It cost me £80.


Cokin Z-pro holder: I've never actually held one, but going on pictures I don't think this filter will be compatible. The slot closest to the lens appears to contain some plastic stubs designed to hold a polarizer, which would interfere with the foam seal. Again I'm not 100% sure about this; whether they can be removed or the holder can be reassembled a different way.

I haven't taken the filter out yet, but am pretty keen to see how it goes!

Dang...they haven't reached the USA as of yet, but I'm keeping my eyes open. Thanks for the initial review.

This is my big rub against the Z-Pro holder and why I made the switch to the Lee holder several years ago. The plastic stubs (three) that you mention are actually used to secure the holder to the adapter ring. And, as you've mentioned, they prevent one from using the filter slot that's closest to the lens.

[jdizzle]

^I agree with you Mike. I'm gonna give it another week and call Lee USA. Paitence is a virtue. :);)

[tomtom1]

You can always order from the uk, although I'm not sure what the stock situation is like now! I'm from Australia and the way the pound is heading at the moment made the price very reasonable. Apparently these filters are made in asia which may explain why they are actually significantly cheaper than the weaker lee pro glass nds.

Nice to know about the z pro holder. I always thought that those stubs were for a sprocket polarizer, and I swear in some pics they were recessed, but the holder probably wasn't pushed all the way in.

Dang...they haven't reached the USA as of yet, but I'm keeping my eyes open. Thanks for the initial review.

This is my big rub against the Z-Pro holder and why I made the switch to the Lee holder several years ago. The plastic stubs (three) that you mention are actually used to secure the holder to the adapter ring. And, as you've mentioned, they prevent one from using the filter slot that's closest to the lens.

[jdizzle]

You can always order from the uk, although I'm not sure what the stock situation is like now! I'm from Australia and the way the pound is heading at the moment made the price very reasonable. Apparently these filters are made in asia which may explain why they are actually significantly cheaper than the weaker lee pro glass nds.

Nice to know about the z pro holder. I always thought that those stubs were for a sprocket polarizer, and I swear in some pics they were recessed, but the holder probably wasn't pushed all the way in.
I'm not gonna order from the UK. I called Lee about two weeks ago. It'll be in stock soon. :)

[Sauchterlonie]

Mine should be arriving tomorrow so I might be able to add to TomToms review if I get time. :-) As for the stock issuses everywhere would appear to be out of stock again! I was lucky enough to get the last one from the back orders from the company I bought it from, they said they didn't even get enough to put up for sale on their website!!

Simon

[Sauchterlonie]

Also forgot to add that I've heard a lot of people saying that it has blueish cast instead of a magenta cast, which is good news! It's a real pain to remove a magenta cast!

Simon

[tomtom1]

Also forgot to add that I've heard a lot of people saying that it has blueish cast instead of a magenta cast, which is good news! It's a real pain to remove a magenta cast!

Simon

Yep it's definitely got a cool cast. I also tried taking two shots with AWB, and the filter still made it a little cooler, but was a lot closer in colour temperature than with the fixed WB.

[iFloyd]

thanks julian for all the help--read a lot about this, definitely waiting for this to hit the shelves!

[bps]

Thanks for the review Tomtom1!

Bryan

[jdizzle]

thanks julian for all the help--read a lot about this, definitely waiting for this to hit the shelves!
No problem man. Always glad to help. :D Here's what you need to get going if you want to shoot with this filter.

You will need the Lee filter holder and the UWA angle adapter in 82mm. After that, all you need is the filter. :)

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb83/delarosaIII/IMG_4676.jpg

[Depth]

Just the filter I've been looking for. Thanks for posting the review. :)

[argyle]

No problem man. Always glad to help. :D Here's what you need to get going if you want to shoot with this filter.

You will need the Lee filter holder and the UWA angle adapter in 82mm. After that, all you need is the filter. :)

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb83/delarosaIII/IMG_4676.jpg

Is that what's known as 'camera porn' ? :D

[jdizzle]

Is that what's known as 'camera porn' ? :D
Yes it is Sir.:) I have more here. :cool:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=9703379&postcount=1800

[jdizzle]

I called Lee filters USA today and they said it's delayed for another 2 weeks. I hope I can get this filter before my trip so I can try it out. :(

[iFloyd]

I called Lee filters USA today and they said it's delayed for another 2 weeks. I hope I can get this filter before my trip so I can try it out. :(

i hope so too--i can only imagine what your pics would look like!

i'm still waiting to actually get a kit so i can get started :mad:

[ArcticShooter]

Aargh, I would have bought this instead of the B+W screw in filter. This will make it so much easier to change the comp. And a blue cast is easier to handle than the magenta.
So soon I will have B+W fore sale ;)

[Sauchterlonie]

I've only had a quick play with this filter so far since I it arrived but I have to say that it's so easy to use! It does have a definite blue cast though!

Arcticshooter: I'd get your B&W sold mate!

Simon

[jdizzle]

I've only had a quick play with this filter so far since I it arrived but I have to say that it's so easy to use! It does have a definite blue cast though!

Arcticshooter: I'd get your B&W sold mate!

Simon
Hi Simon. Can you get this filter for me? :)

[Sauchterlonie]

I can have a phone around a few stores to see if anyone has any left mate, it'll have to be when I get back home as im away at the moment, if that ok? (will be back on Saturday) But I don't have a problem ordering one for you.

Simon

[jdizzle]

I can have a phone around a few stores to see if anyone has any left mate, it'll have to be when I get back home as im away at the moment, if that ok? (will be back on Saturday) But I don't have a problem ordering one for you.

Simon
Cool! If you do, I will love you forever!! :D;) If there's none available by you, I can always see if Lee USA gets them in time. :) Thanks!

[Sauchterlonie]

Lol, think the love bit might be taking it a bit far! Hehe.

I'll have a look round and phone a few places and then let you know. Knowing LEE you might have a long wait!!

Simon

[jcothron]

I'm SOL either way.. leaving Saturday morning.. grrrrrr. I'm hearing that Lee has issues with supplying holders again, as well as GND's. I wish they would get their act together they have great products.

[jdizzle]

I'm SOL either way.. leaving Saturday morning.. grrrrrr. I'm hearing that Lee has issues with supplying holders again, as well as GND's. I wish they would get their act together they have great products.
I agree. Why are they so slow in production? Maybe not enough man power I assume.

[jcothron]

I agree. Why are they so slow in production? Maybe not enough man power I assume.

they had a problem with the injection molder last year, although I'm not sure what was and is holding up filter production. It might be that polycarbonate has gone up over $.50 a pound. :) They seem to have a problem getting them molded again this year, not sure what the hold up is this time. Luckily I got most of what I have before any of that started.

[Sauchterlonie]

Don't know what's happening with LEE, but wen they run out of stock it's usually 6-8 weeks before they get them back in!!

Simon

[ArcticShooter]

I've only had a quick play with this filter so far since I it arrived but I have to say that it's so easy to use! It does have a definite blue cast though!

Arcticshooter: I'd get your B&W sold mate!

Simon

So are you interested in a trade? I pay the postage for the B+W and you for the Lee? Pricewise it is the same I guess?

[jdizzle]

So are you interested in a trade? I pay the postage for the B+W and you for the Lee? Pricewise it is the same I guess?
I think he means to sell your B+W filter and then get this instead. No trades. :)

[ArcticShooter]

I think he means to sell your B+W filter and then get this instead. No trades. :)
Yeah, I saw it now. To fast a work in replying. Oh well I just have to contact some friends in the UK then

[jdang307]

any idea on price when it hits US shores? I can ask my buddy in London to send one over, if it's going ot be hard to get and pricey here.

[jdizzle]

any idea on price when it hits US shores? I can ask my buddy in London to send one over, if it's going ot be hard to get and pricey here.
It should be around $150-$160 USD.

[Sauchterlonie]

Arcticshooter: Lol mate I wouldn't swap for a B&W mate, I couldnt stand the hassle of using it! The Lee is a dream to use and I can only see me liking it more and more as time goes on! I've been using it a few more times times today and it's really simple to use, even if your not after a long exposure it's simple enough to drop in and bang out a shot whilst everythings setup!

I'm well chuffed with it.

Simon

[iFloyd]

you folks are talking about the big filter when I have 0 Lee filters! I placed an order on 2filter but its a long backlog! Patiently waiting for my 2-soft, 3-hard, 82mm adapter and foundation kit! I'm itching to shoot with these!

*if anyone can help me get the above equip (and big filter) it would be greatly appreciated! i hate waiting!

[jdizzle]

you folks are talking about the big filter when I have 0 Lee filters! I placed an order on 2filter but its a long backlog! Patiently waiting for my 2-soft, 3-hard, 82mm adapter and foundation kit! I'm itching to shoot with these!

*if anyone can help me get the above equip (and big filter) it would be greatly appreciated! i hate waiting!
2filter is known have orders backed up and making customers wait a long while. Even B&H and Adorama are also out of stock.

[argyle]

you folks are talking about the big filter when I have 0 Lee filters! I placed an order on 2filter but its a long backlog! Patiently waiting for my 2-soft, 3-hard, 82mm adapter and foundation kit! I'm itching to shoot with these!

*if anyone can help me get the above equip (and big filter) it would be greatly appreciated! i hate waiting!

If you're trying to get individual Lee filters, there's an obvious backlog. There may be a way around it, though. Both 2filter and B&H stock a Lee three-filter kit in either soft or hard gradient (unfortunately, you can't mix gradient types). Each kit contains a 1-stop, 2-stop, and 3-stop filter. Purchased in 'kit' form, the total price is about $30-$40 less than if you purchased each filter separately. These are usually in stock at both places...

[rvdw98]

I'm well chuffed with it.

I wouldn't have been quite sure what you mean by that, if it hadn't been for this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYmrg3owTRE

[rvdw98]

i hate waiting!

Unfortunately (and speaking from experience), the concepts "Lee" and "waiting" have been joined at the hip for about as long as I can remember. :(

[ArcticShooter]

Arcticshooter: Lol mate I wouldn't swap for a B&W mate, I couldnt stand the hassle of using it! The Lee is a dream to use and I can only see me liking it more and more as time goes on! I've been using it a few more times times today and it's really simple to use, even if your not after a long exposure it's simple enough to drop in and bang out a shot whilst everythings setup!

I'm well chuffed with it.

Simon
Well I saw the potential right away when I saw that Lee did a 10 stopper

you folks are talking about the big filter when I have 0 Lee filters! I placed an order on 2filter but its a long backlog! Patiently waiting for my 2-soft, 3-hard, 82mm adapter and foundation kit! I'm itching to shoot with these!

*if anyone can help me get the above equip (and big filter) it would be greatly appreciated! i hate waiting!
I waited 3 months on my filters from 2filter. But they keep you updated so there is no problem. I bought the kit with Hard Edge ND filters, I should have gotten the Soft Edge also

If you're trying to get individual Lee filters, there's an obvious backlog. There may be a way around it, though. Both 2filter and B&H stock a Lee three-filter kit in either soft or hard gradient (unfortunately, you can't mix gradient types). Each kit contains a 1-stop, 2-stop, and 3-stop filter. Purchased in 'kit' form, the total price is about $30-$40 less than if you purchased each filter separately. These are usually in stock at both places...
I was allowed to mix since they didn't have everything imn stock. But I waited since it was dark and winter here so I didn't need them right away.
BH seems to get them faster that 2filters. Probably since they have faster turnover. But you pay more at BH

[iFloyd]

Well I saw the potential right away when I saw that Lee did a 10 stopper


I waited 3 months on my filters from 2filter. But they keep you updated so there is no problem. I bought the kit with Hard Edge ND filters, I should have gotten the Soft Edge also


I was allowed to mix since they didn't have everything imn stock. But I waited since it was dark and winter here so I didn't need them right away.
BH seems to get them faster that 2filters. Probably since they have faster turnover. But you pay more at BH

3 months? wow, that's all i have to say--i signed up to be notified when bh gets them in stock as well

i'm just hoping i get to practice with this before my trip out in the summer

[argyle]

Here's a link to dealers that carry Lee products...you can try calling a few that could be local to you:

Dealers that sell Lee filters/accessories (http://www.leefiltersusa.com/downloads/LEECameraDealers.pdf)

[GMCPhotographics]

Unfortunately (and speaking from experience), the concepts "Lee" and "waiting" have been joined at the hip for about as long as I can remember. :(

Yup a concept usually experieced with the British National Health Service...Hip....and waiting....lol!

[GMCPhotographics]

Guys, i don't know why you are all getting excited about this filter. 10 stops is usually too dark, a 5 or 6 stop is ideal. Either way, the hoya 9 stop or Heliopan 6 or 9 stop are a lot more convientient. Especially now that you can get an 82mm thread that doesn't vignette with a 16-35IIL, when i had the Lee 100mm filters, I couldn't go wider than 21mm.

[jdizzle]

Guys, i don't know why you are all getting excited about this filter. 10 stops is usually too dark, a 5 or 6 stop is ideal. Either way, the hoya 9 stop or Heliopan 6 or 9 stop are a lot more convientient. Especially now that you can get an 82mm thread that doesn't vignette with a 16-35IIL, when i had the Lee 100mm filters, I couldn't go wider than 21mm.
Why isn't it exciting? :confused: This makes for better photo creativity plus I can stack this filter with my 4x4 CPL plus a GND w/o vignetting. Using a screw on filter is limited in its use IMHO.

[ArcticShooter]

Why isn't it exciting? :confused: This makes for better photo creativity plus I can stack this filter with my 4x4 CPL plus a GND w/o vignetting. Using a screw on filter is limited in its use IMHO.
+1 on that. I just ordered mine today from UK. Will be in stock in May
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-lee-big-stopper/p1519732

[jdizzle]

+1 on that. I just ordered mine today from UK. Will be in stock in May
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-lee-big-stopper/p1519732
May is a long time if you ask me. :)

[rvdw98]

Using a screw on filter is limited in its use IMHO.

Limitations only exist in the mind. :D

[Anke]

Thanks for posting the pictures and review, I was wondering how they would go about solving the light leakage issue. Just debating now whether it's worth replacing my piece of £1 welding mask glass (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=767152) for one :)

[Depth]

I'd like to get those foam seals for my other filters.

[rvdw98]

As I've only been working with GND's so far, does anyone have some insight as to how much of an issue this is with (stacked) regular ND's? I can imagine that light leakage could ruin a shot at much less than 10 stops of ND. Is this an achilles heel of sorts for the filter holder system?

Also, how would the new big stopper owners rate the durability of these seals? Do they seem prone to wear or could they just peel off eventually?

[Tomi Hawk]

beautiful! ;)

[ArcticShooter]

As I've only been working with GND's so far, does anyone have some insight as to how much of an issue this is with (stacked) regular ND's? I can imagine that light leakage could ruin a shot at much less than 10 stops of ND. Is this an achilles heel of sorts for the filter holder system?

That is only a problem with 10 stops or so.
The other problem is color distortion. Cokin ND filters are not color neutral. To get that you have to use the high ends filters like Lee.

[rvdw98]

That is only a problem with 10 stops or so.
The other problem is color distortion. Cokin ND filters are not color neutral. To get that you have to use the high ends filters like Lee.

I know about the Cokin color cast; that's why I switched to Lee late last year. But I started out with two sets of GND's (1, 2 & 3 stops hard & soft) and was planning on adding a few ND's later. So I was wondering if leakage would be an issue with "regular" ND's as well, but apparently I shouldn't worry about that.

For 10 stops ND, I think I'll stick with my B+W filter for the time being.

[argyle]

I know about the Cokin color cast; that's why I switched to Lee late last year. But I started out with two sets of GND's (1, 2 & 3 stops hard & soft) and was planning on adding a few ND's later. So I was wondering if leakage would be an issue with "regular" ND's as well, but apparently I shouldn't worry about that.

For 10 stops ND, I think I'll stick with my B+W filter for the time being.

The foam seal around the four sides of the ND filter are fine since the ND filter, once in place, usually doesn't get adjusted (as you would a GND filter when setting the gradient placement). The same type of seal on a GND would eventually get torn up due to friction from adjusting the GND. You could possibly use a foam tape or something similar along the top and bottom edges of the GND, but I've personally never found light leakage to be a problem. But if its that worrisome, a much simpler fix would be to take a small towel or piece of cloth and just drape it around the holder.

[GMCPhotographics]

I know about the Cokin color cast; that's why I switched to Lee late last year. But I started out with two sets of GND's (1, 2 & 3 stops hard & soft) and was planning on adding a few ND's later. So I was wondering if leakage would be an issue with "regular" ND's as well, but apparently I shouldn't worry about that.

For 10 stops ND, I think I'll stick with my B+W filter for the time being.

Actually, they all have colour casts. I've been using Sing-ray, Lee, hi-tek and Cokin for the past 15 years. They all have colour casts, none of them are truely neutral or linear acros the light / contrast spectrum.
When I spoke to a Lee techie a while back, he said that the Lee ND grads use a combination of dyes to replicate a linear curve, which inevitably leads to an aproximation. The problem is that the dye manufacturers sometimes are off spec or there's a variance. This translates to a filter that's "with in prod specs"...but still has a colour cast. The trick is to get a pleasing cast and not an ugly one...eg a warm cast is preferable to a green on blue. The ND fader has a slight green cast but is relatively neutral and the Hoya ND400 is warm.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2713/4257901734_3b0731e5af_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2768/4141169591_cf76f957ab_o.jpg

[jdizzle]

Actually, they all have colour casts. I've been using Sing-ray, Lee, hi-tek and Cokin for the past 15 years. They all have colour casts, none of them are truely neutral or linear acros the light / contrast spectrum.
When I spoke to a Lee techie a while back, he said that the Lee ND grads use a combination of dyes to replicate a linear curve, which inevitably leads to an aproximation. The problem is that the dye manufacturers sometimes are off spec or there's a variance. This translates to a filter that's "with in prod specs"...but still has a colour cast. The trick is to get a pleasing cast and not an ugly one...eg a warm cast is preferable to a green on blue.
The Lee and Singh Ray give off a slight color cast but, not as pronounced as the Cokin/Hitech.

[GMCPhotographics]

Actually, I found my Hitechs to be more linear. But they seemed to be heavy with the contrast and a cooler tint. What i like about lee is the thickness of the resin, Hitechs are almost flimsy in comparision and Cokin don't have the resolution. They aren't as optically clear.
These days i don't use ND grads any more. Just ND's and I use a digital blend of two or three exposures, which is why I favour the Heliopan and Hoya 3/6/9 stop filters.

[rvdw98]

These days i don't use ND grads any more. Just ND's and I use a digital blend of two or three exposures, which is why I favour the Heliopan and Hoya 3/6/9 stop filters.

I have gone the opposite way: getting it right in the field instead of the dark room. That's not a right or wrong proposition though. For me personally, it just makes me feel more involved in the capturing process and helps me visualize what I'm going after (for lack of a well-developed mind's eye).

The benefits of digital blending are of course that you're guaranteed to be free of any color casts, and that it allows for more flexibility in the shape, strength and placement of the "filter".

[rvdw98]

The foam seal around the four sides of the ND filter are fine since the ND filter, once in place, usually doesn't get adjusted (as you would a GND filter when setting the gradient placement).

It's just that foam doesn't give me a sense of durability. Even though you won't adjust ND's, you'll still slide them in and out the the holder and your filter pouch/wallet quite frequently. It all depends on what kind of foam is actually being used on these filters though.

The same type of seal on a GND would eventually get torn up due to friction from adjusting the GND. You could possibly use a foam tape or something similar along the top and bottom edges of the GND, but I've personally never found light leakage to be a problem. But if its that worrisome, a much simpler fix would be to take a small towel or piece of cloth and just drape it around the holder.

True, simple solutions usually work best. And I suppose I'll just have to cross that road when I come to it.

[Anke]

The foam seal around the four sides of the ND filter are fine since the ND filter, once in place, usually doesn't get adjusted (as you would a GND filter when setting the gradient placement).

But surely the act of needing to remove the filter to be able to focus on a new scene everytime would mean sliding it in and out quite often?

[rvdw98]

But surely the act of needing to remove the filter to be able to focus on a new scene everytime would mean sliding it in and out quite often?

That's quite a keen observation. :D;)

[Anke]

Is the foam removable? Perhaps Lee does very pricey replacements ;)

[rvdw98]

Is the foam removable? Perhaps Lee does very pricey replacements ;)

As long as they don't run into trouble with their foam moulding machine that is. :D

[Jon]

But surely the act of needing to remove the filter to be able to focus on a new scene everytime would mean sliding it in and out quite often?
Well, you can always remove the whole filter holder for that. Won't affect the foam a bit. Just take it off the mounting ring.

[argyle]

But surely the act of needing to remove the filter to be able to focus on a new scene everytime would mean sliding it in and out quite often?

Not necessarily...if your camera body has Live View, it'll see right through it. If your camera doesn't have LV, simply unclipping the entire holder is another option when recomposing a scene.

[Anke]

As long as they don't run into trouble with their foam moulding machine that is. :D

Touché :)

Well, you can always remove the whole filter holder for that. Won't affect the foam a bit. Just take it off the mounting ring.

Not necessarily...if your camera body has Live View, it'll see right through it. If your camera doesn't have LV, simply unclipping the entire holder is another option when recomposing a scene.

Good point, I forgot about that :)

[GMCPhotographics]

I have gone the opposite way: getting it right in the field instead of the dark room. That's not a right or wrong proposition though. For me personally, it just makes me feel more involved in the capturing process and helps me visualize what I'm going after (for lack of a well-developed mind's eye).

The benefits of digital blending are of course that you're guaranteed to be free of any color casts, and that it allows for more flexibility in the shape, strength and placement of the "filter".

There's no harm in htat approach either bud. 7 years ago I went down that whole route and pretty much nailed the technique...hell i even managed to custom make a 130mm holder for my Sigma 12-24mm on a full frame....and it works well. I think i've still got a set of NDG's for that.
Two years ago I fire sold most of my Lee gear to pursue a different direction because I felt that I needed to move on.
The approach that i'm currently taking is not free from colour casts because I am using a different ND filter for different exposures and so that i can dial in the right shutter speed for a given situation. So far, no one has made a truely neutral Density filter (let alone a ND grad). I have tried just about every brand and every possible style of filter. Now days i look for a filter that offers a pleasing colour cast.

[ArcticShooter]

Not necessarily...if your camera body has Live View, it'll see right through it. If your camera doesn't have LV, simply unclipping the entire holder is another option when recomposing a scene.
If you need to re-focus that might be a problem. I would say it is easier to just remove the filter holder since it is easy with the Lee holder

[argyle]

If you need to re-focus that might be a problem. I would say it is easier to just remove the filter holder since it is easy with the Lee holder

Whichever way works best...I just simply keep it in LV, go to 10x, and use manual focus.

[jdizzle]

Whichever way works best...I just simply keep it in LV, go to 10x, and use manual focus.
That's what I do. :)

[Tom K.]

Well, you can always remove the whole filter holder for that. Won't affect the foam a bit. Just take it off the mounting ring.

Great idea. I just ordered one of these filters. The only thing that concerns me is that I won't be able to use a lens hood.

[jdang307]

Great idea. I just ordered one of these filters. The only thing that concerns me is that I won't be able to use a lens hood.

Where did you order it?

[Tom K.]

Where did you order it?

Scroll down the page at this link. Great company. I always buy filters from them:
http://www.2filter.com/Leefilters/LeeFilters4x4.html

[Depth]

Oh, delivery expected by the end of April. Thought they actually had them in stock.

Price is really nice though, for some reason I expected it to cost more.

[jdizzle]

Oh, delivery expected by the end of April. Thought they actually had them in stock.

Price is really nice though, for some reason I expected it to cost more.
That's what makes me want it even more. The beauty of this filter is the endless creativity. Plus, the blue cast is easily corrected in post. :D Can't wait! :)

[jdizzle]

I forgot to mention that I called Lee USA yesterday and they said another three weeks wait on this filter. It's really frustrating that this company is behind in manufacturing and not readily available when announced. :confused: I just wait some more. :(

[rvdw98]

It's really frustrating that this company is behind in manufacturing and not readily available when announced. :confused: I just wait some more. :(

Actually, that's been quite a trend across the board lately. Or perhaps we've just become spoiled by the instant satisfaction economy model. ;)

But their production line certainly hasn't been able to keep up with demand for like... ever? :cry:

[jdizzle]

Actually, that's been quite a trend across the board lately. Or perhaps we've just become spoiled by the instant satisfaction economy model. ;)

But their production line certainly hasn't been able to keep up with demand for like... ever? :cry:
True. Although, when I order from Singh Ray, I get instant gratification from them. They don't give me a runaround when I call. :)

[rvdw98]

True. Although, when I order from Singh Ray, I get instant gratification from them. They don't give me a runaround when I call. :)

At least you know what you're paying through the nose for. :lol:

[jdizzle]

At least you know what you're paying through the nose for. :lol:
Haha! :lol: I don't have any regrets with SR products. They are a joy to use. :)

[rvdw98]

I've been sorely tempted for quite some time now, but managed to withstand the call of the siren so far. :D

[jdang307]

Damn that's a long time out. Hmm, still deciding .... $134 from 2filter is a nice price

[jdizzle]

^ It isn't a bad price at all. I ordered one too. Now, I just wait. :)

[Sauchterlonie]

Glad to see you got sorted Julian, I did contact my local supplier but they said 4-6 weeks, just forgot to tell you! Lol.

[iFloyd]

Scroll down the page at this link. Great company. I always buy filters from them:
http://www.2filter.com/Leefilters/LeeFilters4x4.html

thanks for the link--i just ordered mine from them. even if i do get it, i wont be able to use it until 2filter fulfills my previous orders!

[jcothron]

Ahh.. I just got back from my trip to the mountains. I see the Lee still isn't readily available. Looks like a great price at 2filter though so good time to order.

[jdizzle]

Ahh.. I just got back from my trip to the mountains. I see the Lee still isn't readily available. Looks like a great price at 2filter though so good time to order.
I'm a bit torn that I won't be able to try this filter on my trip next week but, that's ok. At least I have my Zeiss 21 to make up for it. :)

[jdizzle]

Glad to see you got sorted Julian, I did contact my local supplier but they said 4-6 weeks, just forgot to tell you! Lol.
No worries Simon.:) For an item that's difficult to aquire, I shouldn't have my hopes up high. Oh well...:)

[jcothron]

I'm a bit torn that I won't be able to try this filter on my trip next week but, that's ok. At least I have my Zeiss 21 to make up for it. :)

It would have been nice, I shot one sunrise in particular that would have been interesting with it. Not a good week at all for water/waterfalls it was far too clear out, but I did manage to get a few I like.

[robscomputer]

I have a B+W 10 stop filter but wanted to know how well does a glass filter like this work, better since you can more easily adjust it?

[argyle]

I have a B+W 10 stop filter but wanted to know how well does a glass filter like this work, better since you can more easily adjust it?

Not sure what you mean by 'adjust' the filter...its not a gradient. Or are you referring to sliding in the filter versus threading on a round filter? It really shouldn't be a big deal either way...either will have the potential (slight) to knock something out of kilter (either by threading a filter and possibly knocking the lens out of focus, or causing some movement of the holder depending on how friction there is between the filter pads and the slots when sliding it in). If your camera has LIve View, even better...it'll 'see' through the filter with it in place...no need to place the filter on afterwards.

[tomtom1]

Not sure what you mean by 'adjust' the filter...its not a gradient. Or are you referring to sliding in the filter versus threading on a round filter? It really shouldn't be a big deal either way...either will have the potential (slight) to knock something out of kilter (either by threading a filter and possibly knocking the lens out of focus, or causing some movement of the holder depending on how friction there is between the filter pads and the slots when sliding it in). If your camera has LIve View, even better...it'll 'see' through the filter with it in place...no need to place the filter on afterwards.

It's a little bit more snug to slide in than a grad so you could definitely bump it if you weren't careful but I don't see it being a huge issue. Live view didn't work for me - too dark but I was using a lens with f5.6 max aperture at 20mm

[Jose Ramos]

I'm a long time ND filter user.

I currently have 6 ND grad filters from hitech, an hoya nd400 and the 10 stop ND filter.

I stopped using the hoya nd400 because it's a huge hassle to use it. I bought the hitech 10 stop because of it's ease to use.

To the person who said you can compose through live view with a 10 stop filter in front of the lens, it's NOT TRUE. I upgraded my camera mainly based on that premise, only to find out that you can't see anything through the LV in this situation, unless it's extremely bright outside, but if it is, you can also compose through the OVF.

Unfortunately, the 10 stop hitech filter does have a STRONG magenta cast, which sometimes can be a good thing, but sometimes it just is too much.

I use a Cokin Z-Pro holder and you can use it reversed, so that the first slot gets much closer to the lens, and the plastic stubles can be totaly retracted.

Does anyone of you have any idea if the Lee Big Stopper would fit on the first slot of the inverted cokin z-pro holder?

Cheers
José Ramos
http://www.joseramos.com (fine art nature/landscape photography)

[argyle]

I'm a long time ND filter user.

I currently have 6 ND grad filters from hitech, an hoya nd400 and the 10 stop ND filter.

I stopped using the hoya nd400 because it's a huge hassle to use it. I bought the hitech 10 stop because of it's ease to use.

To the person who said you can compose through live view with a 10 stop filter in front of the lens, it's NOT TRUE. I upgraded my camera mainly based on that premise, only to find out that you can't see anything through the LV in this situation, unless it's extremely bright outside, but if it is, you can also compose through the OVF.

Unfortunately, the 10 stop hitech filter does have a STRONG magenta cast, which sometimes can be a good thing, but sometimes it just is too much.

I use a Cokin Z-Pro holder and you can use it reversed, so that the first slot gets much closer to the lens, and the plastic stubles can be totaly retracted.

Does anyone of you have any idea if the Lee Big Stopper would fit on the first slot of the inverted cokin z-pro holder?

Cheers
José Ramos
http://www.joseramos.com (fine art nature/landscape photography)

Nonsense...I do it all the time, even with a polarizer stacked with it, which tosses an additional 2-stops of light reduction into the mix (of course, you can't do it in poor light or darkness, with or without the polarizer).

Reversing the Z-Pro holder prevents you from stacking filters...I regularly use an ND and polarizer in conjunction with a GND...can't do it when you reverse the holder and only have a single slot. This is the main reason why I got rid of my Z-Pro several years ago and made the switch to the Lee holder (plus, I hated to fuss with the stinking tiny pins).

[Jose Ramos]

Nonsense...I do it all the time, even with a polarizer stacked with it, which tosses an additional 2-stops of light reduction into the mix (of course, you can't do it in poor light or darkness, with or without the polarizer).

Reversing the Z-Pro holder prevents you from stacking filters...I regularly use an ND and polarizer in conjunction with a GND...can't do it when you reverse the holder and only have a single slot. This is the main reason why I got rid of my Z-Pro several years ago and made the switch to the Lee holder (plus, I hated to fuss with the stinking tiny pins).


No, it's not nonsense, it's the experience of being out there for many hours. I make 95% of my landscape shots during the "golden hour" and after sunset, so I'm almost always working with low light. In these conditions the live view is worthless when you are also using a 10 stop filter.

As to the z-pro holder, you can reverse it and screw the filter slots in the opposite side, and you can also leave the spacers in the non-filter side, so that the filters are closer, reducing vignetting. Right now I'm using the z-pro holder reversed, and I have three available slots, with no spacers between them.

My simple question is: will the lee with the foam strips fit on this first slot?

[argyle]

You clearly missed the part in my post about "you can't do it in poor light or darkness, with or without the polarizer". I also shoot in "golden hours", and I have used successfully 10-stops with Live View during this shooting window with a 5D2 (Singh-Ray Vari-N-Duo maxed to 10-stops with ND and polarizer). Been shooting for 30+ years, so (1) I'm not a noob and (2) do vaguely remember the conditions that I shoot under and what works/doesn't work. As for shooting in low/poor light with 10-stops of light reduction, a little common sense should prevail... :rolleyes:

I see you have one post...before you infer that someone is a liar, maybe you should think before you type. Not a good way to start off...

[Jose Ramos]

You clearly missed the part in my post about "you can't do it in poor light or darkness, with or without the polarizer". I also shoot in "golden hours", and I have used successfully 10-stops with Live View during this shooting window with a 5D2 (Singh-Ray Vari-N-Duo maxed to 10-stops with ND and polarizer). Been shooting for 30+ years, so (1) I'm not a noob and (2) do vaguely remember the conditions that I shoot under and what works/doesn't work. As for shooting in low/poor light with 10-stops of light reduction, a little common sense should prevail... :rolleyes:

I see you have one post...before you infer that someone is a liar, maybe you should think before you type.

Considering that my experience is totally different from yours (and this may be dependent on several factors like camera, available light, etc), we can infer you were the first one calling someone a liar, so now you can stop with the rude tone and start talking about the main subject here, related with the lee big stopper.

[jdizzle]

I have to agree with Argyle. I use Live View all the time on my 1Ds MK III and MF works for me with the filter on. :confused:

[Jose Ramos]

I have to agree with Argyle. I use Live View all the time on my 1Ds MK III and MF works for me with the filter on. :confused:

We should move on and continue writing about the Lee filter. :D

[jdizzle]

We should move on and continue writing about the Lee filter. :D
Ok. Whatever. :) Mine's on order and waiting is part of the turmoil. :)

[jdang307]

Apparently B&H, Adorama and the filter connection should be receiving these very soon.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=35174831

Two weeks it seems. It's always two weeks isnt it :D

[strax]

I have posted a comparison review between the Lee big Stopper and the Hitech 10 stop ND filter HERE (http://blog.robertstrachan.com/archives/844/lee-big-stopper-hitech-10-stop-nd-filter-review/) if anyones interested.

[iFloyd]

I have posted a comparison review between the Lee big Stopper and the Hitech 10 stop ND filter HERE (http://blog.robertstrachan.com/archives/844/lee-big-stopper-hitech-10-stop-nd-filter-review/) if anyones interested.

excellent read! thanks for posting the link

[Sauchterlonie]

I've written a little bit about my first findings with using the Lee 10stop whilst out in the field on my blog also. Check it out if you have time, it's in my signature below.

Cheers

Simon

[argyle]

Received an email from 2filter several days ago...they're expecting to take initial delivery of 10 Big Stopper filters any day now (may even have them already) and will begin shipping orders as they were placed. I was #26 on the list, and they're expecting a larger shipment within two additional weeks.

[Sauchterlonie]

This is great news guys as I'd love to see some more photos using this filter.

Simon

[Sauchterlonie]

Did any of you guys receive your 10 stoppers yet? A friend of mine has just snapped his and has had to place an order for another one!! Don't know whats worse, having to pay for a new one or having to wait 6-8 weeks to get it!?

Simon

[amoergosum]

I would be really interested to see a shot taken with a 5D (or 5D MKII), a 16-35mm lens (regular or MKII) and the Big Stopper.

[Anke]

I have posted a comparison review between the Lee big Stopper and the Hitech 10 stop ND filter HERE (http://blog.robertstrachan.com/archives/844/lee-big-stopper-hitech-10-stop-nd-filter-review/) if anyones interested.

Nice read, thanks for posting.

[Anke]

I would be really interested to see a shot taken with a 5D (or 5D MKII), a 16-35mm lens (regular or MKII) and the Big Stopper.

Me too :)

[Sauchterlonie]

I can arrange to take some shots with a 5DmkII, but I don't have a 16-35! The widest I could go would be 24mm :-(

Simon

[Anke]

I can arrange to take some shots with a 5DmkII, but I don't have a 16-35! The widest I could go would be 24mm :-(

Simon

Worth a look anyway ;)

[Sauchterlonie]

Will try to get out sometime soon then and have a play with the BIG Stopper and the 5D.

Simon

[Sauchterlonie]

Just thought I have a shot on my Flickr which is shot at 13mm but with a 1.6 crop of the 40D makes it around the 20mm mark......Its the shot of Dunstanburgh Castle. You can check it out on my Blog too.

Simon.

[jdizzle]

Just curious to find out if anyone has received their Big Stopper yet. Thanks!

[argyle]

Nope...still waiting. Since you ordered before me, and still haven't received yours as of yet, me thinks that I'll be waiting still longer. :confused:

[jdizzle]

Yeah. I'm a bit down that Lee can't even produce these filters in mass. I guess we continue to wait. :(

[Sauchterlonie]

Just checked supplier over here and and they are still saying 6-8 weeks!!

Simon

[jdizzle]

^My GAWD! 6-8 weeks is still a long time.

[jdizzle]

I have some great news!:) I called 2filter today and they finally got some stock! I gave them my order number and they'll be shipping mine out today! :D They have orders filled up to April 16th. So, if you have one ordered before that, you're definitely going to get one. :) I'm so excited! I can't wait! :):cool:

[rvdw98]

Now that definitely sounds better than 6-8 weeks. ;)

[wintermutant]

i contacted 2filter about this thing a while back, i could've been #29 in line, something like that, but i didn't pull the trigger...there's no way it would've arrived before my big excursion to the southwest US (now over), so i didn't queue up...looks like that was a mistake, as it's nearly two months later and they're just shipping?

lee must be having huge problems right now...i've been waiting for a 77mm wide angle adapter ring for months now as well...

[argyle]

I have some great news!:) I called 2filter today and they finally got some stock! I gave them my order number and they'll be shipping mine out today! :D They have orders filled up to April 16th. So, if you have one ordered before that, you're definitely going to get one. :) I'm so excited! I can't wait! :):cool:

Cool...looks like I'll be camping out at the mail box.

[jdizzle]

Now that definitely sounds better than 6-8 weeks. ;)
The wait is finally over. :)

i contacted 2filter about this thing a while back, i could've been #29 in line, something like that, but i didn't pull the trigger...there's no way it would've arrived before my big excursion to the southwest US (now over), so i didn't queue up...looks like that was a mistake, as it's nearly two months later and they're just shipping?

lee must be having huge problems right now...i've been waiting for a 77mm wide angle adapter ring for months now as well...
I wouldn't say Lee has problems. They just can't keep up with the demand.

Cool...looks like I'll be camping out at the mail box.
It's gonna be fun stacking this filter with a GND and CPL. :)

[ben_r_]

Man.... TEN STOPS!?!?! Thats pretty impressive.

[jdizzle]

Man.... TEN STOPS!?!?! Thats pretty impressive.
It is impressive. :) I've been waiting for this type of filter from Lee for a long time. :)

[PilotBrad]

lee must be having huge problems right now...i've been waiting for a 77mm wide angle adapter ring for months now as well...
I bought one (77mm WA) direct from Lee about a month ago... give them a call.

[Sauchterlonie]

Great to hear you finally got a Lee 10stop Julian! You're going to have to show us some photos using it now!

Simon

[argyle]

I was told about 6 weeks ago that I was #26 in line...haven't heard a word back from 2filter since. Tried to call them multiple times yesterday to check on order status, sent an email as well...never had one call answered nor did I have an email response. May have to do my purchasing elsewhere if this is how they typically conduct business...

[jdizzle]

Great to hear you finally got a Lee 10stop Julian! You're going to have to show us some photos using it now!

Simon
I will. I can't wait myself.


I was told about 6 weeks ago that I was #26 in line...haven't heard a word back from 2filter since. Tried to call them multiple times yesterday to check on order status, sent an email as well...never had one call answered nor did I have an email response. May have to do my purchasing elsewhere if this is how they typically conduct business...
I hope this isn't the way they do business. Let's just wait and see if they actually ship me one. The filter should be here by Teusday. :confused:

[jdizzle]

So, I call them back today to find out what's going with my order and the sales rep (Andrea) tells me that the package has an error on it. She explained to me that there was some typo on the label and will be returned to them on Thursday. Anyways, she was apologetic and will ship it two day with no charge. I guess I'll be waiting again. :rolleyes:

[argyle]

Waiting seems to be the norm. I finally heard back from 2filter...I moved up to #6 on the list, and they're expecting another shipment to reach them within two weeks. So my guess is up to an additional two weeks for it to reach me...provided they receive more than six filters.

[jdizzle]

Waiting seems to be the norm. I finally heard back from 2filter...I moved up to #6 on the list, and they're expecting another shipment to reach them within two weeks. So my guess is up to an additional two weeks for it to reach me...provided they receive more than six filters.
Did you call them? Or did you e-mail?

[argyle]

Did you call them? Or did you e-mail?

Email...I got tired of ringing the phone and never having it answered. The email response took a few days also.

[jdizzle]

To my surprise, my Lee Big Stopper is finally here. The quality is definitely bar none when it comes to Lee. I'll be posting images when I have time. :)

[jdizzle]

Just posting some samples of the filter itself.

http://DLImaging.zenfolio.com/img/s9/v13/p836391505-4.jpg
http://DLImaging.zenfolio.com/img/s9/v13/p715857098-4.jpg
http://DLImaging.zenfolio.com/img/s8/v9/p911600650-4.jpg

[argyle]

Boy, you really gotta rub it in, don't you? :D:D:D Sweet looking setup...

Still waiting here...looks like I'll be in the next batch to get delivered.

[Anke]

Nice pics, Julian. I should really get round to ordering one of these and stop sitting on my hands.

[jdizzle]

Boy, you really gotta rub it in, don't you? :D:D:D Sweet looking setup...

Still waiting here...looks like I'll be in the next batch to get delivered.
I wasn't trying to rub it in. Just merely showing the quality of the filter. ;):p
Nice pics, Julian. I should really get round to ordering one of these and stop sitting on my hands.
Thanks Anke. The price isn't bad to what some people thought initially. As soon as I get some time, I'll post some samples. :)

[Anke]

...
Thanks Anke. The price isn't bad to what some people thought initially. As soon as I get some time, I'll post some samples. :)

In Lee terms it's an absolute bargain!

[Sauchterlonie]

It is a bargain when you consider the fact that I've just had to pay £10 for two batteries for my electronic cable release to use the bloody thing!!!! I wasn't happy the the night when I went to use the 10stop and found out the batteries had died in my cable release :-(

Simon

[rvdw98]

I wasn't happy the the night when I went to use the 10stop and found out the batteries had died in my cable release :-(

My cable release doesn't need batteries. :D

Well, at least you always still have the camera's timer release.

[jdizzle]

It is a bargain when you consider the fact that I've just had to pay £10 for two batteries for my electronic cable release to use the bloody thing!!!! I wasn't happy the the night when I went to use the 10stop and found out the batteries had died in my cable release :-(

Simon
Lesson learned. Always check the cable release before shooting. ;)

[tunin]

I am so jealous, I've been on the waiting list since it was announced. :-( Show some photos pleaseeeee....

Just posting some samples of the filter itself.

http://DLImaging.zenfolio.com/img/s9/v13/p836391505-4.jpg
http://DLImaging.zenfolio.com/img/s9/v13/p715857098-4.jpg
http://DLImaging.zenfolio.com/img/s8/v9/p911600650-4.jpg

[dcreighton]

Hi all. This is my first post on this forum, and I don't post to a lot of forums in general. But in my search for online reviews of the Big Stopper I found this post and then subsequently decided to get one. After reading about all the trouble of finding this filter in stock (here and on other forums) I thought I'd have a hard time but surprisingly my local dealer (Allen's Camera 215-547-2841) had a bunch in stock and at a great price. I don't work for him or get a kick back but I'm a regular customer and if you mention my name it will be worth a chuckle next time I'm in there as he doubted me when I said that if others find out he'll be sold out in just days. I just drove in and picked mine up today. Good luck and I hope this doesn't break with forum rules.

[wintermutant]

I wouldn't say Lee has problems. They just can't keep up with the demand.

i beg to differ...there's no evidence any demand is being met at all right now...your argument would make sense if they were shipping product at a slow rate, but concerning the 77mm w/a adapter ring the evidence is that they're not producing at all right now...zero production = a problem...

i wish it were the case that it was just a problem with keeping up with demand, then i'd gladly sit in line and wait my turn, but the retailer i've been working with has said they've received none for months...not a trickle, but zero...same story at adorama, bh, etc...

[Jon]

Well, I just got part of a back-order of Lee stuff (.9 soft grad, 77 mm WA ring and 58 mm ring) from Adorama. Still waiting on the .6 hard. So I'd buy "can't keep up".

[jdizzle]

I am so jealous, I've been on the waiting list since it was announced. :-( Show some photos pleaseeeee....
Don't worry. I'll definitely make some time to post some images. :)

Hi all. This is my first post on this forum, and I don't post to a lot of forums in general. But in my search for online reviews of the Big Stopper I found this post and then subsequently decided to get one. After reading about all the trouble of finding this filter in stock (here and on other forums) I thought I'd have a hard time but surprisingly my local dealer (Allen's Camera 215-547-2841) had a bunch in stock and at a great price. I don't work for him or get a kick back but I'm a regular customer and if you mention my name it will be worth a chuckle next time I'm in there as he doubted me when I said that if others find out he'll be sold out in just days. I just drove in and picked mine up today. Good luck and I hope this doesn't break with forum rules.
Wow! That's a shocker! I'm surprised you even got one from your local dealer. Anyways, I hope to see some images from you. :)
i beg to differ...there's no evidence any demand is being met at all right now...your argument would make sense if they were shipping product at a slow rate, but concerning the 77mm w/a adapter ring the evidence is that they're not producing at all right now...zero production = a problem...

i wish it were the case that it was just a problem with keeping up with demand, then i'd gladly sit in line and wait my turn, but the retailer i've been working with has said they've received none for months...not a trickle, but zero...same story at adorama, bh, etc...
I don't know what to say really. It just makes sense that Lee can't keep up with the demand. Your best bet is to call Lee USA and find out if they can give you an answer on why they aren't producing the WA adapters. I would check ebay too since I do see adapter rings pop up all the time.

[jdizzle]

Well, I just got part of a back-order of Lee stuff (.9 soft grad, 77 mm WA ring and 58 mm ring) from Adorama. Still waiting on the .6 hard. So I'd buy "can't keep up".
I have to agree with you Jon. It took me two months to get this filter. After a few calls and nudging the retailer, I finally got it in my hands. :confused:

[jdizzle]

Just an FYI for those of you wanting this filter, I took a peek over at 2Filter and it looks like the price has gone up a bit to $147.40. I paid $134.40 USD.

http://www.2filter.com/Leefilters/LeeBigStopperFilter.html

[argyle]

Just an FYI for those of you wanting this filter, I took a peek over at 2Filter and it looks like the price has gone up a bit to $147.40. I paid $134.40 USD.

http://www.2filter.com/Leefilters/LeeBigStopperFilter.html

I placed my order just after you, at the original price. Hopefully, they'll honor it (but I'm not gonna hold my breath).