Sigma 85mm f/1.4 EX DG HSM

[Invertalon]

I figure since the lens release is right around the corner, it is time to start the archive!

So as they roll in, this is the place to show those photos!

Can't wait to see this lens in action :D

[JelleVerherstraeten]

I'm subscribing to!!
If this lens is good, this lens could save me some money over the 85L. I hope it does :-).

[Johnyjohn]

I also think so that it would be able to save a lot of money for my pocket as well.

[lukeap69]

If it is near as good as the keg, why not...

[Apollo11]

I've got one on order.

[JelleVerherstraeten]

It's in stock in my local store, but I'm going to wait on the reviews of it.

It sells for 899 euro with 3 years of warranty.

[samurairx7]

can't wait to see some samples here

[7Ddame]

It's in stock in my local store, but I'm going to wait on the reviews of it.

It sells for 899 euro with 3 years of warranty.

get it *pokes with stick*

[Project22a]

Anyone? I figured this lens would be a hot seller!

[cattalk124]

I'll be buying it in a couple of months but would love to see reviews first(sports!)

[ChromeThunder]

Anyone? I figured this lens would be a hot seller!

Adorama is reporting that deliveries will begin in July, and B&H appears to not have it listed on their website as of yet.

[Dean Rachwitz]

Looking forward to seeing some samples myself, though I'll be buying the Nikon version. :cool:

[doubledragon]

getting my popcorn ready for this one.

[Supersignet]

subscribed

[kenettson1]

subscribed

[7Ddame]

Adorama is reporting that deliveries will begin in July, and B&H appears to not have it listed on their website as of yet.

c'mon - somebody had to have ordered this sucker!

I am dying to see if it comes anywhere neeeear the keg

[Sven-EOS]

Subscribing.

[Jason C]

Not subscribed...Sigma's and me don't mix. 0 for 4.

Jason C

[sebr]

Tired of waiting for this lens to be released...

[spacetime]

Damnit, I though there'd be two pages of photos only to find out there's none and people are just subscribing to the thread. Guess this post isn't helping matters though. :)

[Combatmedic870]

When is this lens going to show its face?!?!?

[banpreso]

i think something went seriously wrong with the design of this lens. just my guess, with the recent sigma recalls on their new lenses, they probably found a problem they're trying to fix before this is released.

[Shadowblade]

If it's anything like the 85L but with faster AF (not hard), better FTM focus (IMO the focus ring on the 85L is terrible) and better purple fringing (not hard either), I'm in!

If the IQ of the Sigmalux is anything to go by...

[kenshin]

I just received notification from Amazon that they're cancelling my pre-order of this lens. That can't be a good sign.

[banpreso]

I just received notification from Amazon that they're cancelling my pre-order of this lens. That can't be a good sign.

i guess something's seriously wrong and they've got to tweak the design...

[darosk]

Well that's a pity.

[jwcdds]

This thread does not deliver. ;)

[Scott111184]

Subscribed!

[ChristopherChen]

With the time taken for this lens to be released, I could probably have just saved up for the 85L.

Taking way too long Sigma!

[Supersignet]

Is there any kind of prize for the first one to get their hands on one of these lenses?

[JayStar86]

I just received notification from Amazon that they're cancelling my pre-order of this lens. That can't be a good sign.

yup Amazon just de-listed the Sigma 85mm for Canon and Nikon mount from there site.... as of right now its no longer listed there for either mount.

Boo on Sigma and a big thumbs down for making there potential customers wait so long. Add to that they messed up on there recently released lenses and had to do a recall...... this just adds to already tarnished reputation of Sigma for poor quality control. With the recent price increases from Sigma and premium pricing this situation really doesn't help them get sales. I mean you wanna charge more for a product... then put out a good product with atleast decent quality control and top notch customer service. None of these variables are present with Sigma.... I really wanted to be a believer in this Sigma 85 and Sigma in general.... but I guess it wasnt to be.

I guess I will be buying a Canon 85 1.8 instead and then collecting my pennies until I am old and get a 85L, lol.

I think just about killed it for me with Sigma products... I am truly very disappointed.

[ecka]

Is there any kind of prize for the first one to get their hands on one of these lenses?

Yes, the prize is to be the first person sharing some nice sample shots in this thread ;)

i guess something's seriously wrong and they've got to tweak the design...

I hope they'll add Optical Stabilization and/or reduce MFD, then Sigma would be the best :rolleyes:

[JelleVerherstraeten]

It's down in my local store to 819 euro.

But I'm still going to wait for some reviews of the lens. I'm sorry guys :-).

[aerosmith9110]

It's down in my local store to 819 euro.

But I'm still going to wait for some reviews of the lens. I'm sorry guys :-).


so... its already released?

Can't you just test it at the store? :D

So you can give us a review? ( really interested on the bokeh / sharpness of this compared to the sigmalux )


Thanks.

[lukeap69]

C'mon Jelle

You can make us all happy by doing the first review :)

[JelleVerherstraeten]

so... its already released?

Can't you just test it at the store? :D

So you can give us a review? ( really interested on the bokeh / sharpness of this compared to the sigmalux )


Thanks.

That's actually not a bad idea :D.

But it'll have to wait till next week.

[aerosmith9110]

That's actually not a bad idea :D.

But it'll have to wait till next week.

damn.... I was so exited it was released! I was planning on a used 5dc body but since the 85 is released I'm holding on to my dough!

can you do it later?? hahahah :D

Lots of us here are exited.. :D

[jwcdds]

Yeah, at least take a picture of it so that people will know it actually exists! And not some mythical unicorn. ;)

[JelleVerherstraeten]

Yeah, at least take a picture of it so that people will know it actually exists! And not some mythical unicorn. ;)


Haha :D!

I'll try do it next week if I can make it to the shop.

[dolina]

I would love to see how this performs for indoor sports.

[aerosmith9110]

still waiting :D

[czeglin]

Every time someone posts in this thread and it's not a photo sample, it pops up on my thread subscription list. Keep twisting the knife, folks!

Yes, I am aware of the irony of this post. It's like using reply-all to tell people not to use reply-all.

[power_play21]

Every time someone posts in this thread and it's not a photo sample, it pops up on my thread subscription list. Keep twisting the knife, folks!

Yes, I am aware of the irony of this post. It's like using reply-all to tell people not to use reply-all.

Just thought I'd make the thread pop up one more time for you :)

Sorry, no pic here!

[JayStar86]

still waiting :D

i wouldn't hold my breath. if the lens is being de-listed from sites... that means something is seriously wrong with Sigma or the lens or both.

I went ahead and bought a Canon 85 1.8 which is en-route to me now. If and when the Sigma 85 1.4 becomes a proven performer like the Sigma 50 1.4 I will get it then for sure but not until then. I lost complete faith in Sigma as a brand, especially, one that is trying to charge premium pricing compared to other 3rd party lens brands.

[czeglin]

Just thought I'd make the thread pop up one more time for you :)

Sorry, no pic here!
You're all heart ;):D

[joosay]

yup Amazon just de-listed the Sigma 85mm for Canon and Nikon mount from there site.... as of right now its no longer listed there for either mount.

Boo on Sigma and a big thumbs down for making there potential customers wait so long. Add to that they messed up on there recently released lenses and had to do a recall...... this just adds to already tarnished reputation of Sigma for poor quality control. With the recent price increases from Sigma and premium pricing this situation really doesn't help them get sales. I mean you wanna charge more for a product... then put out a good product with atleast decent quality control and top notch customer service. None of these variables are present with Sigma.... I really wanted to be a believer in this Sigma 85 and Sigma in general.... but I guess it wasnt to be.

I guess I will be buying a Canon 85 1.8 instead and then collecting my pennies until I am old and get a 85L, lol.

I think just about killed it for me with Sigma products... I am truly very disappointed.

This post made me LOL. I'm sorry if I'm the only one that thinks this way but I'd rather Sigma work out whatever it is that they are trying to work out BEFORE its release than to have to deal with it after customers have had their hands on it. You're bashing them for having to do a recall on their recently released lenses but also bash them for learning their lesson by delaying their 85 1.4 release to avoid having to recall them.

[JayStar86]

This post made me LOL. I'm sorry if I'm the only one that thinks this way but I'd rather Sigma work out whatever it is that they are trying to work out BEFORE its release than to have to deal with it after customers have had their hands on it. You're bashing them for having to do a recall on their recently released lenses but also bash them for learning their lesson by delaying their 85 1.4 release to avoid having to recall them.


I agree with you that they should delay the 85 1.4 if something is indeed wrong with it. But what it comes down to for me is the fact that Sigma clearly failed yet again in successfully launching a product after showing it to the world and announcing launch dates.

Whens the last time Canon announced the release of a product and then made you wait six months for it and then said oooppss we f'ed up and said your gunna have to wait some more. Simply put its bad press and bad "sales". Its just a showing overall of an organization with a bad wrap to begin with on quality control that cant get its sh!t right. And that to me is a big let down with the price increases from Sigma.

What im stating is more related to there business side of things then anything.

[joosay]

I see your point but I think it's just Sigma weighing the lesser of two evils and I think they chose the path that gives the lesser headache.

[Shadowblade]

I agree with you that they should delay the 85 1.4 if something is indeed wrong with it. But what it comes down to for me is the fact that Sigma clearly failed yet again in successfully launching a product after showing it to the world and announcing launch dates.

Whens the last time Canon announced the release of a product and then made you wait six months for it and then said oooppss we f'ed up and said your gunna have to wait some more. Simply put its bad press and bad "sales". Its just a showing overall of an organization with a bad wrap to begin with on quality control that cant get its sh!t right. And that to me is a big let down with the price increases from Sigma.

What im stating is more related to there business side of things then anything.

Instead of delaying a problem product, Canon just release it with the problem, then fix it later - AF problems on the 1D3 and black dots next to highlights on the 5D2, for example. I'd rather they take the time to get it right...

Although I suspect the holdup may be more in the production/QC side of things rather than the engineering - it'd be fantastic to get a lens with Sigmalux IQ and pinpoint AF without 1 in 5 or whatever units needing recalibration by Sigma.

[sebr]

I am with Jay on this one... all this does not build much confidence in Sigma products and I am not sure the extra weight will result in a perfectly working product. It was probably announced way to early for marketing reasons and the whole thing is just backfiring.

[joosay]

No worries, feel free to go 85L :)

[Zerimar]

I was on the phone with Canoga Camera today (great local store and online store) and they said they had ordered one over a month ago but Sigma had never filled their order. I am first on the list to check out the lens when they get it shipped to them.

Provided it can perform I will buy it as it is $1100 less than the 85L for only 1/3 stop of light less than f1.2. I am considering getting a sigma set of 30 f1.4, 50 f1.4, and 85 f1.4 as opposed to a canon 35 f1.4, 50 f1.2 and 85 f1.2.

[Grady69]

Ha! Made you look! LMAO!

[Jaytypes]

in on the waiting game

[banpreso]

haha page 4 already. sigma, are you looking at this thread?!

[aerosmith9110]

I'm waitning for JelleVerherstraeten test pics....

he said its already avail there...

Still waiting... ( 3 wks now ) :(

[CJSmith]

I think he meant that the price was down in the store. Not the lens itself.

[Yamaha451]

I got excited when I saw this thread. But then excitement turned to disappointment. Thread should be closed!

[J-B]

I'm from the same country as Jelle and every store I checked: not in stock and never has been... all waiting.

[Project22a]

I give up. Ended up buying a Rokinon 85mm f/1.4 for my Minolta instead.

[tkbslc]

Sigma has a bunch of new lenses releasing this year and none were given estimated ship dates. I don't know why we are assuming anything at this point.

[JayStar86]

I give up. Ended up buying a Rokinon 85mm f/1.4 for my Minolta instead.

i gave up too... got the Canon 85 1.8 instead.

[Shadowblade]

I'm guessing Sigma just announced every lens for 2010 at the start of the year...

[chefausi]

I did contact Sigma corp today. They said Sigma 85mm 1.4 will be shipped mid september in USA.

[banpreso]

I did contact Sigma corp today. They said Sigma 85mm 1.4 will be shipped mid september in USA.

man, that's missing the whole 2010 wedding season.

ok... lock this tread up until then...

[JayStar86]

I did contact Sigma corp today. They said Sigma 85mm 1.4 will be shipped mid september in USA.

Ill believe it when it happens. :rolleyes:

[banpreso]

$899 on bh
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/727169-USA/Sigma_320101_85mm_f_1_4_EX_DG.html

[JayStar86]

$899 on bh
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/727169-USA/Sigma_320101_85mm_f_1_4_EX_DG.html

about fu**ing time, eh!

77mm filter is bit of a turn off. I have all 72mm filters... would it be okay to get a step up ring and use them on 77mm lens without any issues?

[lukeap69]

On the contrary, 77mm filter is a big plus for me since most of my lenses have share the same filter size :)

[fidens]

77mm filter is bit of a turn off. I have all 72mm filters... would it be okay to get a step up ring and use them on 77mm lens without any issues?

You would need a step down ring, 77-72, and would probably have to crop your photos as the edge of the filter will likely be visable, at the very least in the corners of the frame. Better to get some 77mm filters and step them down for use on your other lenses.

[tkbslc]

If you are shooting 1.6 or 1.3x crop, then I doubt you would see that last 5mm of the lens anyway, but on FF, I would suspect it would show up as vignetting in the image.

[JayStar86]

You would need a step down ring, 77-72, and would probably have to crop your photos as the edge of the filter will likely be visable, at the very least in the corners of the frame. Better to get some 77mm filters and step them down for use on your other lenses.

If you are shooting 1.6 or 1.3x crop, then I doubt you would see that last 5mm of the lens anyway, but on FF, I would suspect it would show up as vignetting in the image.

thanks for the information.... i didnt think there would be any issues. Im using a ring right now to use my 72mm filters on my 58mm lens and i have no issues.

But I can see how using a smaller filter on a larger lens might cause some issues like that.

[Martin.D]

I got excited when I saw this thread. But then excitement turned to disappointment. Thread should be closed!

agreed - 5 pages and no photos - needs to be moved to " 'Equipment Talk' section (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=5) > Canon EF and EF-S Lense (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=33)"

[joosay]

It's going to be released next month...

[haiko]

ouuuuuoou,

fife pages about a lens exciting so many among us and yet another post without an image

[Veza]

9.10 SIGMA 85mm F1.4 EX DG HSM F/CANON scheduled to start shipping at the end of this month.

there you go. end of this month.

[Sven-EOS]

9.10 SIGMA 85mm F1.4 EX DG HSM F/CANON scheduled to start shipping at the end of this month.

there you go. end of this month.
Anyone ordering? Than we can finaly see some pics!

[joosay]

going for $899 @ BH

I have the Sigma 24-70 HSM, Sigmalux and the 135L....not sure whether to go 24L/35L or this lens..

edit - I'm leaning towards this lens. Does anyone know how fast Adorama gets a rental version of a newly released lens? (I just sent them an email and will post here if no one replies)

[zincozinco]

six pages no photos in an Example thread....

[joosay]

lol dunno how many times that has to be said...it's coming out this month...

[Apollo.11]

So when's it coming? Oh, this month, soooo long to wait. :(

[ni$mo350]

I think I'm going to pick this up in December and if I don't like it then I'll upgrade to the 85L ii.

[ben805]

On the contrary, 77mm filter is a big plus for me since most of my lenses have share the same filter size :)

Same here, I wish my 85L has 77mm filter, all my other lens are 77mm...

[ben805]

I think I'm going to pick this up in December and if I don't like it then I'll upgrade to the 85L ii.

I wouldn't bank on it, I'm pretty sure Sigma engineer have done extensive test of this lens in the lab to compare to Canon and Nikon equivalent, if the optical performance is anywhere close to the 85L II they would have charge atleast $1200 for it, who wouldn't want to save $800 if it has close to 85L IQ with faster AF?? For $900 this lens better have better CA control than 85 1.8 and just as sharp stopping down to f/1.8 :D

[Apollo.11]

OOPS, posted in wrong thread

[zincozinco]

COOL!!and great shot BTW!

p.s maybe clone out the flash in the bg

p.s.s WTF its 70mm hardly 85....

[zincozinco]

these threads are only for examples of the lenses that figure in the name of it....

[westbon]

COOL!!and great shot BTW!

p.s maybe clone out the flash in the bg

p.s.s WTF its 70mm hardly 85....

lol, he took with his 24-70 (one of some examples for his selling stuff), I thought!

[sebr]

I also feel like posting some photos, may be from the 135L... 6 pages and still no example shot !!!!

This thread should be zeroed once actual samples come out.

[Apollo.11]

OOPS, posted in the wrong thread! Sorry about the confusion.

Yes, I should have cloned out the flash.

[Shadowblade]

I wouldn't bank on it, I'm pretty sure Sigma engineer have done extensive test of this lens in the lab to compare to Canon and Nikon equivalent, if the optical performance is anywhere close to the 85L II they would have charge atleast $1200 for it, who wouldn't want to save $800 if it has close to 85L IQ with faster AF?? For $900 this lens better have better CA control than 85 1.8 and just as sharp stopping down to f/1.8 :D

You mean like how the Sigmalux has the same optical performance as the 50L (apart from f/1.2), an easier-to-correct focus issue (merely requiring calibration) and costs a third the price?

[jrsamples]

Well... apparently someone tested a pre production version on the sigma sd15 and posted on FM forums.
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/937165

[dudemanppl]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU U, pushed back to November release...

[phamster]

OMG.. i came here to see what the photos look like and 7 pages and no photos haha.. darn it !

[KRUSH]

Yeah Pham-

I think we are all waiting on those...or the lens to be released.

[alfeel]

I registered only to bring u some sample shot (by Ola Harström), after pages of "no photos", here you can find some full res. shots wide open, using a 5DII:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4111/5026632191_91e662aaa3_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/5026626259_a9ec3ae4b5_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4152/5026591267_d263c2b1b9_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/5026637843_befbacd1df_o.jpg (corner sharpness)

it seems pretty good to me, slightly worse than the Canon 85L and Nikon 85 but it costs a lot less!!! I hope you appreciate the samples! :)

[KayakPhotos]

I registered only to bring u some sample shot, after pages of "no photos", here you can find some full res. shots wide open, using a 5DII:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4111/5026632191_91e662aaa3_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/5026626259_a9ec3ae4b5_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4152/5026591267_d263c2b1b9_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/5026637843_befbacd1df_o.jpg (corner sharpness)

it seems pretty good to me, slightly worse than the Canon 85L and Nikon 85 but it costs a lot less!!! I hope you appreciate the samples! :)

Where did you test the lens at? These samples look very good to me.

[alfeel]

Where did you test the lens at? These samples look very good to me.

I've not tested it by myself, i edited the previous post with the credits to the photographer who took the shots, however I think @Photokina.

now i post some other shots @different apertures!

[alfeel]

other samples:

(F1.4 ) http://www2nd.sigma-photo.co.jp/lens/sample-photo/Sigma85_14-001.jpg
(F7.1 ) http://www2nd.sigma-photo.co.jp/lens/sample-photo/Sigma85_14-002.jpg
(F2.8 ) http://www2nd.sigma-photo.co.jp/lens/sample-photo/Sigma85_14-003.jpg
(F2.8 ) http://www2nd.sigma-photo.co.jp/lens/sample-photo/Sigma85_14-004.jpg
(F11 ) http://www2nd.sigma-photo.co.jp/lens/sample-photo/Sigma85_14-005.jpg
(F8 ) http://www2nd.sigma-photo.co.jp/lens/sample-photo/Sigma85_14-006.jpg
(F2.5 ) http://www2nd.sigma-photo.co.jp/lens/sample-photo/Sigma85_14-007.jpg

http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/lens/sample-photo/85_14_sample-photo.htm here all the exif!

[ef2]

sexy :D

[Supersignet]

Crap these look good....

[KayakPhotos]

Crap these look good....

Yeah, this lens has gone from "maybe" to "definitely" on my to get list.

[phamster]

so how much is this lens?

[tkbslc]

so how much is this lens?

$900

Honestly these samples aren't really seeming much better than the 85mm f1.8 to me. That f2.8 beer bottle sample has all kinds of green CA in the bokeh, so you are just trading that for purple on the Canon.

[JayStar86]

samples look good..... but im not convinced yet to trade up my 85 1.8.

[ecka]

Thanks for the samples, 'alfeel'
Those look very nice to me, or at least as good as 85L output. We should ask 'phamster' to confirm that :D. Otherwise, it could be a very good post-processing that makes them shine.

[phamster]

yes.. all of my photos goes thru light room or photoshop.. so it is processed..

i am looking because my friends were talking they want a 85 Prime lens to use..

so i am looking at other solutions for my friends..

[alfeel]

Thanks for the samples, 'alfeel'
Those look very nice to me, or at least as good as 85L output. We should ask 'phamster' to confirm that :D. Otherwise, it could be a very good post-processing that makes them shine.

the first serie, only white balance and contrast/sharpening default in lightroom, the second one, i don't know..

[ecka]

I'm somewhat on a budget, so I choose my lenses carefully. That's why I need some real user opinions to make the right choice without paying too much or buying something I probably don't need at all. I didn't get any of currently available 85 primes because of 4 reasons ... :rolleyes:
First - I'm new to DSLR world, no reason to hurry.
Second - new Sigma 85 was already on the horison when I started thinking of getting something in 85 range.
Third - any of the existing 85 primes are high contrast bokeh fringing factories :confused: so I was hoping that Sigma will make some improvements in that area.
Finally - I think that I need to get a FF body for 85mm and, at the moment, 50mm works well for me on a crop camera.

[JelleVerherstraeten]

Sigma's shooting his own tires...

[cobra671]

I was going to get the canon, but I think I'll hold off until I see samples of this lens from forum members, rather than judge from the manufacturers samples. If it's anything like the new 50 they make, I may just splurge.

[OWSIU]

I registered only to bring u some sample shot (by Ola Harström), after pages of "no photos", here you can find some full res. shots wide open, using a 5DII:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4111/5026632191_91e662aaa3_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/5026626259_a9ec3ae4b5_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4152/5026591267_d263c2b1b9_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/5026637843_befbacd1df_o.jpg (corner sharpness)

it seems pretty good to me, slightly worse than the Canon 85L and Nikon 85 but it costs a lot less!!! I hope you appreciate the samples! :)

Images are also in the Sigma 85mm pool. Looks like they were taken at Photokina. EXIF info shows most were taken with 5DII and lens wide open.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/1362990@N21/pool/with/5027205706/

[ChristopherChen]

I want one so bad...

They're taking way too long to release this though.

[Stealthy Ninja]

Looking forward to seeing some samples myself, though I'll be buying the Nikon version. :cool:

Same here, wanna see how it is. :)

$900

Honestly these samples aren't really seeming much better than the 85mm f1.8 to me. That f2.8 beer bottle sample has all kinds of green CA in the bokeh, so you are just trading that for purple on the Canon.

Except the sigma goes all the way down to 1.4. :p

OK so I looked at some of the samples... looks good. I'll be getting one (after the 14-24 that is ;) ).

[ChromeThunder]

I'm sold on the image quality, but I want to see some user reviews on focus speed, accuracy, etc before fully committing to this lens.

[Fotofanten]

I agree. Looks even better than the Sigmalux 50 IMO. I will gladly sell mine and buy the 85 instead as long as focusing performance is proven to be both accurate and consistent. For me, the importance of focusing speed shrivels into insignificance when compared to accuracy and consistency from frame to frame. Just look at the 85L. If Sigma hopes for this lens to be the tool of the professional then it must be reliable even without calibration.

[alfeel]

Looks like they were taken at Photokina. EXIF info shows most were taken with 5DII and lens wide open.


yes I wrote that they ware taken with 5DII wide open @Photokina :)


I was going to get the canon, but I think I'll hold off until I see samples of this lens from forum members, rather than judge from the manufacturers samples. If it's anything like the new 50 they make, I may just splurge.

the shots in the first serie are not manufacturer samples!


however another sample, full res, 5dII, wide open, low light (iso 3200)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/5032389709_88f6ce20cd_o.jpg

[cobra671]

yes I wrote that they ware taken with 5DII wide open @Photokina :)




the shots in the first serie are not manufacturer samples!


however another sample, full res, 5dII, wide open, low light (iso 3200)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/5032389709_88f6ce20cd_o.jpg

I will wait for shots from forum members who actually own the lens, is what I meant to express.

[Shadowblade]

The IQ looks fantastic - definitely comparable to the 85L. Maybe a tiny bit less sharp at f/1.4, but the bokeh looks even smoother (I wonder if it exhibits the 'chopped circles' phenomenon on OOF highlights at wide apertures, like the 85L. Definitely less purple fringing - the green fringing is much easier to correct for without affecting IQ (desaturating wide purple fringes to wide grey fringes isn't exactly great for IQ...). Of course, these comparisons are hard to judge on shots taken of different subjects under different lighting by different people, using different settings - we'll have to wait for the final release for that. And, at more normal shooting apertures of f/2 or so, I'd predict the two lenses to be basically indistinguishable in IQ.

The trump card is, of course, AF accuracy and speed - it'd be hard to be slower than the 85L, but Sigma would be putting *so* much more pressure on Canon and Nikon if *all* their lenses focused accurately and consistently on all bodies - how often do you hear people discounting optically-excellent Sigma lenses due to AF issues, whether real or perceived? Sigmalux, anyone? IQ and price-wise, it should have consigned the 50L and Zeiss Planar 50 (not MP 50ZE) to the scrapheap...

Hopefully this 'delay' by Sigma is in order to fix any remaining issues, to ensure accurate AF and fine-tune opticzl design for ultimate sharpness and lack of CA/LoCA. I certainly wouldn't complain about the wait if the final prodict focuses accurately and has the IQ of a 200L...

[Stealthy Ninja]

(I wonder if it exhibits the 'chopped circles' phenomenon on OOF highlights at wide apertures, like the 85L.

This 1.4 sample (posted before)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4111/5026632191_91e662aaa3_o.jpg

Seems to have that phenomenon (though not too bad... and it COULD be the angle/shape of the lights).


how often do you hear people discounting optically-excellent Sigma lenses due to AF issues, whether real or perceived? Sigmalux, anyone?

Yeah I discounted the Sigma back when I wanted it for my 5D (which doesn't have micro adjust). I tried a bunch in the shop and none of them focuses right. I didn't want the hassle of HAVING to get my lens adjusted at Sigma...

But now I've got one for my D3s. After some micro adjust it works perfectly. No focus shifting etc. it's a GREAT lens and is making me want the 85 1.4 (bokeh!!!). :)


Hopefully this 'delay' by Sigma is in order to fix any remaining issues, to ensure accurate AF and fine-tune opticzl design for ultimate sharpness and lack of CA/LoCA.


Totally agree. Hopefully they're doing some QQ this time. :lol:


I certainly wouldn't complain about the wait if the final prodict focuses accurately and has the IQ of a 200L...

LOL yeah.

[alfeel]

another sample..

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4131/5038271467_5fcdb5c2b9_o.jpg

[joosay]

So what do you all think? Will you be buying this lens?

[KayakPhotos]

So what do you all think? Will you be buying this lens?

I'd really like one, but it will probably be a while until it's in the cards for me. I think I am going to start with the Sigma 30 and then buy the 50 and 85 if I like it.

[dtsang]

So what do you all think? Will you be buying this lens?

i'm really interested in it. i'm starting to get into primes and already have the 30 and the 50 offering, but i'd really like to see what street price and images look like first.

[haiko]

So what do you all think? Will you be buying this lens?
probably not since i have already a cy zeiss 85 1.4 T* :-)

[resoundproductions]

I'll have to wait and see if this is worth the jump from an 85 1.8. I'm itching for an 85LII, and I don't really want to shell out for something that's not going to satisfy long-term.

[joosay]

probably not since i have already a cy zeiss 85 1.4 T* :-)

if i was any good with manual lenses i would have def gone zeiss too :(

[psychodweep]

Is this lens already for sale ? Just saw a local shop had it in stock, so I ordered it.

[cobra671]

Is this lens already for sale ? Just saw a local shop had it in stock, so I ordered it.

It looks like they've rolled em out. Can't wait to see samples.... :lol:

[junipa]

I'm keen but I don't know if I have the patience to wait much longer. It won't be out in Oz for ages yet, so I'll probably give in and get the Canon 85 1.8

[Shadowblade]

I'm keen but I don't know if I have the patience to wait much longer. It won't be out in Oz for ages yet, so I'll probably give in and get the Canon 85 1.8

Simple - buy it online!

You'll get it for half the price - and, if the purchase price is less than $1000, you won't even pay GST on it!

With the Aussie dollar at parity with the US dollar, they're still charging us as if it were worth 50 US cents...

[psychodweep]

just picked up my copy. I'm on my way home. First impression is that this lens is quite huge. Gonna post some pics soon. It cost me 849 Eur or about 1100 USD.

[Fotofanten]

just picked up my copy. I'm on my way home. First impression is that this lens is quite huge. Gonna post some pics soon. It cost me 849 Eur or about 1100 USD.

Congrats! You may well be the first consumer to own one :) Looking forward to the pics.

[psychodweep]

Just made some testshots at home... but it's getting already dark, so had to pump up tot iso800 outside.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/5051779798_53e237f384_b.jpg

comparison with 85mm f1.8
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/5051160489_695d6f7941_b.jpg

-AF is slow.
-Bokeh is nice
-Weight is about 740g.
-Quite lot of vignetting wide open.
More testing tomorrow.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/5051831538_5355ae24f5_o.jpg (f1.4 ISO200 1/100)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4144/5051212811_f476582d80_o.jpg (f1.4 ISO800 1/160)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/5051209111_f35b5248ed_o.jpg (f1.4 ISO200 1/80)

[Leo Stutzmann]

I really want to like this lens.

On the picture of the cat in the grass. Could you tell me where the focus point was?

It appears that the grass a little in front of the cat and to the right is in sharper focus then the cat.

[psychodweep]

I tried to focus on the eye, but the cat was moving al the time...
Same with flower, that was also moving because of the wind.
I also have the 135L, but the bokeh is certainly not 135L style.

*edit*
the vignetting was due to an underexposed photo... others don't have vignetting.

[DDL]

comparison with 85mm f1.8


-AF is slow.
-Bokeh is nice
-Weight is about 740g.
-Quite lot of vignetting wide open.
More testing tomorrow.



Are these all in comparison to the 85mm f1.8?

I'm trying to figure out whether to wait for the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 or buy the Canon 85mm f/1.8 now.

Thanks

[ecka]

...
-AF is slow.
-Bokeh is nice
-Weight is about 740g.
-Quite lot of vignetting wide open.
More testing tomorrow.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/5051831538_5355ae24f5_o.jpg (f1.4 ISO200 1/100)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4144/5051212811_f476582d80_o.jpg (f1.4 ISO800 1/160)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/5051209111_f35b5248ed_o.jpg (f1.4 ISO200 1/80)
thanks psychodweep,
good sharpness at f/1.4 and colors are just great, very nice bokeh
I'm not an expert but it looks like 85ex has better contrast at f/1.4 than 50ex (that's if you didn't improve it in pp)
very excited to see more samples :)
how slow is the AF? is it slower than Canon 85L?

[JayStar86]

yah i wanna know about the AF speed. watcha mean its slow? slow in comparison to what lens?

The AF speed makes or breaks this lens for me. The colors, contrast and bokeh are looking pretty damn solid indeed. Looks like a pretty sharp lens as well.

[psychodweep]

It's the slowest lens I have now... i think as slow as my sigma fisheye 15mm.
It really takes a second to focus.
I will make a video to show how fast the AF moves.
I don't have the 85L and have never used it, so I can't judge about it.

[ecka]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT_hpf_P0FU
like that slow?

[norbelthomas]

I think the blurred focus point may due to the moving objects and not fast enough shutter. However, it appears more surprising and incredible photos under this circumstance. Keep realeasing the photos.

[psychodweep]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT_hpf_P0FU
like that slow?

It's hard too compare, because the distances are closer to each other on the sigma.
I've made a movie of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLNADQkQty0

Some more samples (PP in lighroom, vibrance & saturation +9, contrast on 30)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/5053480091_be853df2d7_o.jpg (ISO50, 1.4, 1/1600)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/5054101094_d854c59191_o.jpg (ISO50, 1.4, 1/2500)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/5054098826_64c3741569_o.jpg (ISO50, 1.4, 1/2500)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/5053479539_150e8e9f52_o.jpg (ISO50, 1.4, 1/2500)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/5054100466_92265a2c28_o.jpg (ISO50, 1.4, 1/3200)

[Supersignet]

Those photos are making me want this lens more and more. I'm going to have quite the Sigma collection soon....

[Drozz119]

It's hard too compare, because the distances are closer to each other on the sigma.
I've made a movie of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLNADQkQty0

Some more samples (PP in lighroom, vibrance & saturation +9, contrast on 30)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/5053480091_be853df2d7_o.jpg (ISO50, 1.4, 1/1600)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/5054101094_d854c59191_o.jpg (ISO50, 1.4, 1/2500)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/5054098826_64c3741569_o.jpg (ISO50, 1.4, 1/2500)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/5053479539_150e8e9f52_o.jpg (ISO50, 1.4, 1/2500)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/5054100466_92265a2c28_o.jpg (ISO50, 1.4, 1/3200)

Looks good! Do you have any high contrast @ 1.4 to see how the CA compares to the 85L


It's the slowest lens I have now... i think as slow as my sigma fisheye 15mm.
It really takes a second to focus.
I will make a video to show how fast the AF moves.
I don't have the 85L and have never used it, so I can't judge about it.

Thats pretty slow.. it seems like you were going from 5 to 20 feet distance. Here's a comparison with the 5d2 and 24-105

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deI_edTTMec


So much for being a sports lens and crushing the 85 1.8.. But, I guess sigma would've priced it a lot higher if it had speed like the 1.8.

[ben805]

It's hard too compare, because the distances are closer to each other on the sigma.
I've made a movie of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLNADQkQty0

Some more samples (PP in lighroom, vibrance & saturation +9, contrast on 30)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/5053480091_be853df2d7_o.jpg (ISO50, 1.4, 1/1600)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/5054101094_d854c59191_o.jpg (ISO50, 1.4, 1/2500)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/5054098826_64c3741569_o.jpg (ISO50, 1.4, 1/2500)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/5053479539_150e8e9f52_o.jpg (ISO50, 1.4, 1/2500)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/5054100466_92265a2c28_o.jpg (ISO50, 1.4, 1/3200)

CA is definitely better than the 85L, saw your video and the AF of this lens also appear to be faster than my 85L II as well....if these were taken with 7D then I'd say these samples are plenty sharp but I bet it'd be even better on a FF. Contrast is good too.


Please do me a favor, take 10 consecutive shots (in single mode) of the same subject and same composition at f/1.4 to check for AF accuracy and consistency, if you can get 7 out of 10 shots in focus then I'd say this lens will give the 85L a hell of a run for the money!!

[JayStar86]

thanks for posting all the stuff so far psychodweep.... im going to wait for an official review.... but that AF speed doesn't seem all that bad at all. Assuming the AF doesn't "hunt" I think I might go for this.

[psychodweep]

Please do me a favor, take 10 consecutive shots (in single mode) of the same subject and same composition at f/1.4 to check for AF accuracy and consistency, if you can get 7 out of 10 shots in focus then I'd say this lens will give the 85L a hell of a run for the money!!

With a tripod and each time refocusing ?

[Shadowblade]

So...

Less CA at similar apertures to 85L (is this just purple fringing, or all CA?)
1/3 stop slower
2/3 the weight
Half the price
Focuses equally slowly (any idea which one 'wins' the tortoise race?)
Seems equally sharp (any side-by-side comparisons)
Equally smooth bokeh (seems like it doesn't give chopped bokeh highlights though - maybe the 77mm front element helps)
Neither is weather-sealed
85ex takes 77mm filters - good if most of your Canon lenses are L zooms
85L takes 72mm filters - good if most of your Canon lenses are L primes

AF accuracy unknown (traditionally Sigma's weak point on Canon bodies)

Does it have internal focusing? (the 85L does not)

On all the points we know about so far, it looks to e an even math or better than the 85L, with the single exception of being 1/3 stop slower. If a few of the 'unknowns' turn out to be evenly matched or fall Sigma's way (especially AF accuracy - hopefully what Sigma has used this extra time to correct!) we may have a kingslayer on our hands!

[bkdc]

Is the focusing element in the front (like Canon 85L) or the back (internal)? The focusing speed definitely seems competitive with the 85L II.