thinking of getting a rebel

[Bosman]

and getting a Rebel the original not the XT.

What are the tradeoffs?

Is the lens that ships with the Rebel really "lesser" being it starts at f3.5 and doesn't have the same amount of "zoom". I probably won't add another lens for quite a while.

Will I need an add on flash (I use the 420ex) with my g6 to elinimate redeye and get more distance, the Rebel doesn't seem to have a redeye problem and throws further.

Will the Rebel perform better in low light with the increased ISO, the G6 works with the flash, but shouldn't the Rebel get me the same type of situations without a flash?

TIA for any further advice or things I have not covered.
The reason for the comtemplation is the Rebel is selling for $640 at butterfly.

[Tyger]

Hey Bosman,

Here's a comparison you can look at....

DR300D vs DRXT350D (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos300d%2Ccanon_eos350d&show=all)

also check out these thread that may answer your questions

Lenses http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=56752

Flash http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=46599 (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=46599)

I too will be getting the 300d next week and i'm new to photography so i can't really say much on the issue. One of the main reason why i'm going for the 300d is for one i can get a discounted price as i'm on a budget, so instead of spending a few extra dollars i'll use that money to get a better lense and a flash card as they don't come with one.

I guess what would help others answer your questions is to think about what mainly you will be using your camera for and what kind of out put are you aiming for?
good luck and looking forward to seeing some great pics!

[KevC]

You can get the 17-85 or the 18-55 with both the 300D and the 350D. You can put any (autofocus) lens from Canon on the Drebel or Drebel XT, so don't worry about that.

The 420EX is a nice flash, keep it. You don't want to be using the onboard flash, absolutely no control over it.

The 300D is a nice size, I like holding it. I demo'ed the 350D in the store, and it's a little small for me.

The 350D does far better at high ISO, but given that you expose properly, the 300D isn't too bad at 800.

There are tonnes of comparisons on this forum, check them out! I think the bottom line is, if you really want higher ISO performance, get the XT. If not, the 300D is fine!

[Bosman]

Thanks for the responses!

I prpbably didn't state it correctly, I would be going from a G6 to the Rebel

[Mr. Clean]

I'd really do your research on this, and do a lot of it outside of a 'Canon' forum (IE try to find something not biased). I took about a month of searching before I decided on the XT over the original Rebel. I think the difference in price is nominal for the gains. In addition, most of the functions you have to hack a Rebel for are standard on the XT. Your 420ex will also work great with the XT, it's what I use and I'd say anything is better than the standard pop up flash. Some people have concerns about the size of the XT, which is a valid concern if you're on the bigger side but it works fine. Whatever you do, DON'T SETTLE! Sell your G6 and use the extra money to buy the XT, that's my two cents for whatever it's worth!

[markubig]

I used to have a hacked 300D. My only complaint was the high ISO noise. so unless you want to spend time in post then go w/ the 350D. If you don't mind spending a little extra time in post, and have NR filters like Neat Image, Noiseware, or Noise Ninja, then go for the 300D. 300D is still a great camera.

[cfcRebel]

Hi Bosman,
I am currently a 300D user. I bought it 2 months before XT came to the market. I was seriously considering upgrading it from 300D to XT but later decided not to. The enhancement offered by XT is great but mostly it is something "nice-to-have" and not a "must-have" for me. So it depends on your style and priorities. The price difference between the two is approx. US$300. I would rather use the $300 to fund a better lens. And i agree with Kevin, XT is not as ergonomic as 300D.

The rebel 18-55 kit lens is a great lens for the money IMO. It's not razor sharp but i have had some great experience with it. Check my July 4th firework (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=83643)taken with the lens. No PP except some cropping and resizing.


I have used a G6 for a couple of occasions. It's a great camera but IMO 300D handles the noise better at higher ISO. I used the build-in flash on both though. As for low light situation w/o flash, you need a fast lens, such as f2.8, f1.8, f1.4.

Hope it helps. Good luck.

[jfrancho]

I think you'll find the big trade offs are speed and resolution. I have the 300D and love it. It was the perfect camera to become reaquainted with an SLR.

[Hellashot]

and getting a Rebel the original not the XT.

What are the tradeoffs?

Is the lens that ships with the Rebel really "lesser" being it starts at f3.5 and doesn't have the same amount of "zoom". I probably won't add another lens for quite a while.

Will I need an add on flash (I use the 420ex) with my g6 to elinimate redeye and get more distance, the Rebel doesn't seem to have a redeye problem and throws further.

Will the Rebel perform better in low light with the increased ISO, the G6 works with the flash, but shouldn't the Rebel get me the same type of situations without a flash?

TIA for any further advice or things I have not covered.
The reason for the comtemplation is the Rebel is selling for $640 at butterfly.

For the price you can't beat it for a dSLR. While Nikon is still selling 6MP dSLRs for a lot more. The XT is too small for most people but the Drebel is a good entry level body. The extra couple of hundred $ is worth getting the XT if you don't plan to replace the camera for 5 years though.