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Gareth Copley
3rd of August 2005 (Wed), 09:25
I had a much needed holiday this weekend. Myself and some friends found a brilliant valley with some spectacular waterfalls. On coming home and looking at the photographs, I realised to my horror that I had shot them all at ISO 400. I had even read a thread on this just before setting out on Sunday.

I am now left with a number of choices. Do I use photoshop to take some of the grain away, do I use Raw Shooter to take some of the grain away. Do I use Neat Image to take some of the grain away or do I use an amalgamation of the three. Whats the best process?

Heres an example....

Andy_T
3rd of August 2005 (Wed), 09:31
Gareth,

which camera?
With a DSLR ... no problem at all
with a G series or equivalent ... tough luck.

Try searching the forum for the free Noiseware Community edition, if you don't have any noise removal programs.

I'd convert the RAW image to JPG without noise removal, run it through the noise removal software and then post-process it in PS.

Works like a charm on my 20D ISO 3200 pics.

Best regards,
Andy

Gareth Copley
3rd of August 2005 (Wed), 09:44
Clarification - Canon EOS 300D. Would be trying to use Neat Image

Curtis N
3rd of August 2005 (Wed), 09:57
ISO 400 on a 300D isn't exactly a catastrophe. Neat Image and Noise Ninja are the two most highly-rated noise reduction programs.

I differ with Andy on only one minor point: I would convert the RAW file to TIFF, then run it through noise reduction with the output still in TIFF format, then after your final PS tweaking, save as JPEG. Converting to JPEG early in such a workflow could lead to some image degradation (though it's probably a minor point if you keep compression to a minimum).

Andy_T
3rd of August 2005 (Wed), 10:09
Well, I totally agree with you , Curtis ... just the free Noiseware community edition (which is all I have) doesn't support TIFF :wink:

As to ISO 400 on 300D ... I also don't think that this is a catastrophe:lol:
The standard noise filter in RAW conversion should take care of that.

I use ISO 400 as standard on my 20D, and 800 if I'm outside and it's not sunny.
I'm only reluctant to switch to 1600 and 3200, but with noise reduction, even these work out nicely.

This is an example of an ISO 3200 image I treated with Noiseware Community edition. Lighting: 4 candles on the table :wink:

Canon 20D, 50/1.4
Don't have the EXIF information on my laptop, unfortunately, but I think it was something like
f/1.4, 1/30 s handheld, shot in large JPG

It's a bit pixelated because it's a low resolution 50 KB automated proof done with BreezeBrowser.
Still, I think it's not a bad example for a picture with very low light :wink:

Best regards,
Andy

GyRob
3rd of August 2005 (Wed), 12:19
wow your 3200 looks like 100. nice job
Rob

PhotosGuy
3rd of August 2005 (Wed), 22:01
RSE has noise reduction as part of the conversion processing.

Titus213
4th of August 2005 (Thu), 22:16
I've run ISO 400 images taken with the 300D and kit lens thru Neat Image and found little if any change.

Interesting exif on your picture - shows it was taken in January 1980. Must have been an early model of the 300D?:lol: Your image actually looks a little dark.

ryno4youth
4th of August 2005 (Thu), 22:41
400 ISO is nothing. You will find that in full suto mode the Drebel/300d will usually set the ISO to 400. I thought maybe you got 1600, now that would have been more of a problem. I am glad to hear that you got some rest.