View Full Version : Help - bright arc on 300d images
puttick
13th of July 2005 (Wed), 12:55
I'm posting this for a colleague. She has a 300d and has taken hundreds of images in NZ, many of which have a bright arc running from top to botom of the frame. It has occurred with different lenses (18-55, 28-90 and 75-300), so is not an internal reflection from a slipped element. Presumably it's a problem on, at, or near the CCD. The camera is now with Canon NZ who have not yet sorted the problem but are refusing to honour her UK warranty (camera bought in the UK as a resident, then a career move to NZ).
I'm attaching two of the images (I've done a little tweaking to make the arc show up more clearly).
Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?
Would it be possible to fix in Photoshop?
Shouldn't Canon honour the warranty?
Thanks, Nigel
robertwgross
13th of July 2005 (Wed), 13:20
Could that be from a light leak?
If there were a round crack around the lens mount, wouldn't that make a problem like this?
The lens mount is about the only thing around the camera body that is round.
---Bob Gross---
Tom W
13th of July 2005 (Wed), 13:30
Good thought, Bob. The only thing I had thought of was the use of one of those filters with the silver ring, but that would reflect more on some shots than on others.
slin100
13th of July 2005 (Wed), 14:38
Dollars to donuts that it's a failing shutter.
Nolz
13th of July 2005 (Wed), 15:19
I have just been through a similar warranty issue with Canon Australia and my experience was very pleasant. I bought my camera overseas from a legitimate Canon dealer and I do have all associated paper work.
DSLR bodies do NOT carry an international warranty unlike their lenses and speedlites, and this was quite clearly stated on some of their paper work. Supposedly the reason for this is to discourage the purchasing of grey imports. So if she bought her camera from an English Canon dealer and it is a 300D that was designated for England. Along with the proof of purchase Canon NZ shouldn't be trying ot worm their way out of doing the repair work (providing its still under warranty) this is about discouraging the purchases from overseas retailers not avoiding repairing faults that are genuine warranty claims.
puttick
13th of July 2005 (Wed), 15:21
How would a failing shutter produce that arc?
slin100
13th of July 2005 (Wed), 16:30
AFAIK, all modern SLR shutters travel vertically in an arc. A hole in the shutter blade would, therefore, show up as an arc in the captured image. I've also seen this problem reported by others and, in most cases, it turned out to be a faulty shutter.
tim
13th of July 2005 (Wed), 16:51
It could just be the famous New Zealand "arc of light" following your friend around ;)
David1943
13th of July 2005 (Wed), 17:28
Sorry I can't help with the problem Nigel but I have to say I do like that second picture.
Regards, David :)
andygrif
13th of July 2005 (Wed), 17:31
Sorry I cannot help you on your problem either, but I would like to express my sympthies that such a wonderful shot (the seond one) is affected. Hope you were able to rescue it.
tim
13th of July 2005 (Wed), 17:34
Those shots should be able to be removed in photoshop without too much trouble, just a bit of cloning, or select then alter levels for that area.
Hellashot
13th of July 2005 (Wed), 17:37
I've had the same thing happen on my Drebel using different lenses, but I've only noticed it a couple times though it could have happened more without it being enough to show up.
slin100
13th of July 2005 (Wed), 17:54
I just remembered that the other common root cause was a failing secondary mirror. In those cases, the secondary mirror was not flipping up entirely and reflecting some stray light onto the sensor.
dale65bama
13th of July 2005 (Wed), 18:06
That's odd! The radius of the arcs seem to be different in the two pictures. If shutter moves in an arc, I would expect the arcs to be the same radius. I would lean more to internal reflections.
helenevans
14th of July 2005 (Thu), 03:17
Hello Everyone
The photos are mine and Nigel kindly posted them on my behalf while I registered.
I am very grateful for all the replies, especially the one suggesting an arc of light is following me around! :D
I am still waiting to hear from Canon NZ what they think is wrong. I must say they have been slower than slow and most unhelpful.
I will feed back when I have an answer.
Fingers crossed that this works :rolleyes:
Helen
mnfinnkidd
14th of July 2005 (Thu), 03:21
the pictures could have been resized differently causing a different arc size. So it still could be the shutter
tim
14th of July 2005 (Thu), 03:27
I have to think this is a technical fault that Canon should be able to fix. I find things are often achieved more quickly if you bug people, nicely, just to stop the annoying calls ;)
I still like the "arc of light is following you" theory best :)
puttick
14th of July 2005 (Thu), 15:22
Hellashot - can you post an example for comparison?
puttick
14th of July 2005 (Thu), 16:06
I've now had a go at correcting the damaged images - of course I was working on downsized, compressed versions as supplied. Once I'd worked out what to do, it wasn't too hard. For a uniform area (such as sky) I used the clone tool, set to 10% and a wide brush (45) then painted with it until it looked right. For the detailed areas, I used the burn tool, set to 5% and using it for shadows, midtones, or highlights according to what was predominant (e.g. the trees, clouds, or snow) and again painted with a large brush (40) until it looked right. It took about 3 minutes per photo, and I would admit they are not quite perfect, but not too bad either. Perhaps with some practice and persistence the best shots could be saved and converted to printable images.
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