Best wide angle for 1.6 crop body?

[SnowSpyder86]

I love wide angle photography, and all i have is the 18-55mm that came with my xt. You can probably already tell that i am on a strict budget and cant spend tons of cash. I need to know what is the best wide-angle lens for my 1.6 crop body? PLEASE HELP!:eek:

[LightRules]

Sigma 10-20 or Tokina 12-24; check them out.

[RikWriter]

Sigma 12-24 is a very nice lens, as is the Canon 17-40L. If you're on a limited budget, though, you might want to check out the Tokina 12-24, as it seems to be the least money in that focal range for a good lens.

[SnowSpyder86]

what about the Tokina AT-X 17 AF Pro? its got some good reviews

[drisley]

The best wide angle lens you can buy is the 16-35L from Canon, so that answers your main question.
But, if you are on a budget, the 17mm Tokina as SnowSpyder mentioned is extremely good, and very affordable if you don't mind using a prime.

[mgash]

go with the Tokina 12-24. good lense

[CorruptedPhotographer]

Sigma 20mm f/1.8
Since you didnt mention whether you love wide angle for landscape shooting or for indoors activities like architecture (home design reasons) or to capture groups of ppl.So if you are on a budget and want wide angle,the sigma is not that expensive, about 350$~ and the wide aperture is perfect for indoors, the fast aperture will do the job.

[m3elmo]

when you say budget...how much exactly? most of the lens so far mentioned are at least $450 or so.

[SnowSpyder86]

i would say $500 and under would be my budget. Mainly i will be using this for landscape, and indoors, some night photogrsphy as well(downtown in cities).

[RikWriter]

i would say $500 and under would be my budget. Mainly i will be using this for landscape, and indoors, some night photogrsphy as well(downtown in cities).

Tokina 12-24 would likely be your best bet then.

[FScott]

Tokina 12-24 would likely be your best bet then.

B&H says the Tokina 12-24mm f/4 AT-X 124AF Pro DX "lens is exclusively designed for use with Digital SLR cameras". It further states that is is not for use with 35mm or APS SLRs. Does that mean it is like an EF-S lens with a smaller image circle and you would get vignetting on a full-frame dSLR?

-- Scott.

[RikWriter]

B&H says the Tokina 12-24mm f/4 AT-X 124AF Pro DX "lens is exclusively designed for use with Digital SLR cameras". It further states that is is not for use with 35mm or APS SLRs. Does that mean it is like an EF-S lens with a smaller image circle and you would get vignetting on a full-frame dSLR?

-- Scott.



Yes.

[FScott]

Yes.

Thanks. Found it on Tokina's web-site. "for APS-C sized sensor". Here's the link:

http://www.tokinalens.com/products/tokina/afl-00.html


-- Scott.

[SnowSpyder86]

Could someone be kind enough to provide a link to the best/cheapest place to find the Tokina 12-24

[SolPics]

Here is B&H's site http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=360349&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

The Sigma 15 MM fisheye works pretty well on a 1.6 crop frame http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=179370&is=USA&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

[CorruptedPhotographer]

i would say $500 and under would be my budget. Mainly i will be using this for landscape, and indoors, some night photogrsphy as well(downtown in cities).

the tokina may not cut it indoors since its f/4, try the Sigma 20mm, its not as wide as the Tokina,buts much much faster, so would be perfect for indoors.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=217794&is=USA&addedTroughType=search

[lancea]

Given that you already have a lens that goes down to 18mm you'd be disappointed if you bought anything longer than 14mm. I realise the 10-22 EF-S is out of your budget, but if I were you I'd go with the recommendations for something that at least takes you down to 12mm so you get a true wide angle. It's great fun when you're that wide!

[SnowSpyder86]

Given that you already have a lens that goes down to 18mm you'd be disappointed if you bought anything longer than 14mm. I realise the 10-22 EF-S is out of your budget, but if I were you I'd go with the recommendations for something that at least takes you down to 12mm so you get a true wide angle. It's great fun when you're that wide!

But the EF-S 18-55mm that i have, yes its wide at 18mm, but its not actually a wide angle lens, correct? I thought there was something more to wide angle lenses rather than JUST the mm lenth....i might be wrong...and yes Corrupted, I might need something faster than f4, thanks for the tip;). Also, i dont want an extreme fisheye effect out of the lens, maybe just a tad, but i just want a really wide angle....so wheres the cut off point, whats the widest i can go on my 1.6x w/o fisheye?

[Carzee]

14mmmmmmmm!

http://www.mpsuperstore.com/camera/pict6095_200.jpg

[drisley]

Anything wider than 35mm is often considered "wide angle".
The 18mm lens with 1.6x crop is effectively 28mm, so yes, it is a wide angle lens.

[condyk]

Personally, I think the best bang per buck is the 12-24 Tokina if you want to buy new and want wide-wide. The 17mm is also a great option.

However, the most consistently excellent lens I've ever owned was the Tokina 20-35mm 2.8 Pro. Now, on a 1.6x crop that is not too wide, but I found it plenty wide for my uses. If cash is tight then it has two massive advantages. Firstly, it is a usable 2.8 constant, and secondly, it is reasonably often available via ebay for daft prices, simply because people don't know about it. In the UK it retails around £450 new and they can be found Sh via ebay for around the £200+ mark ... with patience. Built like a tank, long running lens model, but still current, works with any Canon EF, great reviews.

Tokina are Kings of wide ...

[chtgrubbs]

43mm is the mathematical "Normal" focal length for 35mm film. If you factor in the amount of film area which gets cropped in a slide mount or negative carrier then it is probably more accurate to use a 35mm lens as a "normal" on 35mm film, and 24mm is true wide-angle. This translates into a 15mm on the digital body, so I would go with a 12 or 15mm lens for a true wide-anlgle usage.

[SolPics]

Also, i dont want an extreme fisheye effect out of the lens, maybe just a tad, but i just want a really wide angle....

The 15mm fisheye's effects are minimal or non at all on a 1.6X crop. body.http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/264811/0#2221281

[lancea]

But the EF-S 18-55mm that i have, yes its wide at 18mm, but its not actually a wide angle lens, correct?
As drisley says. But the focal length is the determining factor in whether it's a wide angle or not. It's just that the crop factor (due to the sensor being smaller) makes the apparent focal length less on most digital cameras. As you'll see when you set your 18-55 to it's widest setting, it's not a particularly wide angle lens (although it would be if it could be used on a camera with a full-size sensor).

Even 10mm doesn't give anywhere near a full fisheye effect on my 20D. You do however get that kind of distortion if you move close to a subject, but it's fun. That's why I recommend you get at least a 14mm. Otherwise you'll spend all that money and find you're not getting much different for it.

[dharris]

You all forgot to mention the Tamron SP AF 17-35mm f/2.8-4 Di LD.

[SnowSpyder86]

Wow, thanks guys, that sure gives me a lot to consider,and gives me an idea for what type of lens would be worth my money investment. The Tokina 12-24 does look like a very good option, but is f4. As i said before, i am going to be doing a lot of low light and indoor photography as well, even though most use i will get out of this lens will be landscape. Will that be sufficient for what i need?

[nat869]

You all forgot to mention the Tamron SP AF 17-35mm f/2.8-4 Di LD.

I have this lens and absolutely love it!!! It is extremely sharp and has the 2.8 at 17mm!!!

[MadMesh]

I LOVE my Canon 10-22 lens. I used to have a 17-40 and sold it for the 10-22.

Typically i like to stay with canon brand glass, but im sure the 3rd party brands are good, i just like brand name b/c its eairer to resell in the future.