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mpkirby
1st of October 2001 (Mon), 07:35
http://www.fototime.com/10BCF18D86CE8E0/standard.jpg


God knows I have offered enough comments, and not provided any of my own work. (often because I thought it wasn't good enough). I figured the fear was all in my head, so..

This picture was taken at my son's first piano recital. This was the look on his face as he finished his first song. The piano recital was held at a local nursing home, and he invited his 2nd grade teacher. That's who he's looking for as he turns around.

It was taken with a Canon 420ex flash, and a g1.


Shooting Date/Time 9/23/2001 2:07:52 PM
Shooting Mode Shutter Speed Priority AE
Tv (Shutter Speed) 1/200
Av (Aperture Value) 2.5
Metering Mode Center-weighted averaging
Exposure Compensation -2/3
ISO Speed 50
Lens 7.0 - 21.0 mm
Focal Length 21.0 mm
Image Size 2048 x 1536
Image Quality RAW
Flash On (420 ex)
Flash Type External E-TTL
Flash Exposure Compensation -2/3
White Balance Auto
Parameters
Contrast Low
Sharpness Low
Color Saturation High
File Size 2231 KB




Some criticism:

1) I don't think the white-point is 100% correct. I have to say that is my biggest problem in dealing with the G1. Getting the white-point to where I want it to be. Note the banisters. I think they have a bit more pink in them than in real-life.


An interesting point (now that I see the specs), is that apparently I took this in shutter-priority mode. I have a tendacy to accidentally move off of the shooting mode when I switch between shooting & preview modes (usually when the kids swarm around me wanting to see the pictures I just took). I can't recall if I did this accidentally, or on purpose.

What type of situations do people use TV mode for? With a fill-flash, the aperture wasn't really that important -- the flash will compensate for any missed light within the shutter time. So I suppose in this environment Tv makes sense (perhaps I was actually thinking it through...).

Mike

beach512
2nd of October 2001 (Tue), 17:48
Nice shot! I love how you captured that moment and the expression on your sons' face is great! We all can relate to that.
It is nice to see a "real life" moment shot. We can only shoot so many pictures of flowers, fire hydrants, dragonflies, buildings at night, etc. before we all cry ENOUGH!!
Thanks for sharing this! Hope to see more soon.

Dave

mpkirby
2nd of October 2001 (Tue), 18:52
Thanks,

I think that unless I am able to capture an "ansel adams" moment, most of my outdoor shots are pretty lacking. I don't go very many interesting places.

I find taking action shots with the G1 to be very challenging. I recently shot a volleyball game at our company picnic. That was quite challenging. I found that if I dropped from raw, to jpeg, and used continous shoot mode, and just "followed the ball" I got quite a few good shots.

Mike

Don Ellis
3rd of October 2001 (Wed), 01:41
Lovely photo -- much better than a fire hydrant.

I would like to make a couple of small suggestions:

Sharpening: I used 80%, 0.4, 0 in Photoshop and it enhanced the photo (for my eyes).

Cropping: I seem to spend most of my enhancing time on cropping photos. Since you've got such a good photo to work with, you might try cropping just a bit off the left -- either cut the leftmost banister in half vertically to act as a border, or go farther right and cut the next one in half. Tends to focus on your son more and gives you a definite edge to the photo (less noise). On the top, try trimming it down a bit to eliminate that rightmost white space above the piano. Again, it's one less distration from your main subject.

Whether you try the suggestions or not, it's a great photo.

kd6lor
3rd of October 2001 (Wed), 22:25
Great picture Mike, please let me know how you set your flash. Bounce? Card?

Criticism... None realy. Great pic you should be proud of it as well as your handsome son. If it were my shot, the only thing I would do is get rid of flash reflection on handrail a few inches behind his right ear and possibly tone down the color on the red button under the piano. Both things draw my eye away from the subject.

Paul

mpkirby
4th of October 2001 (Thu), 05:30
Good feedback all of you. I'm going to re-crop and adopt some of the suggestions. I'm also going to try applying a sharpening filter using an edge selection mask. The theory being if we sharpen the edges, and not the smooth areas, the picture looks better. Its not that this picture really needs it (not much noise), but I've been itching to learn the technique, and when you have a hammer, everything is a nail.

I'll post the results later today.

Mike

mpkirby
6th of October 2001 (Sat), 14:20
Here are the results of the different cropping and sharpening. The sharpening was a pain in the patush. I created an edge mask layer, gausian blurred it, loaded it into a selection, inverted the selection, and then sharpened using 80 .4 0. I also applied a despeckle with the inverse of the edge selection.

Overall, I like the results. Let me know what you think. If people are interested, I can post the detailed step/by/step for the photoshop process. This image doesn't really have much noise. I should do this with another picture that has lots of noise.

There are some noticeable differences.

1) Color is different. Unfortunately my memory doesn't let me recall the exact color of the original shot. There is more yellow in the first version, more red in the second.

2) The first one looks "oversharpened" now that I look at the second one. Perhaps I should have turned up the sharpening a bit in the second picture.

http://www.fototime.com/EC2E59AC6B26F8A/standard.jpg

Mike

mpkirby
6th of October 2001 (Sat), 14:32
kd6lor wrote:
Great picture Mike, please let me know how you set your flash. Bounce? Card?

Criticism... None realy. Great pic you should be proud of it as well as your handsome son. If it were my shot, the only thing I would do is get rid of flash reflection on handrail a few inches behind his right ear and possibly tone down the color on the red button under the piano. Both things draw my eye away from the subject.

Paul




I took the suggestions. (let me know how it looks).

Also, this was an old victorian building (formerly a house, now a "home"). Nice high ceilings, but not too high. Great for bouncing flashes off of them. I used no other lighting.

Mike

kd6lor
6th of October 2001 (Sat), 15:52
I like the color tone of the original, but the new one is good too. The flash bounce off of the hand rail is not distracting, and the red button is muted. I am flattered that you made the changes. I liked the original crop, but you have tightened the subject nicely in the new one.

When you crop, do you keep the H*W ratio specific to a printing application, or do you crop for subject only. I wonder because I am about to print a photo and the frame I am going to place the pic in is about to help me crop...

PJ

BTW, I wouldn't mind a photoshop tutorial on your techniques. I have been snapping pics for a long time, but photoshop is pretty new to me.

PJ