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tharmsen
19th of October 2010 (Tue), 12:44
I bought a G12 last night to replace my G11. I thought I would share my initial thoughts.

http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/1054754245_eFSNn-L.jpg

The first thing I noticed was that the G12 had a slightly rougher texture to it whereas the G11 felt more "slick". Aside from this minor change, the feel of the two cameras is identical.

I also notice a few minor ergonomic changes such as rounded corners and a new thumb rest for the shooting hand, which I find particularly useful after using it. There is also a small pictogram change on the delete button. The G12 is on the left, and the G11 is on the right.

http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/1054949339_PSvhf-L.jpg

One of the more useful functional changes is the ability to make 1/3 stop settings to ISO now. You can see the changes to the top dial that reflect the new 1/3 stop increments. You can also see, if you look closely, the stereo mics for shooting HD video (on either side of the hotshoe). I'm assuming that's what these are anyway.

http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/1054957545_8ABWM-L.jpg

The G12 has some cool new features such as the artificial horizon to make sure you're shots aren't cock-eyed and also a new HDR capability. The HDR system works reasonably well, it's not over done however it does require the use of a tripod since the 3 shots that it takes are relatively slow which makes doing it handheld nearly impossible.

The video is nice although once again we're not able to focus in realtime while shooting the video. You must first lock focus then start shooting. If you zoom (yes, you can zoom) or if the subject moves, it will go out of focus. Nikon seems to have figured out how to do AF in video with their P7000, so why Canon is playing tail-end Sally on this one I'm not sure.

The image quality is identical to the G11. The shutter lag, start-up time, etc. are all identical to the G11.

The new wheel on the front of the case is probably the most useful for me. I really like being able to adjust Av and Tv independently without having to use a button to reassign the task to a single thumb wheel. It speeds up those critical adjustments when shooting in a non-auto mode.

Is it worth the cost of upgrading? Honestly, it probably isn't. I loved my G11 and I still love my G12. It's a little easier to use and it adds some cool new features... plus the video being kind of flaky isn't much of an issue for me. I don't do a whole lot of video shooting anyway.

Riveredger
19th of October 2010 (Tue), 15:21
Thanks - good review

John Baker
19th of October 2010 (Tue), 15:22
Good review and useful...

mpix345
19th of October 2010 (Tue), 15:34
Thanks tharmsen, good review. Can you compare the back buttons specifically? I had a G11 and always struggled with accidentally changing settings. While the thumb rest area looks good on the G12, I kind of doubt it would help with the base of my thumb/hand mashing those buttons. What do you think?

Thanks.

tharmsen
19th of October 2010 (Tue), 15:39
Mpix,

If you had a problem with the G11 you'll likely have the same problem with the G12. I don't have much of a problem with my fingers mashing buttons while shooting in landscape mode, but every time I shoot in portrait mode I mash a bunch of buttons. The thumb rest does seem to make things more natural feeling. You wouldn't think it makes much of a difference but honestly, I REALLY like it. The camera just seems to set better in my hand... but I will admit, this could be a placebo effect. :)

Here's something I noticed about my G12.

The G12 doesn't like non-Canon accessories on the hotshoe it would seem. Watch this short video I just shot that documents the issue. I'm sorry for the dark video. I'm a photographer, not a videographer. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt9KTz7Y6Lc

mpix345
19th of October 2010 (Tue), 16:12
Thanks for addressing that for me. I don't doubt that you are correct.

Looks like I'll give the Samsung TL500 a whirl...

2mnycars
19th of October 2010 (Tue), 21:13
Thanks for your review.
I've not enjoyed my G11 as much as my G9.
Part of it is clumsiness, and my ability to send the camera off to never-never land witha single poking thumb.
Truly appreciate your side-by-side photos so I can see it for myself.

Best,

Edit: Just returned from a jaunt to Quebec City. My G11 was my sole camera (my dslr came along; took about 3 shots.) Took many with my G11 and enjoyed the experience.
My Pany ZS3 has been in the shop for a thorough cleaning. (dust bunnies within.)
My wife shot with her ZS3. We had a chance to compare images. I liked mine! Of course the lens is not as wide, nor is it as long.

G11 was a good choice.

kezug
19th of October 2010 (Tue), 21:14
Thanks for the review....fellow Hoosier!

I love my G11, but find that rear wheel not being very responsive when using...especially when trying to dial in a "Scene"...is the wheel the same or is it more responsive?

tharmsen
20th of October 2010 (Wed), 16:24
I've not had a problem with the rear dial not being responsive on either my G11 or G12. It might just be your copy.

billythek
20th of October 2010 (Wed), 22:35
Hmmmm, I did actually run into a problem using the rear wheel for something. I hesistate to even mention it because the details are a little fuzzy in my mind. I remember trying to make some adjustment, and turning the wheel would occasionally not advance whatever it was I was trying to adjust.

I know that sounds weak, and I'll need to play with it some more to recreate the problem. But I do definitely remember an issue with the wheel. I also remember accidentally activating the menu button while fumbling with the wheel. Perhaps that will go away with practice, though.

kezug
25th of October 2010 (Mon), 19:09
I had a chance to play around with the G12 while at Best Buy the other day. I have to say, I really like the front dial and the new menu displays showing you how to change the settings with both the front and rear dials.

The camera felt lighter to me..is it?

Also, one thing I noticed, but have not ready anywhere, is the tilt-shift lens feature while shooting video. Have you tried it? Could you post a video of you trying it? :)

Nathan
26th of October 2010 (Tue), 00:28
It has digital zoom, not optical zoom, during filming in video mode. Because it is digitally zooming, shouldn't focus be maintained?