Why 4/500 or 4/600 instead of 2,8/400 + tc 1,4x?

[Image Stabilize]

Thank you for your pics (preferably taken with a 1Ds -I have two old ones) rather than verbal statements. We like curves too, but we love pictures!

[condyk]

I vote this cryptic post of the month :lol: :lol:

[formula4speed]

I think he's looking for pics taken with the 500 f/4L and 600 f/4L versus pictures of the 400 2.8L and 1.4TC. I will be happy to provide such images if you buy me one of each :)

[Nezmo]

Wow. My head hurts now.

[condyk]

I think he's looking for pics taken with the 500 f/4L and 600 f/4L versus pictures of the 400 2.8L and 1.4TC. I will be happy to provide such images if you buy me one of each :)

Sorry, you're still not really eligible to answer as you only have a 350D :p

OP ... check out www.photosig.com and you'll probably find samples from the lenses at least.

[Scottes]

I vote this cryptic post of the month
I agree.

The sad thing is that I know what he's asking.


Reason be 400/2.8 heavy, much heavy than otherz. Other that TC make image worse. Great image 400, why make bad? Last price. 400 very $$$. Sorry no pix.


How'd I do?

[condyk]

You did great. Very good answer :lol: :lol: :lol:

[formula4speed]

Sorry, you're still not really eligible to answer as you only have a 350D :p

OP ... check out www.photosig.com (http://www.photosig.com/) and you'll probably find samples from the lenses at least.

I resent that remark. My 350D would make an excellent rear lens cap for any of those lenses ;)

[Image Stabilize]

Thank you kindly

[danielr]

Not sure if Scottes quite covered this but if you want really long then you will probably be using 600mm + 1.4x and to get that length you would need a 2x teleconverter on the 400mm which would degrade too much for it to be useful.

hope this helps,

Daniel.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Any of the primes you mention will give better image quality on there own than any of the primes listed with a TC.

All three lenses will AF with any Canon slr and a 1.4X T-con
All three lenses will AF with your 1D and a 2X T-con.

The 500mm is the lightest of the three... the 400mm 2.8 and 600mm 4 weigh about the same.. the 600mm is longer physically..

You get the 400mm if speed is more important than focal length.

Otherwise you decide between 500mm and 600mm based on weight and cost.

I have 500mm images here;
http://cyberdynesystemsimaging.fotopic.net/c510223.html
http://cyberdynesystemsimaging.fotopic.net/p14561872.html
http://cyberdynesystemsimaging.fotopic.net/p14561871.html
http://cyberdynesystemsimaging.fotopic.net/p14600361.html

[Image Stabilize]

You don't wear that T-shirt for nothing, Cyber Dyne! Thank you for your competent answer.
But I'm sorry I did not make it too obvious, that most of the times the 2.8/400mm would be without the tc 1,4x, and that there's no other tc for me.
Also, family and friends like the pictures most, that I take of them with the latest lowest priced body and only with a 1,4/50 without a flash and nothing else. My 350 is just incredible, and maybe as quiet as a Leica. That's exactely what camera bodies should be: rear lens caps. Unexpensive, virtually non-existent, taking technically better picutures every year FASTER.
If I also may give advise: maybe you people try the Zigview LCD! It's all the time on my 350 with the never exchanged 50mm. Having a big black box between your face and the one of a person smiling at you does not help. The days of old and the waist level finders!
AND LEARNING ABOUT photoSIG EASILY MAKES UP FOR VERBAL ABUSE.
Cheers!

[lomond]

Priceless.

[CyberDyneSystems]

"Zigview" peeked my interest..
ran it through Google and came up with the following;
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060701zigview_lcd.asp
http://www.karlu.com/product_info.php?products_id=8764

COOL! I want one./.. wish there was a US distributor

[lomond]

No you don't.
You want an angle finder C.
In strong sunlight these would be useless.

Convenient for indoors or cloudy conditions.

Wait a minute, I want one. Well I live in Scotland. :lol:

[CyberDyneSystems]

Had an angle finder C,. .. never used it. So I traded it,... for a microphone :)
It did help with "angles" ... but I still had to bend over and mash my eye on it... think of the LCD for "off the hip" shots ;)

And though I don't live in the land of Single Malts.. .. I do live in New england.. where if the weather does not appeal to me.. I merely have to wait five minutes for it to change. :)

[lomond]

I love my angle finder C and I love my single malts.
And you can take them out of my cold dead hands. :evil:

Wait a minute, I have to go top myself up.

Slainte

[muscleflex]

Sorry, you're still not really eligible to answer as you only have a 350D :p

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LOL!

[Image Stabilize]

LOL!
I'm learning new things all the time.
What does LOL mean?
Is it an answer to "Slainte"? In what country or area?
If so, I always thought it's been written "sloncha!"(gulp). But asking friends in an Edinburgh bar about spelling and being a foreigner is even more out of place than asking:
DOES CANON HAVE CURVES OF THE PRIMES 300-600 WITH the TC 1,4X ON (Presuming that they result from the same set-ups as the primes themselves?) If not, who does provide them? Again, testing the primes under the same conditions.
I don't think Canon is too eager (keen as lomond would say) to do it. They'd rather sell a second prime to someone, than a tc1,4.
But there are people, who A) have some of those lenses B) might direct them on a clear sunny early morning at a big brick wall and then at a newspaper C) would be kind enough to share their knowledge here, to save me (and others, too) from a mis-investment. D)We like curves, but we love pictures (and crops out of them -marginal and cental ones-?) With a 24x36 would be asking for too much?!?
Sloncha! Though it's time for a second breakfast round where I live. I did my sunrise pictures already!

PS: The Zigview has one bigger(C) and two smaller(A&B) draw-backs. I tell ye, couse we's buddies and that counts more than Mr. Zigview getting a chance to come out with a new model, seing there 's a market for this product. Please totally disregard Anglefinder C for comparison. The Zigview is bright and can be used on a autofocus camera (didn't have that on a Rolleiflex) turning it into a truely candid camera.
A) I had a small part crafted (easy do-it your-self job, if looks don't matter. There is hidden in a book by Lartigue how HCB'S Leica really looked like) to be attached to the tripod thread of my 350 and not being in the way of the screen or the dials on the back of the camera PROTECTING IT against being bruised or broken off. Makes it cumbersome in the bag, too. Easier way: take it off and put it on all the time. In a month it'll be too easy, in two it'll fall off by itself. I'm glad to be pass taping with black electrician's adhesive tape. But better this preventively than after the whole thing is loose or even broken.
B)When shooting portrait (versus landscape) it crops the upper and lower margins A LITTLE. One can zoom in but not further "back" than full screen on landscape.
C)The power cells are like IN like on the very first Kodak digital. BUILT-IN! One stucks the plug into the body for charging.

It still is an alternative for me, though I usually like to think in the long run. It allowed me to sell my(left over)Nikon F5 with the1.4/85. I scanned it's pictures, just because I think, that the waist level finder is "priceless" for portrait as lomond put it.
(I still scan for the Contax's T3. You can't get more motorized info per ounce than with this babe and a good scanner. Non-motorized=non-remote but with different focal lengths YES!: with Mamiya 7 and most of it's lenses. This still beats any digital camera equipment -in terms of info per ounces on your sholders for less than135 mm on 1Ds -or1DsMarkII <--rather spending it on Single Malt. I prefer to wait for the 1DsMarkIII)
P.S. Hey guys, please help me with beefy data on the big ones with the tc!
Thank you for your attention span and maybe some real help

[lomond]

Is it an answer to "Slainte"? In what country or area?
If so, I always thought it's been written "sloncha!"(gulp). But asking friends in an Edinburgh bar about spelling

slainte
exclamation chiefly Scottish & Irish used as a toast before drinking.
ORIGIN
from Scottish Gaelic slàinte, literally 'health'.

Also Slainte Mhath meaning "Good Health"

Pronounced "Slanzh'va"

BTW, I think this guy is on a wind up.

[lomond]

wind-up
noun
1 British informal an attempt to tease or irritate someone.
2 an act of concluding something.
3 Baseball the motions of a pitcher preparing to pitch the ball.

[CyberDyneSystems]

DOES CANON HAVE CURVES OF THE PRIMES 300-600 WITH the TC 1,4X ON (Presuming that they result from the same set-ups as the primes themselves?)

Canon does.. but I'm not sure if they are readily availble on the 'net.. I can't find them anywhere.. (hmm something to add to the t-con sticky)

Canon has a reference book called "EOS LENS WORK" which includes curves for BOTH T-Cons on ALL the lenses that will fit them,.. Primes and Zooms alike...

[Image Stabilize]

Wind-up? Reading my non-cryptic hyper-articulate mail this morning now again I get the same impression, though I know the author (myself). So:

Though I make a living in a different profession, a big part of my pictures are commissioned. Here golfing has a posh immage. People know I photograph them but prefer not to think of it at all. AND STILL WIN. As a amateurs, mostly because they never are. Never!
I do not photograph anybody who I do not know. I never did photograph anybody in an arkward situation. But have you tried a 1D with a 16-35 at your local country club on the golf course, or as a guest visiting a befriended club during a tournament, just inches away from someone on the green?