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iancandler
13th of April 2010 (Tue), 21:52
I've had mine for a few weeks now and though my photography is limited these days due to my disability (the reason I had to get rid of the DSLR and move to a compact) I have still had plenty of fun.

I have however noticed a few short comings I didn't really expect in a camera in this price bracket (RRP £580 in the UK)

Some of these are glaring**to me but others just more suggestions for improvement.

The worst is Adobe, I think canon should give them a good hard kick about supporting its raw file format in all versions of photoshop and not just the latest, I was shocked to find CS3's version of camera raw doesn't and wont support the codec for the G11 and all newer camera's.
Currently short of shelling out another £200 + for CS4 or above upgrades, the only solution is to download the DNG converter which means downloading the images from the camera, converting and saving to DNG in another folder and then importing into camera raw. Long winded, time consuming and it clutters the hard drive.
I'm sorry but the canon software is fine for those that don't have photoshop but photoshop does eclipse it.

Ok here's the list.

fill in flash** - essential, especially for portraits, I was surprised it wasn't present.

F16** - Great macro mode but it needs to be able to be stopped down further.

B stop ** - Another essential left off, much needed for night and weather shots, its all very well being able to program in longish exposures but nothing beats B for lightning and star fields.

included hot shoe cover** - Absolutely gob smacked to find a naked hot shoe..its only a penny piece of plastic but it protects those expensive contacts well.

integral or clip on lens hood - Please, pretty please? terrible lens flare in direct bright sunlight .

Faster lens, F2.8 across the zoom range - Come on canon, you've done it before and at this price bracket its achievable.

programmable compensation dial so it can switch between ev compensation and flash compensation. - Now that would be really useful.

H.U.D in viewfinder - at least give us an AF box and AF confirmation please, the lack of either makes the viewfinder all but useless and just cosmetic, a nice etched frame would look really cool too. Remember there are some of us who bought the G11 for its retro look and feel as well as its pedigree and performance.
Not only that but its just about the only decent compact left that has an optical viewfinder, one of its main selling points as far as I was concerned, enough of one to sway me from a Panasonic or Olympus 4/3rds camera.

Overall I love the camera and will be looking with interest at the future of the G series.

Maybe a larger sensor? the more sensitive sensor was a smart move, those of us who use astro camera's learnt the hard and very expensive way that a more sensitive CCD with larger pixels will out perform a chip of the same size with smaller pixels as far as light gathering goes a long time ago now.

tmwag
14th of April 2010 (Wed), 17:06
The worst is Adobe, I think canon should give them a good hard kick about supporting its raw file format in all versions of photoshop and not just the latest, I was shocked to find CS3's version of camera raw doesn't and wont support the codec for the G11 and all newer camera's.
Currently short of shelling out another £200 + for CS4 or above upgrades, the only solution is to download the DNG converter which means downloading the images from the camera, converting and saving to DNG in another folder and then importing into camera raw. Long winded, time consuming and it clutters the hard drive.
I'm sorry but the canon software is fine for those that don't have photoshop but photoshop does eclipse it.

Well Adobe is not a Canon product. Upgrading Adobe ACR (5.6) is free and will convert raw files just fine. I did in PSE7. However, like you said DPP is more than adequate, especially for converting raw files. I think it does a better job

fill in flash** - essential, especially for portraits, I was surprised it wasn't present.

The hot shoe provides for a much better external flash

F16** - Great macro mode but it needs to be able to be stopped down further.

Doesn't deffraction come into play?


integral or clip on lens hood - Please, pretty please? terrible lens flare in direct bright sunlight.

Aftermarket, lensmate..shrug

Faster lens, F2.8 across the zoom range - Come on canon, you've done it before and at this price bracket its achievable.

Agree...like the S90

programmable compensation dial so it can switch between ev compensation and flash compensation. - Now that would be really useful.

That would be slick

its just about the only decent compact left that has an optical viewfinder, one of its main selling points as far as I was concerned, enough of one to sway me from a Panasonic or Olympus 4/3rds camera.

Just wish it covered 100% of the composition

Overall I love the camera and will be looking with interest at the future of the G series

Same

Maybe a larger sensor? .

I think that may be coming

iancandler
15th of April 2010 (Thu), 00:37
Camera raw 5.6 will only install for CS versions 4 and above, it wont install in CS3 and adobe are not releasing any more camera raw updates for camera raw 4 or adapting 5.6 to work on CS3.
It will also only work with PSE 7 , earlier versions are not supported.

Still no fill in flash available when using the hotshoe, but the argument is it should be available with the built in.

lens mate ones are a little bulky and fit on the thread adaptor, I'm thinking of something simpler that just clips on the existing lens.

rbil
16th of April 2010 (Fri), 14:21
I wish they would have made the camera just a little bit wider so that there was more spacing between the controls. A camera 3/4 or 1 inch wider wouldn't bother me as being too big. Just so much easier to handle.

Cheers,
Rene