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ShutteringFocus
8th of August 2005 (Mon), 12:55
I have a guy who wants me to take photos of his church and put together a postcard that they can use to send out to visitors with information about their church.

He'd like me to go to the church one morning to get photos of some stain-glass windows they have, and of their church building...then kinda combine the photos in photoshop to make a neat looking postcard.

I'm all for doing it, and I'm sure I can do what he wants...I'm just a little baffled as to what to charge for this thing.

He wants me to give him the JPEG file so he can take it to a printer and get it printed as many times as they might need.

I'm guessing this will probably take 2-3 hours, photo taking and ps included.

Any suggestions on what to charge?

Radtech1
8th of August 2005 (Mon), 19:20
Post Cards.

OK, according to Fotoquote (http://www.fotoquote.com/) if you have one photo taking up the entire post card, the average rate is $481.00 for a run of less than 1000 for a one year licence. For partial images it is $275 per image.

1000 to 5000 cards printed, the prices are $561 and $320.

5000 to 10,000 - $640 and $365.

For information on more than 10,000, I recommend that you buy Fotoquote - it is a great asset.

As far as the licence goes, never, never, never, NEVER give up the rights to your images. Licence their use for a specific time. If they want to continue using them after the first year, they should renew the licence.

Rad

Loki1117
8th of August 2005 (Mon), 20:55
Although, I agree with Rad that you should not release the rights to the image(s), I disagree that the license should be for a specific time; perhaps printing quantity would be better since you know they plan to mass produce your work.



It sounds to me though, that your contact wants to minimize the churches costs and that needs to be dealt with immediately. Gently, but immediately. I would suggest an up front charge for your "time and talent" and then a commission for each postcard they print. I am not going to make suggestions for what those amounts should be, that is your call. If your contact isn't willing to pay for your services, haggling is possible, but from my experience with religious organizations, until they see the quality they can get from a professional, they are going to be looking for something free (they have very tight budgets).



My own church had a "phobia" about paying for special musicians, until a couple of the members who performed in that aspect (and were phenomenal artists) started turning the church down due to paying gigs.



It may not be easy, but you need to be upfront.

PhotosGuy
10th of August 2005 (Wed), 08:27
Someone suggested this & it seems to make sense. If you're willing to do it for less than the Fotoquote price, charge them that, get paid, then write a check to make a charitable donation back to the church for the difference. You don't cut your price & get a deduction, & everyones happy. ;-)

Citizensmith
14th of August 2005 (Sun), 23:07
Two other issues to bear in mind.

Your relationship to the church. For example, there is a non-profit I volunteer for with another pro and we both are willing to hand over photos in exchange for a small hourly fee (around $150 for a day). Why, because its an organization I value and I have no problem making a donation.

And then the flip side. I've got work because I let these folks use my photos for free. It gets my name out, and gets my business card out. Its a great way of advertizing.

See if the church will put your contact info on the back, or as a watermark of somekind on the front. If they will then a smaller fee may be approriate (I think I'd go for $50 and hour) as they will be mailing out your 'advertising' to a whole host of people, all with no effort from you.