Sigma 8-16mm f/4.5-5.6 DC HSM

[rjx]

It's been released! So if you have one, please post you're samples here. :cool:

[XxDJCyberLoverxX]

Awesome! Can't wait to see pictures finally rolling for this lens! I'm planning to get mine in the next month or so!

[bokeh-loco]

Here some sample pics taken on my EOS 550D with new Sigma 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM. Enjoy!

[bokeh-loco]

But wait... there's more!

[gregkang]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4586357918_fd977307c0.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eventide/4586357918/)
Queen Anne, Seattle

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3129/4594912164_fe1f54a495.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eventide/4594912164/in/photostream/)
False Creek, Vancouver

Note that they were shrunk/sharpened.. I will upload originals later

[anhtimmy]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4586357918_fd977307c0.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eventide/4586357918/)
Queen Anne, Seattle

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3129/4594912164_fe1f54a495.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eventide/4594912164/in/photostream/)
False Creek, Vancouver

Note that they were shrunk/sharpened.. I will upload originals later

nice captures!

[karenfoto]

wooohaaa.. i'll get mine this month :) hope u'll show more pics :) i still think about 10-22 also, but yep, now i'm planning to get sigma.. its wideeee!

[matrix311]

subscribing - thanks for posting pictures! I almost pulled the trigger on this lens last week but I was one of the fortunate ones to get the tokina 11-16mm from B&H. If this lens changes my mind, i'll be selling my brand new Tokina to get this bad boy. Keep the pictures coming!

[jujew]

Rented this lens at a local shop over the weekend to see how I liked it. I snapped off 1k + shots at the Joe Martin Stage race. Once I can go through them I will post some good examples. I did get a sweet video that I will post the link to once it is up.

I'm excited to see other examples and the shots posted so far are ver nice!

[LEDZEPPALAN]

OH FLIPPING ECK!!!!
i just orderd 10-22, why didnt you post this last week....:confused:;)
those photos look stunning

[jujew]

Here are some of the photos I took with the lens last weekend. So far I really like it. 8mm is pretty freak'n wide, 10 to 16 is pretty nice. But wish it had the 2.8 like the Tokina.

Shot of the dog:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1041/4602243869_1eb090228a_b.jpg
Shot inside of my wife's CRV:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4602240971_eb8d3dc46b_b.jpg
Shot of me and my wife:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4602856852_9a296d6928_b.jpg
Shot of Joe Martin Stage Race:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/4602240135_a46d4b19d2_b.jpg
Again...
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1090/4602853348_c5128b32d2_b.jpg
Shot of Floyd Landis in green and white:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1223/4602261639_86ec0469bd_b.jpg

[quattroatl]

^^Those are fantastic shots!

[DiMAn0684]

This is so difficult....8mm or f/2.8....great shots so far from this lens.

[gkanetkar]

Wow.. Nice shots.. This lens is SHARP.

[XxDJCyberLoverxX]

This is so difficult....8mm or f/2.8....great shots so far from this lens.

That's my dilemma too. Adorama raised the price on the Tokina to $649, which makes the Sigma a bit more attractive too..!

[kent andersen]

Those pictures with the bicycles are selling pictures. And shows that autofocus is working on the Sigma.

Thanks for posting youre pictures here. It is really a hard choice between 8mm or f 2.8. I wonder if there is anyone with experience from both the Tokina and the Sigma?

I found some great shots with the sigma on Flickr today, also some test shots comparing with other lenses. Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/groups/1381252@N21/) Here is some other shots from flikcr: flickr2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/yilkee/)

[edwigetphotography]

I have uploaded several pics of the lens, test shots, and some recent downtown cincinnati ohio landscape shots to my flickr account too:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ewiget41056/

[Trevor04GT]

If I had APSC, this is what I would own!

[Craggles123]

More samples guys come on...

Make me buy this

[CyberDyneSystems]

8mm x 1.6x = 12.8!

This is insane wide! 35mm film cameras never had wider than 14mm!

So when do we see pics from 8mm on a 1.3x 1D? Anyone?

[Laudrup]

Didn't Nikon have a ridiculous looking 13mm lens in the 70s? This Sigma looks pretty good to me though, subscribing for future reference so keep the pics coming!

[powerslave]

I'm about to put down some cash for this thing.. I have used the 10-22 quite a bit and love it to death (don't own one though.)

Is this thing missing anything that I'll miss? I know it's a stop slower, but I can live with that.

[peterbj7]

I have their 12-24 for FF and am using it more and more. I'm sorely tempted to get this 8-16 for my forthcoming 7D.

[powerslave]

Someone's gonna have to post more pictures and convince me that I won't regret buying this over the 10-22.

Go on! :lol:

[gagakango]

Please post more pics! I know i won't rid myself of my Tok, but would love to have that extra 3mm wider!

[fedaykin]

Lens look nice...WANT.

[powerslave]

Pssh look what you guys did. Didn't post pictures, just went ahead and ordered me a nice 10-22. :lol:


The real reason for not buying the 8-16 is the filter issue + one stop slower than the 10-22.

[Sdiver2489]

Pssh look what you guys did. Didn't post pictures, just went ahead and ordered me a nice 10-22. :lol:


The real reason for not buying the 8-16 is the filter issue + one stop slower than the 10-22.

Don't know what filters one would really want to use with this...CPL will have uneven effect on the sky. Perhaps some people don't care though.

[Combatmedic870]

Don't know what filters one would really want to use with this...CPL will have uneven effect on the sky. Perhaps some people don't care though.


I would really want to put some ND's on it!! But it is pleanty possible. Attach to the hood(the same one the cap goes on).

[Sdiver2489]

I would really want to put some ND's on it!! But it is pleanty possible. Attach to the hood(the same one the cap goes on).

Completely forgot about that. Definitely a good point!

[powerslave]

I need to have a protective clear filter on anyway, apart from that the ND.

I knew there were ways to do it, but thought I'd stick with the Canon, with those rebates right now, the price is too tempting.. plus thinking about it a bit, I did care about the one stop in favor of the 10-22.

[KayakPhotos]

For those who might be interested....

Here (http://www.juzaphoto.com/eng/articles/sigma_8-16mm_review_vs_12-24.htm) is a review of this lens vs. the FF Sigma 12-24. I'm impressed.

[CW Jones]

It never ceases to amaze me at how fast people buy a newly released lens! Looks like people are really enjoying it too. Some great shots here

[Kiwikat]

I just ordered mine! Should be here on tuesday. :cool:

We have got to get some more photos up here. This lens should be a lot more popular than it is!

[BXPhoto]

Wow didnt know this exsisted. So glad I havent ordered my 10-20mm yet. Just found my new UWA...

[peterbj7]

I was going to keep my 12-24 as my UWA lens and use it on my 5D when I get my 7D. Now I think I'll sell it and get this lens to use on the 7D!

[bokeh-loco]

some more pics...

[bokeh-loco]

world's tallest palm tree...

[Kiwikat]

world's tallest palm tree...

That's really neat! :)

I can't wait to try that with trees that are actually tall... :lol:

[bokeh-loco]

That's really neat! :)

I can't wait to try that with trees that are actually tall... :lol:

Thanks... I would like to see some more tall trees (or buildings). Anyone living in Dubai with an EOS and Sigma 8-16 please take some photos of this one. :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Khalifa

[Kiwikat]

The three words we all like to see...

OSHKOSH, WI, US 06/22/2010 6:42 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY

Pics to come! :D:D:D

[Kiwikat]

I know it isn't great, but it is ducks!

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1264/4724598149_cc3a131e60_b.jpg

What a cool lens. I'm extremely happy with my purchase. Almost all my shots sucked though. There's a definite learning curve...

[jacobsen1]

8mm x 1.6x = 12.8!

This is insane wide! 35mm film cameras never had wider than 14mm!

sigma's 12-24mm works on film and has for quite a while now. ;)

[karenfoto]

I have one, and I love it :)

http://amperwroclaw.nazwa.pl/karen/gp5/images/1.jpg

http://amperwroclaw.nazwa.pl/karen/gp5/images/sig.jpg

[Kiwikat]

Here's some shots from my vacation...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4082/4740491919_b2607850df_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/4740391497_22d72174f3_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4741003696_855fac521c_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4740310891_1dd8ea2107_b.jpg

This lens has an insanely wide field of view at 8mm. I honestly can't believe how cool it is. There were a couple times I wished I could attach a polarizer or ND filter, but the ability to go as wide as 8mm was far more relevant.

Anyone still thinking about getting this one, do it! It is crazy fun! :D

[KayakPhotos]

The perspective this lens gives is truly amazing. Lenses like this make me question rather or not I really need to add a FF camera to my kit.

[Coppatop85]

What size is the filter thread that goes on this lens?

[msowsun]

I think I read somewhere that this lens does not accept filters.

[fedaykin]

I think I read somewhere that this lens does not accept filters.

Yup. I believe they can be attached to the hood cap thingie it comes with.

[Supersignet]

I think you can also put Gel filters in the back of the lens.

[Kiwikat]

Yup. I believe they can be attached to the hood cap thingie it comes with.

You can, but it would cause a lot of vignetting and could only be used at 14-16mm anyways, unless you don't mind the photo being chopped off by the cap ring.

[powerslave]

That is the reason why I jumped on to the 10-22 despite craving this lens so much.

[Coppatop85]

Does the tokina 11-16 take filters?

[Kiwikat]

Does the tokina 11-16 take filters?

Yes.

There were times on my vacation I wished I could use a polarizer, but the times I wanted to use 8mm far outnumbered them. 8mm is just crazy.

[msowsun]

All the reviews say you can't use filters of any kind with this lens. The tube that attaches to the front is only for mounting the lens cap.

[msowsun]

Does the tokina 11-16 take filters?

Yes, the Tokina 11-16 takes 77mm filters.

[Kiwikat]

All the reviews say you can't use filters of any kind with this lens. The tube that attaches to the front is only for mounting the lens cap.

You're right. I assumed that they were threaded but I see they aren't after looking.

There's no spot in the back for gel filters either.

[Coppatop85]

Yes, the Tokina 11-16 takes 77mm filters.

Hmm... I already have a bunch of 77mm filters. That may end up being my next lens, despite the wideness of this one. You can't underestimate how helpful a ND, GND, or CPL can be in getting the perfect shot, especially on landscapes. 8mm is tempting though...

[powerslave]

Yes.

There were times on my vacation I wished I could use a polarizer, but the times I wanted to use 8mm far outnumbered them. 8mm is just crazy.
For me it was more about the protective filter than the CP.

[wishlf]

Any QC issue with this lens?

[KayakPhotos]

Any QC issue with this lens?

It's a brand new lens, but I haven't heard of any. I have seen two reviews and they were both very positive. I tried one of these babies out at the local camera store and was quite impressed. The build is really nice (although the zoom ring was very stiff) and the lens was very sharp at all focal lengths I tried with great colors. I even took a little movie clip on a 7D that turned out nice.

[kobeson]

So apart from the extra 2mm, how does the IQ compare to the 10-22? Is it sharper to the edges? In the centre? Is there any CA?

I would probably be paranoid about the bulb protruding, but I am interested if the lens is sharper than the 10-22 - I am not quite ready to buy.

[Livinthalife]

I just let go of my 10-22, and am missing UWA (never realize how important something is till you sell it.) maybe this will be my next option! -2mm on the wide end, YEAH!

[powerslave]

I HAVE to ask, guys who own this lens (or are planning to), how do you keep the lens clean if you can't put filter on it, given how much it protrudes. Also, wouldn't reaching it's crevices be difficult?

[hsmoscout]

So when you shoot straight in front of you, how close are you to capturing your feet?

[bokeh-loco]

I HAVE to ask, guys who own this lens (or are planning to), how do you keep the lens clean if you can't put filter on it, given how much it protrudes. Also, wouldn't reaching it's crevices be difficult?

I generally keep the hood protector on most the time when walking around, sort of as a big lens cap. I even used a bit of contact cement to keep the lens cap from popping of the hood all the time.

[peterbj7]

The field of view and design of this lens are pretty similar to the 12-24 Sigma make for FF. I thought keeping that lens clean, especially in this corrosive atmosphere, would be a hassle, but in reality it's a non-issue. And with the lens pointing strictly horizontally my feet aren't in the image - quite.

[jacobsen1]

What size is the filter thread that goes on this lens?

it's like it's big brother the 12-24mm and "doesn't take filters", but you CAN use filters if you're creative:
http://gear.benjacobsenphoto.com/2010/accessories/filters-for-lenses-that-cant-take-filters/

I'm considering switching from FF to a 7D with this lens as this version is sharper than the 12-24mm I already love.

[wishlf]

I got this lens today. Tested out on D300S, looks like it's pretty good.
Ben, with the Nikon lenses you have, why 7D over D300S?

[Kiwikat]

I HAVE to ask, guys who own this lens (or are planning to), how do you keep the lens clean if you can't put filter on it, given how much it protrudes. Also, wouldn't reaching it's crevices be difficult?

I use a lenspen to keep mine clean. Works perfect! :)

[peterbj7]

Only for dry dirt. Down here (Belize) the air leaves a salty greasy residue on everything. I keep filters on all the lenses I can, and periodically (every three or four uses) I remove the filter and wash it in warm soapy water. You'd be amazed at the crud that comes off it even when it looked clean. As my Sigma can't take a filter I have to wet clean the lens, and I can tell you that I have to use several tissues. The first one often comes away black. And that's starting with no visible dirt at all.

An indication of how corrosive the atmosphere is is that stainless steel rusts, and electronic equipment deteriorates very quickly. A computer turned on occasionally may only last 6 months before dying terminally - which is why my laptop has been on permanently since I bought it last year. The heat prevents the humid salty air condensing inside.

[Overread]

it's like it's big brother the 12-24mm and "doesn't take filters", but you CAN use filters if you're creative:
http://gear.benjacobsenphoto.com/2010/accessories/filters-for-lenses-that-cant-take-filters/

I'm considering switching from FF to a 7D with this lens as this version is sharper than the 12-24mm I already love.

I was thinking it would have to be some sort of setup like that to work - I'm surprised sigma didn't try to produce some sort of filter holder or filter holder mount, given that filters and wide angle lenses are so commonly used together.

[peterbj7]

Can you imagine how enormous and costly a front-mounted filter would have to be? I agree it is a shame they didn't come up with a way of adding a rear-mounted filter, but the extra cost and bulk might have been prohibitive.

[Overread]

True but as shown above you can work a regular filter holder to fit the lens and allow filters - just seems odd that sigma didn't cotten onto that and make something that directly fitted the lens. At the moment that seems to be the only downside to this lens.

However I would be interested to see how well it performs with extension tubes and if the curved front element causes any strange effects/problems there.

[kobeson]

The only reason I am thinking about getting the Canon 10-22 over the Sigma 8-16 is the fact it can have filters mounted. I don't like the idea of a lens worth that much being exposed while shooting, I remember my WA conversion lens for my FZ50 used to get ocean spray and dust on it from time to time, I don't want to have to clean the Sigma bulb.

[Supersignet]

The front element on the lens is usually pretty hard glass and not the easiest to scratch or mark up. Sure it gets dirty from time to time, but so does everything else. You just have to careful about how you clean it.

Even my lenses that take filters never wear them....something about cheap glass infornt of my lenses I just don't like...

[fedaykin]

The front element on the lens is usually pretty hard glass and not the easiest to scratch or mark up. Sure it gets dirty from time to time, but so does everything else. You just have to careful about how you clean it.

Even my lenses that take filters never wear them....something about cheap glass infornt of my lenses I just don't like...

It doesn't need to be cheap glass.....

A high quality filter the likes of say a top of the line B&W or Hoya filter, multicoated of course, should not degrade picture quality in any noticeable way. Flare is a concern, but the multicoating is designed to reduce that.

[kobeson]

I have UV filters on all my lenses, if only for the protection. Of course I wouldn't put a cheap filter on an expensive lens, but I would definitely want one on an $800+ (AUD) lens!

[msowsun]

I just bought a $2500 lens because of it's IQ. Even a $200 expensive piece of "protection" glass is going to effect it in some way, so it always goes naked.

[rjx]

It's not just about protective filters. To me that's not very important. Just be smart about where and how you are using the lens and keep you're hood on. Everything should be fine.

But my concern is not being able to use a ND 10 stop filter for daytime exposures in the 6-7 minute range. Whatever UWA I would use needs the ability to fit a ND 10.

[Combatmedic870]

Ummmmm, You can mount an ND10 on the 8-16...the filters mount on the hood.

[fedaykin]

Ummmmm, You can mount an ND10 on the 8-16...the filters mount on the hood.

Won't that cause vignetting?

[peterbj7]

SEVERE vignetting? And considerable loss of IQ, as the light will no longer be striking the front element at the expected angle.

[msowsun]

Ummmmm, You can mount an ND10 on the 8-16...the filters mount on the hood.

There is no way to mount anything on the hood. Are you thinking about the two piece attachment that has a push on lens cap? That won't help you either.

[peterbj7]

I don't know the 8-16 but I have the 12-24. If you try to take a picture with the lens cap removed but the removable hood still in place you will get the most appalling vignetting. A reason why some people cement the lens cap to the removable hood so both have to be removed together.

[JohnAdams]

Amazing lens

[peterbj7]

The front element on the lens is usually pretty hard glass and not the easiest to scratch or mark up. Sure it gets dirty from time to time, but so does everything else. You just have to careful about how you clean it

Depends where you live. On this Caribbean island a lens has to be wet cleaned after EVERY use, which is why I use a filter whenever possible. Sadly these XWA Sigmas can't be protected in that way, and all this wet cleaning has to take its toll eventually.

[slartibardfast]

mine arrives tomorrow :D
camera already fo a bit of a blitz :D :D :D

Andy

[Kiwikat]

mine arrives tomorrow :D
camera already fo a bit of a blitz :D :D :D

Andy

Have fun! Be sure to post some shots.

Pics or it never happened! :D

[zincozinco]

Won't that cause vignetting?

Ben has a great tutorial for those who want to fit filters on this lens. go to New School of Photography

[Geoff_Shawcross]

I think someone actually posted a video link about that somewhere earlier in this thread.....can't remeber which page at the moment, but I did book mark it. So here it is again. :)

CLICK HERE FOR LINK TO FILTER VIDEO (http://gear.benjacobsenphoto.com/2010/accessories/filters-for-lenses-that-cant-take-filters/)

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[mmcguire]

Just got back from a vacation on the coast. Here is a shot I took with the Sigma 8-16mm. Shot in jpg straight from the camera.

http://photos.mattmcguire.com/Landscapes/Pajaro-Dunes/IMG0728/935807182_xjFVD-L.jpg

8mm - f4.5 - ISO 160 - 1/3200

[fedaykin]

Just got back from a vacation on the coast. Here is a shot I took with the Sigma 8-16mm. Shot in jpg straight from the camera.

http://photos.mattmcguire.com/Landscapes/Pajaro-Dunes/IMG0728/935807182_xjFVD-L.jpg

8mm - f4.5 - ISO 160 - 1/3200

Those settings make no sense for a landscape shot.....

[power_play21]

Those settings make no sense for a landscape shot.....

It sure froze the miniscule waves and weeds! ;)

I would have stopped the lens down, used ISO 100 and 1/500 ss would have been enough :)

[fedaykin]

It sure froze the miniscule waves and weeds! ;)

I would have stopped the lens down, used ISO 100 and 1/500 ss would have been enough :)

Exactly, I would have done to f/16.

[bokeh-loco]

Those settings make no sense for a landscape shot.....

Looks like the camera may have been in full auto there. I think the camera detects the wind speed so knows when to use 1/3200 shutter. :D

[gagakango]

The one thing i have found with my tokina is it begs to have some thing in the forground.

[powerslave]

Looks like the camera may have been in full auto there. I think the camera detects the wind speed so knows when to use 1/3200 shutter. :D

I get a feeling that's where the camera companies will be headed once they conquer video and high iso. :lol:

[mmcguire]

Those settings make no sense for a landscape shot.....

Do you dislike the shot or the settings in which it was taken?

[mmcguire]

Looks like the camera may have been in full auto there.

Nope, aperture priority.

[fedaykin]

Do you dislike the shot or the settings in which it was taken?

It would would be an excellent shot if taken with a slower shutter speed. the 1/3200 speed freezes everything, a little more motion would be more appealing for the scene. IMO

[RickRandhawa]

Any more pictures guys?

[jacobsen1]

Ben, with the Nikon lenses you have, why 7D over D300S?

I'm a canon guy I guess. The D700 is a GREAT camera, don't get me wrong, but the nikon tax wore me down. The 24G was $2200 and just too much for me. So I wanted to switch back, and I wanted to keep 8fps. That meant either a 1 series or the 7D and I don't like the bulk of the 1 series so 7D it is.... It's a GREAT little camera.

I'm surprised sigma didn't try to produce some sort of filter holder or filter holder mount, given that filters and wide angle lenses are so commonly used together.

they did, it's called the 10-20mm. ;)

I agree it is a shame they didn't come up with a way of adding a rear-mounted filter, but the extra cost and bulk might have been prohibitive.

weird, the 12-24mm DG version takes rear gels. They're a PITA, but the holder is there.

The one thing i have found with my tokina is it begs to have some thing in the forground.

yep, if you're going to shoot this wide, get right up on top of something in the forground, then make sure you have a decent background to go with it...

[Overread]

they did, it's called the 10-20mm. ;)


hehe nopes not now - Lee filters apparently will be making them at some point (currently making them for the 12-24mm with plans forother wide angle "no filter" lenses)

[jacobsen1]

^ have they officially announced the 12-24 support? If they do that, the lenses are so similar they will do this. But lee was snubbing their nose at the 12-24mm last I checked (in a nikon 14-24mm thread on dpreview). Their kit is sooooo expensive though, I'd make my own all over again with the cokins over getting the lee I think. It does look well built though, but almost overbuilt?

[Overread]

Last I checked their site the filter for the 12-24mm was coming out in late July. I think that they probably snubbed it because it was a highly popular lens that didn't fit their product line - so they had to shell out research and development csots before they could get back into the market

[Skraap]

Just ordered this lens!
I hope it will be here before I travel to Prague sunday!

[gagakango]

Just ordered this lens too, should be here Friday!

[gagakango]

Got it, lots of fun. Have to work lots but should be able to post a pic or two before Monday

[Skraap]

I just got my lens today as well!
My experience so far is extremely good, it is a very sharp lens, even wide open and it renders colors really beautifully and contrast full. I will be uploading some pictures if not tomorrow then in a week when I have been to Praha.

[mj_photo]

Samples, samples, this thread is worthless without samples.

[gagakango]

k, trying to put a pic up. haven't done this many times so it might take a few times and may have to be re-sized?

[gherrry]

ehhh. . . I kinda want it. . . but... i think i still want the sigma 10mm fish. Maybe i'll change my mind...err maybe not. I'M SOOOOO CONFUSED.

[alann]

Sold some itmes and will be ordering mine next friday along with a 100 macro. Real wide and real close!

[gagakango]

vacation pic

[peterbj7]

I'm a bit puzzled. Isn't a lens' angular coverage totally defined by its focal length? Given two lenses with the same focal length, but one described as "fish eye" and the other not, what will be the difference in the images?

[Overread]

The difference is that fisheye lens will have a curved distortion to the resulting photo - giving that fisheye effect - whilst the 8-16mm uses a different set of optics to try and reduced that curved fisheye effect.
Also physically whilst the 8-16mm has a curved front element I believe that most fisheye lenses will have an even greater amount of curvature to their front elements.

[peterbj7]

I hear that, but if (???) the coverage is the same then I could happily do without the distortion.

[Overread]

Exactly - fisheye is not an effect everyone wants nor desires in their shots. So in your case the 8-16mm would be a far preferable wide angle lens tool than an 8mm (or similar) fisheye lens. However fisheye has managed to corner its own creative market and thus there are a range of fisheye lenses on the market for those that want the fisheye effect

[Musicmanof76]

Has anyone used this lens on a 5D MKII?

[vishnu]

vacation pic

Nice pic

[tundraman]

I really like this lens. It is VERY sharp and VERY wide. Filters or not, I can make it do what I want it to.

http://www.thewhitehousefamilyonline.com/Photography/Landscape/NovMacroLandscape-0889/1080577179_DRxBU-X2.jpg

[tundraman]

More:


http://www.thewhitehousefamilyonline.com/Photography/Landscape/NovMacroLandscape-0871/1080511650_AB4GZ-X2.jpg

http://www.thewhitehousefamilyonline.com/Photography/Landscape/NovMacroLandscape-0864-2/1080542767_GUUbP-X2.jpg
http://www.thewhitehousefamilyonline.com/Photography/Landscape/NovMacroLandscape-0879/1080483167_xMc9T-X2.jpg
http://www.thewhitehousefamilyonline.com/Photography/Landscape/NovMacroLandscape-0896/1080446199_AjmxK-X2.jpg

[rjx]

Nice images!

[nathan96]

Couple

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4089/5014554622_a5d339b0b8.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1100/5135098261_e445bd55e1.jpg

[alwaySleepy]

Awesome lens. Def a strong contestant for my UWA though no filters and being slower is not so appealing. Anyone have some good night shots with these lens?

[buggz]

Is there distortion correction for this lens in CS5 yet?

[SeverianTL]

Is there distortion correction for this lens in CS5 yet?

Yes. ACR 6 and LR 3 support all current Sigma lenses. Here's the press release: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/news/adobe-systems-incorporateds-image-processing-software-compatibility-announcement. Also noteworthy is that Sigma (as opposed to Canon and Nikon) worked directly with Adobe to produce the profiles based on lens design data.

Lens Profile Correction works very well for this lens. The lens has serious barrel distortion at 8mm as well as mustache distortion. LPC removes it essentially completely. I won't rehash stuff I posted in another forum, but the interested can check out my mini review at DPR (LINK) (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1029&message=35519568) that I posted 5 or 6 months ago.

One should use the LPC for 8 to 9mm images with caution if you use LR 3. I find that there is a noticeable performance hit when Lightroom has to make serious profile corrections. It seems as if the LPC module is a little buggy in LR. I haven't heard of that problem in ACR/CS5, but I'm still using CS4 so I have no personal experience. Also the corrections will cause you to lose some of the image in the extreme corners when you shoot really wide. Therefore, I only use the LPC for this lens when I'm shooting something with lots of straight lines running parallel to the long edge of the frame.

[SeverianTL]

A few from the roof of my building, plus one from an adjacent building about 180 ft closer to the ground. All on a 7D. (Note that these images have been photobucket-ized and ended up a darker and more saturated than intended. Acceptable nonetheless.)

1.Yeah, I'm really that tall. With teeny tiny feet. :p
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-1.jpg

2. 8mm, f/8, 1/125s
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-2.jpg

3. 8mm, f/8, 1/160s
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-3.jpg

4. 9mm, f/5, 25s
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-4.jpg

5. 8mm, f/11, 30s, pulled down about 2/3 EV in post
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-5.jpg

6. 16mm, f/11, 10s
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-7.jpg

7. 14mm, f/8, 1/200s
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-8.jpg

[quattroatl]

^^Most impressive!!!!

[SeverianTL]

1 -- 3, the JFK Library & Museum. 4 & 5, the Christian Science Plaza.

1. 8mm, f/8, 1/400s. LPC, straightened, and moderately cropped.
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-11.jpg

2. 8mm, f/8, 1/400s, slight crop, lpc (I think)
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-12.jpg

3. 8mm, f/8, 1/400s
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-13.jpg

4. 16m, f/8, 1/400s
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-9.jpg

5. 13mm, f/8, 1/200s, straightened, lpc
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-10.jpg

[SeverianTL]

>quattroatl

Thanks. This lens is really fun to use, though if you use it a lot, it kinda messes with your brain when you go back to a lens with a more normal perspective.

[alwaySleepy]

A few from the roof of my building, plus one from an adjacent building about 180 ft closer to the ground. All on a 7D. (Note that these images have been photobucket-ized and ended up a darker and more saturated than intended. Acceptable nonetheless.)

1.Yeah, I'm really that tall. With teeny tiny feet. :p
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-1.jpg

2. 8mm, f/8, 1/125s
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-2.jpg



3. 8mm, f/8, 1/160s
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-3.jpg

4. 9mm, f/5, 25s
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-4.jpg

5. 8mm, f/11, 30s, pulled down about 2/3 EV in post
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-5.jpg

6. 16mm, f/11, 10s
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-7.jpg

7. 14mm, f/8, 1/200s
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Sigma_8-16mm_Samples1024px-8.jpg

Beautiful!!!!! Esp like the intersection shot with the city background.

[yagger]

how are you guys finding the use of this lens without being able to use any filters.
i currently own the 10-20 f3.5 version, and would love to replace it with this.

ps- ive never used any filters so i dont know what im missing out on.

[jacobsen1]

^ if you've never used filters why not go for it?

but even so, YOU CAN USE FILTERS, you just have to hand hold them or get creative with a holder/adapter: http://www.benjacobsenphoto.com/2010/gear/filters-for-lenses-that-cant-take-filters/
I'm not sure if this lens needs 4x6s or the X-pros (bigger)... If one of you guys wanted to test that it'd be great info to know. All you do is cut a piece of paper to 4x6 (or use and index card/post card) and hold it in front of the lens, right up against the hood's pedals. If you can see ONLY paper through the viewfinder it'll work as a filter basically.

[yagger]

^ if you've never used filters why not go for it?

but even so, YOU CAN USE FILTERS, you just have to hand hold them or get creative with a holder/adapter: http://www.benjacobsenphoto.com/2010/gear/filters-for-lenses-that-cant-take-filters/
I'm not sure if this lens needs 4x6s or the X-pros (bigger)... If one of you guys wanted to test that it'd be great info to know. All you do is cut a piece of paper to 4x6 (or use and index card/post card) and hold it in front of the lens, right up against the hood's pedals. If you can see ONLY paper through the viewfinder it'll work as a filter basically.

^ does anyone mind testing this out and letting us know please?

[jacobsen1]

this part specifically:
I'm not sure if this lens needs 4x6s or the X-pros (bigger)... If one of you guys wanted to test that it'd be great info to know. All you do is cut a piece of paper to 4x6 (or use and index card/post card) and hold it in front of the lens, right up against the hood's pedals. If you can see ONLY paper through the viewfinder it'll work as a filter basically.

[SeverianTL]

No problem, men. No problem. You need but ask nicely. ;)

Wasn't paying much attention when I did this, so actually tested with a smaller 5 x 4 instead of a 6 x 4. Same difference, i.e., none. Cut the paper, held up to lens: no fingers to be seen!

Proof: Blue sky seen through a 5" x 4" piece of white paper @ 8mm
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20101111-_MG_6878.jpg

Guess what, you can go smaller. But not hand held. Here is a shot @ 8mm of the sky seen through a piece of 4" x 3" paper pressed against a window by the built-in lens hood. Fingers would have been seen if it was hand held.
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20101111-_MG_6884.jpg

http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20101111-_MG_6888.jpg

http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20101111-Merged6868and6869.jpg

The lens cap adapter dimensions: outer diameter = 3 1/32" = 77mm; thickness =1 1/32" = 26.2mm; inner diameter varies due to a lip that limits its travel, but the end where the cap clicks in is threaded and will accept a 72mm filter. ^Above^ you see the adapter nestled atop the threads of a 77mm ring. [Note that in the photo above I'm merely demonstrating that my measurements are correct and the OD of the cap adapter is 77mm. The threaded part of the adapter is 72mm.]
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20100520-_MG_5657-1.jpg
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20100516-_MG_4780.jpg
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20100516-_MG_4784.jpg

There is only a 1/32" gap between the focus ring and the bottom of the adapter. If you remove the retaining ring inside the adapter and slide it down further on the hood, you will impinge on the focus ring.

[SeverianTL]

Just in case you might be thinking ... "Hmmm, I don't really need jacobsen1's MacGyver-like tricks (http://www.benjacobsenphoto.com/2010/gear/filters-for-lenses-that-cant-take-filters/). I can just attach a 72mm filter directly to the lens cap adapter." Well, think again. You really do need to do something like Ben Jacobsen demonstrates in his video.

Here's what happens when you attach filters directly to the lens.

Lens with adapter attached sans filter @ 16mm. A little vignetting but not bad.
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20100520-_MG_5724.jpg

Same scenario with filter.
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20100520-_MG_5719.jpg

@ 8mm w/o filter
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20100520-_MG_5722.jpg

@ 8mm with filter
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20100520-_MG_5721.jpg

As you can see, not very pleasant!

[titirez]

Hello! I love this lens!

[scorpio_e]

Just in case you might be thinking ... "Hmmm, I don't really need jacobsen1's MacGyver-like tricks (http://www.benjacobsenphoto.com/2010/gear/filters-for-lenses-that-cant-take-filters/). I can just attach a 72mm filter directly to the lens cap adapter." Well, think again. You really do need to do something like Ben Jacobsen demonstrates in his video.

Here's what happens when you attach filters directly to the lens.

Lens with adapter attached sans filter @ 16mm. A little vignetting but not bad.
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20100520-_MG_5724.jpg

Same scenario with filter.
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20100520-_MG_5719.jpg

@ 8mm w/o filter
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20100520-_MG_5722.jpg

@ 8mm with filter
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20100520-_MG_5721.jpg

As you can see, not very pleasant!


How are you adjusting for the black areas on the wide end since the image is in the center?
Lightroom ?

[SeverianTL]

How are you adjusting for the black areas on the wide end since the image is in the center?
Lightroom ?

Didn't do anything since these were intended as examples of what not to do. Shot raw and processed in LR 2.7 or 3.0. I uploaded these to photobucket in early June; I can't remember which version of LR I was using at the time. Anyway, default LR settings and resized and exported directly to photobucket.

[scorpio_e]

Hmmm What you have with the barrel look is what I am getting. The only way I do not get the vignette is going all the way to 16mm. Just got the lens yesterday so I do not have any done in post processed yet.

[scorpio_e]

DUH.....Maybe I should have read the manual. I guess I did the what NOT to do !!Partially removing the lens cap does NOT work !!

[quattroatl]

Hello! I love this lens!


Great image!

[KayakPhotos]

Does this lens come with the new Sigma finish? I'm really considering it for UWA.

[SeverianTL]

I got this lens very early, basically as soon as I saw the glowing review from Photozone. At that time, early May, it had the old finish. I have no idea what finish it has now.

[titirez]

thanks quattroatl

[jacobsen1]

Just in case you might be thinking ... "Hmmm, I don't really need jacobsen1's MacGyver-like tricks (http://www.benjacobsenphoto.com/2010/gear/filters-for-lenses-that-cant-take-filters/). I can just attach a 72mm filter directly to the lens cap adapter." Well, think again. You really do need to do something like Ben Jacobsen demonstrates in his video.

thanks, you're the man! So I'm 99.9% certain 4x5 (hitech) GNDs will work with this, now I just need to sell my 10-22 and order one, then get some parts to play with (spare cowl and whatever ring size fits it?)....

[nathan96]

Guess what, you can go smaller.
http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/daPriceIs/Product_Shots/Photo_Gear/Sigma_8-16mm/Filters/20101111-_MG_6888.jpg


Well done, thanks for the effort, we tried to get here in another thread but didn't

One question though (Ben you might want to wait before you jump in and buy it)

Did you use the piece of paper as shown (landscape) or its usual way (portrait) as GNDs wont work the way you have the piece of paper in this photo.

Now I have this lens myself I can test it tonight.