FIRST PLANES!

[jack lumber]

And my first post in this section.
These were shot at Palm Springs California. Conditions were not ideal, there was a fierce wind blowing. C,C and I.D,s welcomed!

1
http://bobthetog.smugmug.com/Other/TRAINS-BOATS-AND-PLANES/AIRCRAFT/872128293_dSv6E-X2.jpg

2

http://bobthetog.smugmug.com/Other/TRAINS-BOATS-AND-PLANES/AIRCRAFT/872144481_SNLao-X2.jpg

3
http://bobthetog.smugmug.com/Other/TRAINS-BOATS-AND-PLANES/AIRCRAFT/872146186_YTBAB-X2.jpg

4

http://bobthetog.smugmug.com/Other/TRAINS-BOATS-AND-PLANES/AIRCRAFT/872135685_dmN2m-X2.jpg

5

http://bobthetog.smugmug.com/Other/TRAINS-BOATS-AND-PLANES/AIRCRAFT/872142624_panUB-X2.jpg

[Aviation Junkie]

Not bad! You'll probably catch some flack for the minimal prop blur. Try using a slower shutter speed, 1/250 or lower. I'm really liking the first one. Nice and sharp!

Welcome to transportation and keep posting!

[jack lumber]

Cheers m8, I figured the lack of prop blur was a mistake, Im used to shooting B.I.F with 1000+s,s.

[Rivman]

. . . except for choice of shutter speed, they are all pretty good ! ;)

[JAAD]

I love the look of these plans....great work!

[altitude604]

hehe was going to mention the prop arc as well.

1/250 is good for aircraft in flight or under higher power settings... when in taxi or idle you can drop it lower to about 1/125 or so.

i have shot as low as 1/60 as well. sometimes you can get a nice full arc if the props have their tips painted and the light hits it right.

[jack lumber]

Thanks folks, lower shutter speed it is for next time. (unless I'm shooting jets)
Can anyone I.D. these for me perleeze.

[Desertraptor]

Nice set
No.1 for sure

[Aviation Junkie]

They all appear to be Beechcraft T-34 Mentors.

[jack lumber]

Thanks for the i.D., I can sleep easy tonite!

[jack lumber]

What a wondrous tool the internet is, I found the very same plane (and pilot) in image 1 here:D


www.warbirdalley.com/ (http://www.warbirdalley.com/)

[PhotosGuy]

Sorry, but in the "Share" areas IMAGE POSTING RULES (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=74718) only allow 2 attachments by the OP per thread, OR 8 embedded (linked) images, OR a combination of both totaling 8. (Maximum 1024 pixels on any side.) You can always just post a link to more, though, or better yet, post a link to a gallery so we don't have to click on each image link.
Some exceptions are group threads, like "Show Me...", "Post your best...", equipment reviews, Tutorials, etc.
You may add a few additional photos if requested, but only in a reply to other member's post and request.

[tkerr]

Cheers m8, I figured the lack of prop blur was a mistake, Im used to shooting B.I.F with 1000+s,s.

Great shots!

IMHO, I wouldn't let the lack of prop blur bother you too much. I'm finding that getting the prop blur isn't always easy. Especially during face paced action of an air show, and, when using a long focal length lens on fast moving aircraft in the bright mid-day Sunlight.

I tried Saturday at the Cherry Point Air show. It's too easy to overexpose those nice shiny bright colored or chrome airplanes with the Sun nearly directly overhead. Or if you do get a good prop blur you risk motion blur of the aircraft.

I've been finding that a real tough one is the V22 Osprey and Helicopter with slower moving rotors. Maybe if I had a good ND filter I could do it without overexposing the planes themselves.

[jack lumber]

Sorry, but in the "Share" areas IMAGE POSTING RULES (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=74718) only allow 2 attachments by the OP per thread, OR 8 embedded (linked) images, OR a combination of both totaling 8. (Maximum 1024 pixels on any side.) You can always just post a link to more, though, or better yet, post a link to a gallery so we don't have to click on each image link.
Some exceptions are group threads, like "Show Me...", "Post your best...", equipment reviews, Tutorials, etc.
You may add a few additional photos if requested, but only in a reply to other member's post and request.
OOps, my bad, never was one for reading rules, please feel free to bin the thread M8.

[Aviation Junkie]

Great shots!

IMHO, I wouldn't let the lack of prop blur bother you too much. I'm finding that getting the prop blur isn't always easy. Especially during face paced action of an air show, and, when using a long focal length lens on fast moving aircraft in the bright mid-day Sunlight.

I tried Saturday at the Cherry Point Air show. It's too easy to overexpose those nice shiny bright colored or chrome airplanes with the Sun nearly directly overhead. Or if you do get a good prop blur you risk motion blur of the aircraft.

I've been finding that a real tough one is the V22 Osprey and Helicopter with slower moving rotors. Maybe if I had a good ND filter I could do it without overexposing the planes themselves.

As far as using a slower shutter speed and over exposure goes, you could combine a slower shutter speed with a lower ISO and that might help/reduce the overexposure. I found that 100 ISO allows a slower shutter speed without risking too much if any overexposure. Wish I had something for the motion blur of the aircraft though.

[tkerr]

As far as using a slower shutter speed and over exposure goes, you could combine a slower shutter speed with a lower ISO and that might help/reduce the overexposure. I found that 100 ISO allows a slower shutter speed without risking too much if any overexposure. Wish I had something for the motion blur of the aircraft though.

I tried a few with ISO 100 and a smaller aperture(slower f/stop). With the sun directly overhead, and the reflection off the fuselage, I was getting some blur but they were still comming out too bright. I was able to get some prop blur on a couple pictures when the planes were lower, and I had a darker background other than the bright blue sky.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i39/Tim_Kerr/2010%20CPNC%20Air%20Show/CPAS-2010-026.jpg

Once the airshow really got going I wasn't too worried about it. The pace of the action was so fast, and there were so many opportunities to take pictures that I didn't really take time to make manual adjustments other than focal length. I just left the camera at ISO 200, f/8 and in AV Mode.

I do still want to get a ND filter for this lens and try that one of these days.

[PhotosGuy]

I was getting some blur but they were still comming out too bright. I was able to get some prop blur on a couple pictures when the planes were lower, and I had a darker background other than the bright blue sky. This is why I recommend using manual. The actual light on them didn't change, did it? Only the background was different. ;) There's a bit on airshows in this:
Need an exposure crutch? (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=89123) do still want to get a ND filter for this lens and try that one of these days.
Since you do a lot of BIF, maybe a CP would be a good choice. It only requires a 2X exposure change, but would add some density to the sky in some of your bird pics, too.

[tkerr]

This is why I recommend using manual. The actual light on them didn't change, did it? Only the background was different. ;) There's a bit on airshows in this:
Need an exposure crutch? (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=89123) Since you do a lot of BIF, maybe a CP would be a good choice. It only requires a 2X exposure change, but would add some density to the sky in some of your bird pics, too.

Thanks for that link, I bookmarked it for reference.

I've got a CP for that lens that I do use occassionally. Works great, when I use it. But it sure is a PIA to use when I use the lens shade.

I tried a handfull of shots to try and get prop blur on the V22 Osprey. Full Manual, ISO 100, f/9, and tried various shutter speeds. With only little change to the backgrounds which still looked pretty good, it was the aircraft fuselage that was all blown out because the bright sun on the light gray surface, and still only got a little blur. It wasn't so bad that I could fix it in PS, but if I wanted to get more prop blur on that airplane I would have totally blown it out.

[PhotosGuy]

it was the aircraft fuselage that was all blown out because the bright sun on the light gray surface, Sometimes you need to make the judgment call on what you allow to blow out. Some highlights aren't important?
And shooting RAW gives us some extra latitude, too. Here's an old thread with a lot of links for help: "Contrast Control" Tutorial (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39702)