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Cyberus
3rd of April 2003 (Thu), 16:26
Hi,
I just bought my first digital camera, the Ixus v3 (Elph 230?). One of the reasons for my choice was the fact that I own the Ixus II APS and was very happy with it.
Anyway, I have a question:
I've looked in the manual how to change the shutter speed, and it directs me to press the Menu button, as I expected, but the option 'Shutter Speed' does not appear on the LCD under the Auto Rotate option as it does in the picture in the manual. Is there something wrong with my camera, is the manual wrong, or am I doing something stupid?
Any help would be greatly received!!

P.S. The reason I want to change the shutter speed is that sometimes the pictures I take seem very blurred (particularly close up, at about 50cm)

khs8
3rd of April 2003 (Thu), 19:43
S230 is an auto camera with very little manual control, i.e., you cannot set the shutter speed or the aperture. However, you can influence it. For example, if you want a higher speed to take action shots, then you have to go to the manual mode and change the ISO setting of 50 (default) to a higher setting. A higher ISO setting will increase the shutter speed, but will make you image more grainy, or noise. I would go to ISO 100 or 200 at the most.

Samhain
9th of April 2003 (Wed), 10:30
khs8 wrote:
S230 is an auto camera with very little manual control, i.e., you cannot set the shutter speed or the aperture. However, you can influence it. For example, if you want a higher speed to take action shots, then you have to go to the manual mode and change the ISO setting of 50 (default) to a higher setting. A higher ISO setting will increase the shutter speed, but will make you image more grainy, or noise. I would go to ISO 100 or 200 at the most.

This is not very right! You can change shutter speed.... you can find the Long shutter speed when the camera is set in Manual Mode.....

khs8
9th of April 2003 (Wed), 14:10
Samhain:

I am talking about not able to control the shutter speed, i.e, set it to 1/200, or 1/150, etc. Setting it to "long shutter speed" is limited control as I said in my earlier post. How long is the "long shutter speed", it is still not controllable.

tking
14th of April 2003 (Mon), 03:40
khs8 wrote:
Samhain:

I am talking about not able to control the shutter speed, i.e, set it to 1/200, or 1/150, etc. Setting it to "long shutter speed" is limited control as I said in my earlier post. How long is the "long shutter speed", it is still not controllable.


Shutter speed in S230 is CONTROLLABLE~
& Cyberus u should set the camera to manual mode first(auto mode doesn't support long shutter speed)

1. set to the manual mode: Set->choose manual(should be the 2nd one, icon has an M), than leave set screen

2. Menu-> Long Shutter(very bottom)-> on, than jump out menu screen

3. Press WB(Erase), should shows the +/- (Exp.) bar, on the right side of the bar, there should be a small box with a number and ", for ex: 1", that is shutter speed, means 1 sec. Press Up or Down and adjust shutter speed~ up to 15sec

Cyberus
14th of April 2003 (Mon), 08:57
Thanks tking,
that was EXACTLY the kind of answer I was looking for!!!

khs8
14th of April 2003 (Mon), 09:46
tking:

I still do not see how you can set speed, e.g to 1/100 sec. Sure you can set the long speed from 1" to 15" etc., but for normal picture taking, this camera does not allow control of speed directly, although you can influence the speed by manipulating the iso setting. Other cameras like the s45 do have speed and aperture control.

juukeli
15th of April 2003 (Tue), 12:20
If you use exposure lock, you can choose shutter speed by moving the exposure compansation slider. The shutter speed is different when using different ISO -settings. (ISO 400 -> shortest shutter speeds -> more noise / ISO 50 -> longest shutter speeds -> less noise). Experiment.

khs8
15th of April 2003 (Tue), 13:43
That is exactly what I mean that you cannot control it, but can influence it with the iso settings. This kind of "influence" is different than those cameras (such as the G seires AND MAYBE the s45 and A70) with shutter speed priority and aperture priority that you can set the speed directly and the iso directly (but separately) and the camera will adjust the aperture to make the correct exposure. The s230 or the s400 does not have shutter speed or aperture priority that you can direcly control them.

tking
15th of April 2003 (Tue), 19:32
khs8 wrote:
That is exactly what I mean that you cannot control it, but can influence it with the iso settings. This kind of "influence" is different than those cameras (such as the G seires AND MAYBE the s45 and A70) with shutter speed priority and aperture priority that you can set the speed directly and the iso directly (but separately) and the camera will adjust the aperture to make the correct exposure. The s230 or the s400 does not have shutter speed or aperture priority that you can direcly control them.

Sorry~ i misunderstood your point before~

yea, instead shutter speed is controlable, i should say "you can set the long shutter speed"

i know cyberus is looking for this long shutter speed function, and i thought you'r telling him that s230 doesn't have long shutter speed settings~

sorry again

to cyberus: glad that it helps ^^

khs8
15th of April 2003 (Tue), 19:39
no problemo! Misunderstandings happen all the time.

El Nino
14th of May 2003 (Wed), 12:34
So... How to shoot a moving object? I'm not see the shutter speed changes when I used ISO 50 or ISO 200 (still 1/5). The shutter speed will change depends lighting.

juukeli
15th of May 2003 (Thu), 05:55
You can use the AE lock to lock the shutter speed. When you lock it in bright light, the shutter speed is fast. Then all the pictures you take after locking AE, will use the same shutter speed. The pictures will be under exposed when taking the camera to a low light with these settings. Ixus doesn't know how to handle this kind of situation because the lack of manual aperture size setting.

But you can edit levels in photoshop or some other image editing software. Dard shades are pretty easy to improve. At least you can make the fast movement freeze in lower light.